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Should Rsv teams be allowed to play Sun

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Should Rsv teams be allowed to play Sun

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ok so why do I see the Wests Resie team are playing their home games on Sunday again?
Good job we wasted our breath speaking for an hour on this topic at the year end CF meeting.
Disappointed at CFs inabilty to make a call on this. We all agreed that first and second teams should play on the same day unless there was a real reason for it. Im sure Wests have a really crap reason, but whatever it is, they should play on saturday LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Fair call Feverish! Can anyone from Wests enlighten us as to what poor excuse was given to Capital Footy? There is a reason firsts and seconds play on the same day!

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Feverish wrote:
ok so why do I see the Wests Resie team are playing their home games on Sunday again?
Good job we wasted our breath speaking for an hour on this topic at the year end CF meeting.
Disappointed at CFs inabilty to make a call on this. We all agreed that first and second teams should play on the same day unless there was a real reason for it. Im sure Wests have a really crap reason, but whatever it is, they should play on saturday LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
 
It means they can open their bar both days Feverish, surely a reason you would agree with .
 
 

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nightz wrote:
Feverish wrote:
ok so why do I see the Wests Resie team are playing their home games on Sunday again?
Good job we wasted our breath speaking for an hour on this topic at the year end CF meeting.
Disappointed at CFs inabilty to make a call on this. We all agreed that first and second teams should play on the same day unless there was a real reason for it. Im sure Wests have a really crap reason, but whatever it is, they should play on saturday LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
 
It means they can open their bar both days Feverish, surely a reason you would agree with .
 
 
didnt know western suburbs had ever opened their bar?
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe thats because you wouldnt be welcome there BBtawa

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nightz wrote:
Maybe thats because you wouldnt be welcome there BBtawa
 
 
im sure i wouldnt be if it was opened
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Why is it that CF Rules and Regulations seem to be enforced in some cases, and are only optional in others, depending on who is involved....

I posted this in the Capital Football thread on 5th April

Crazy-Horse wrote:
What hold does Wellington College have over Capital Football?

We have an agreement that all junior football under 14th grade will be the responsibility of the clubs, 15th and over be left in the hands of Colleges and College Sport.  However, Wellington College have always played in Capital Football leagues from about 14th grade, and this has continued for them as a 'special case'.

Yesterday my son's team played Wellington College in 14th Grade Promo, and at the end of a great game, the score was a 3-2 win.  However, the draw was that we were supposed to play Karori. 

It appears that we now have 3 teams from Wellington College of the 19 teams featuring in the top two CF 14th Grades. 

The impression I got when I spoke to parents and supporters of the 'College' team was that they had no idea they were supposed to be a Karori team.  They wore college strip, had jackets and bags with college labeling, and all the parents were cheering 'Go College'.

The team names have been updated since the draw was done, so the results now read
14th Grade JPL Wellington College
14th Grade Promo- Wellington College Gold
14th Grade Promo Karori/Wellington College so this has apparently been done with the agreement of Capital Football. 

Over the years, I have been at meetings where larger junior clubs have requested a change to the rules so that they can put more than two teams in JPL/Promo leagues, and this has always been voted down by the clubs.  One time it was being discussed it was suggested (tongue in cheek) that Upper Hutt should badge some of their team Tararua and others Upper Hutt, to remain within the regulations.  This was laughed off as  not being within the spirit of the leagues.  Well how come Wellington College are allowed to do it?



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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
feverish you really have no idea
play all lower teams on saturday then sunday is for the big match which allows social members the opportunity to support the clubs flagship team encourages spectator support
great idea
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bobmorton wrote:
feverish you really have no idea
play all lower teams on saturday then sunday is for the big match which allows social members the opportunity to support the clubs flagship team encourages spectator support
great idea
 
interesting call - but since when has Wests reserve team been their flagship team? please go and crawl under a rock

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
lol feverish, too right, why should they get special treatment over everyone else? perhaps we should move the rest of the season for everyone to sunday games!
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm told there's nothing to stop other clubs playing their Reserve teams on Sundays.  Is this fact?

If it is then this is really a non-argument.

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Smithy wrote:
I'm told there's nothing to stop other clubs playing their Reserve teams on Sundays.  Is this fact?

If it is then this is really a non-argument.
 
why is it a non argument?

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agree with you Smithy.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
But should clubs have to go through the hassle of playing their ressies on a Sunday to ensure a even playing field?
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You've missed the point Smiff

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Fair point you make 2ndBest.  I hadn't thought of it like that.

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2ndBest wrote:
But should clubs have to go through the hassle of playing their ressies on a Sunday to ensure a even playing field?
 
Dont they appreciate the opportunity to support their 1sts (or other teams) on the Saturday?

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They have the opportunity on home games.  Big ask for them to make away games in Wellington.

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2ndBest wrote:

They have the opportunity on home games.  Big ask for them to make away games in Wellington.

