Should Reserve Teams be allowed in Capital Premier

Should Reserve Teams be allowed in Capital Premier

well?

the reason behind this is that it is one solution to the Central Lge teams regrading into Prem or Cap1 that we get.

banish them I say.

why not go further - one team per club.

i think this dropping of players has gone too far now and clubs are exploiting the rule. . . but fair on them, they are simply following the rules Mapple2008-08-27 09:23:17

No. Makes the Premier League look much less credible.

No, it increases the player gap between clubs. If they were banned better players would flock to the 2nd tier Wellington teams like Naenae, North Wellington, Marist and BNU.

I agree with Opax

Out of curiosity, is the suggestion making a specific grade like the old "Reserve Grade" or just forcing them down into lower divisions? 

Yes, but with changed rules to limit stacking which should fix the problem. It's the stacking thats the issue, not the fact there are second teams present. Without stacking most wouldn't be promoted/not relegated so it shouldn't be an issue

is this a problem thats just come about this year - or has it just been enhanced by these forums by people being able to voice their concerns openly. i voted no because i hate teams that are actually crap become good for 5 weeks and then next year rolls around and they are crap again. i hate western suburbs also.

I don't remember it being such an issue last year. I suppose it depends on the position of (mainly) the CL first and second teams when there are only a few weeks to go
wulfsteam2008-08-27 10:37:40

I think it's growing each season.  Certainly (as Bob says) having a focal point to voice frustrations means it is more noticeable, but more and more clubs are getting second sides promoted so the issue is growing.

Isn't it Lower Hutt, the 'mar and now Olympic (possibly) in three seasons ?

HN is right - its getting worse and becoming more of an issue as more reserve team sides get promoted into CP. Its half way towards being a reserve team league anyway now.

bobboltontawa22008-08-27 11:30:09

Somewhat disturbingly he has a point.

Bit late to this whole thing. Where do things stand? Can a reserve team play in Capital Prem?

dairyflat2008-08-27 12:29:13

I cannot see any point in dropping players  from CL its a joke

 

and conversely those that want the status-quo are 15yr old kids who get to play Prem for half a season before the big boys boot them out to save their ass

Because there is no one aged in the second team squads in the Cap Prem... Burt, Thommo, Batty, anyone ?

So you can't read English either ?

Im beginning to think you are one of the 15yr olds i referred to..

i know of a 1st team tht has dropped 3 players every week for 3 weeks therefore  their almost complete first team- 9players in total

NO you will get teams throwing games

What club is this?

On the topic at hand. If a club has enough depth to allow their seconds to compete in champs premier than why not?

The debate should be rather, should teams be allowed to drop their players to lower grades to help them out.

To this i say yes. If a club has the resources to do so then i am all for it. Sure it brings up injustice and fairness and whatnot, but if theres no concrete evidence that it causes some sort of detriment to the clubs at hand, i see no reason why not.

Yes and im not an idiot, isee the other side of things like...'what about the clubs first teams that are shafted due to larger clubs dropping players into their seconds.'

But again, if you can, im for it. If i was in the other clubs position i would probably be against it, so..hmm.

The trouble is (and I think is the point people are trying to make) is that many of thse sides don't have enough depth.  If there is that much depth for a strong second side there should be no need to drop players, but everyone is.

I have no problems with second teams making it to whatever level, I just think there should be rules against them surviving by regrading players.  If they have the depth then they should be forced to prove it.

The Cap 1 Promo game shouldn't be played by two Central league sides, it proves absolutely nothing about the clubs relative depths or the teams ability to play in the higher division the following season.
Hard News2008-08-27 14:48:56

 

Coming from the Wellu U point of view (and we got the full force of 6 Olympic 1st teamers against our rezzies last week) its a pity that clubs are so happy to enter CL with all its extra costs and resources, then as soon as they are out of contention in CL they drop players down. CL for all its warts is the flagship winter competition and not putting out your strongest side detracts from its integrity. For example, Napier played a below strength Olympic team in CL last weekend and thumped them 6-1. Is that  a result to be proud of for either club? Having said all that if our rezzies were going for promo we would drop players too if only because everyone else is doing it.  

A friend in Auckland emailed this for our reading pleasure...

yourmomma2008-08-27 16:38:23

This is one of the reasons i think they should look seriously at a finals/play off system in CL - to keep all the CL teams interested right to the end of the season and to add a climax, focal point for our premier club comp.