What, I dont understand what you are on about there 2ndBest?
 
If for example Miramar 2nds are playing Wests 2nds on the Sunday how can it be a big ask for them to support their 1sts on the Saturday?

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sorry didn't make my point very clear.  I'll try again.
 
When first teams play at home, CF generally schedule the 2nd team game to play beforehand (although not always possible).  It is a lot easier (for both teams) to go and watch each other if they are playing at the same pitch just hours apart. ie. the first team can turn up an hour early to watch the second team, while the second team can hang round after to watch the first team. 
 
I would argue it is harder for both teams to turn up and watch each other (and thus take out two afternoons instead of one afternoon).
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I understand what you are saying 2nd best and would agree with you if CF did actually schedule the games that way.
 
Check tomorrows draw as an example. Mar V LH 1st and 2nds both playing tomorrow but at different places.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
and at the same time.  That is quite silly.
 
on the otherhand...both petone and wgtn united have thier 2nds playing beforehand.
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On the Mar Lower hutt first and ressies playing same day different days i dont have a problem with that. Clubs have to pick their sides carefully. It really means the second teams playing in prem have got to have depth, or suffer. i hope that wests dont drop 'first teamers' to stay up.
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one_eyed_nik wrote:
i hope that wests dont drop 'first teamers' to stay up.


Lols.

I'm sure they wouldn't dream of it.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
will be interesting this week, wests 1sts play sat against diamonds and the 2nds (who have been caned so far) play at home on sunday vs ibay.  The first weekend when the teams had their sat sun combo...  are they desperste yet? will find out this weekend...
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
They could have this weekend with the firsts playing Friday, but would be a big call when you had to back up Monday.

Friday's reserve bench of Charlize and the two Chileans will make them a pretty frightening attacking force.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
it makes it a lottery what team you are gonna get depending on the draw

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Crazy-Horse wrote:
Why is it that CF Rules and Regulations seem to be enforced in some cases, and are only optional in others, depending on who is involved....





One women's team didn't use a player last season because of the CF rule on player age.
One women's team played several players, who breached this rule, every match.



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nightz wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
But should clubs have to go through the hassle of playing their ressies on a Sunday to ensure a even playing field?
 
Dont they appreciate the opportunity to support their 1sts (or other teams) on the Saturday?
 
Nightz, why do you pretend not to understand the issue?  This is something that's been raised over and over, and it relates to players turning up for 2 different sides in 2 different grades in a weekend.  It distorts the Capital Premier League. 
 
Clearly at this point in the season Wests don't have enough players to make up two quality sides, but they are able to keep their team in Capital Premier through the split days/games.  It's quite clear, stop fudging the issue, and actually address the complaint.  If you don't think this is an issue then explain why not.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
James, check the rules before opening ya gop.

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's gob.

I don't think anyone is saying it's against the rules, just frustrated about the rules allowing it.

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Hard News wrote:
It's gob.

I don't think anyone is saying it's against the rules, just frustrated about the rules allowing it.
 
we've already told Nightz twelve times. It just goes in one ear and out the other

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Maybe ur explaining it too complex for him still

Baby it down a little 
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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
feverish i am duly humbled
quite right i didn,t realise it was their reserve team  i agree with you thats crap- so reverse my comment you do have an idea
however as a general rule social teams and reserve teams should play on sat-first teams on sunday 
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Maybe I am being a bit thick, but I don't see the problem with what Wests do.  If every club is allowed to play their reserves and first team on different days, then perhaps it is a situation of people thinking that it is unfair that one club is doing it when they are too selfish to give up a night on the piss to do it themselves. 
 
Why should Wests be punished for taking their football seriously?

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think the point isn't that they are taking it seriously, it's that they are basically bolstering their squad the next day with first team players. Thus it's not really a reserve team
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Frankie Mac wrote:
Maybe I am being a bit thick, but I don't see the problem with what Wests do.  If every club is allowed to play their reserves and first team on different days, then perhaps it is a situation of people thinking that it is unfair that one club is doing it when they are too selfish to give up a night on the piss to do it themselves. 
 
Why should Wests be punished for taking their football seriously?
 
I ran this argument for a long time.
 
There is a valid counterpoint though...
 

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thelastnomad wrote:
I think the point isn't that they are taking it seriously, it's that they are basically bolstering their squad the next day with first team players. Thus it's not really a reserve team
 
but if other clubs can do it, where is the problem?  If they have a bunch of players that put playing 2 games a weekend ahead of getting on the piss, why should they be vilified on here?

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almost 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
2ndBest wrote:
But should clubs have to go through the hassle of playing their ressies on a Sunday to ensure a even playing field?
 
This is the valid counter argument.
 
The rules are allowing an unfair situation to exist.
 
Couple that with the fact that the clubs expressed (at a meeting earlier in the year) an intention not to allow it this year and you can understand clubs' frustrations.
 
 

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