Has anyone heard that Capital Football are planing to play some grades on Sundays next season? Is this correct or just another rumour? Would you be keen to play Sundays rather than Saturdays?
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news to me. Sunday games are a waste of time. Grounds are all closed and wimmins gets cancelled.
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My thoughts are similar, if a ground is unplayable on Saturday chances are you cant play on it the following day.
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Seems logical, but in practice it could just mean more players like me hanging around trying to play for another side on a sunday. Div 16 on Sat, Masters on SUnday
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nightz is (and this sickens me to say this) right.
Do people really think pitches will be better in 24 hours ? Wimmins games get canned now, how will adding another 20 games to Sunday schedules make anything any better ?
I know it is to look like something is being done to help with the backlog, and the fact teams have had to be turned away this year but it needs a more 'grand design' solution.
Floodlit games at 18:00 on a set of 4 turf pitches at Fraser and/or Martin Luckie anyone ?
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Do people really think pitches will be better in 24 hours ? Wimmins games get canned now, how will adding another 20 games to Sunday schedules make anything any better ?
I know it is to look like something is being done to help with the backlog, and the fact teams have had to be turned away this year but it needs a more 'grand design' solution.
Floodlit games at 18:00 on a set of 4 turf pitches at Fraser and/or Martin Luckie anyone ?
Hard News2009-07-16 14:56:53
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nightz is (and this sickens me to say this) right.
Do people really think pitches will be better in 24 hours ? Wimmins games get canned now, how will adding another 20 games to Sunday schedules make anything any better ?
I know it is to look like something is being done to help with the backlog, and the fact teams have had to be turned away this year but it needs a more 'grand design' solution.
Floodlit games at 18:00 on a set of 4 turf pitches at Fraser and/or Martin Luckie anyone ?
Do people really think pitches will be better in 24 hours ? Wimmins games get canned now, how will adding another 20 games to Sunday schedules make anything any better ?
I know it is to look like something is being done to help with the backlog, and the fact teams have had to be turned away this year but it needs a more 'grand design' solution.
Floodlit games at 18:00 on a set of 4 turf pitches at Fraser and/or Martin Luckie anyone ?
I for one would be happy to play at that time or even midweek. 4 pitches would be great each div could rotate for midweek slot and play at same time. Give each div a chance to socialise to!!!
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I could see a few mid week defaults in the lower divs...player numbers could be very tight.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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I could see a few mid week defaults in the lower divs...player numbers could be very tight.
Why?
Given the amount of people that work weekends shift work etc if each div knew they were due a mid week match im sure most sides would get a team together. Otherwise why would councils build artifical turf if they didn't get used 7 days a week. PCC artifical hockey turf has games or practices on it from 1200 to 2100 during the week, and from 0800 to 1900 on weekends. surely if we want football turf/s we need to make the same use of them!!
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personally I don't see playing a mid week game as workable, I know verfew of my team would be able to make it due to other commitments, I'd imagine that many teams would be in a similar position.
Queenslander 3x a year.
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If the div i was playing in was say permanantly on a Monday at 6.30 on artifical turf you'd be gauranteed to play so organising rest of family, work, etc wouldn't be a biggy. In fact family would probably prefer it (plenty of job's put off due to footy on the weekends).
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What would be more workable is to set up an additional midweek competition for those that are available, and willing to play then. It isn't practical to make Saturday comps play midweek - the defaults would be massive.
Although if there was a move to create additional 'social' comps midweek then that may take some of the current weekend overload - acknowledge that some would be keen to play both... the competetive grades would still train midweek so, theoristically, those players wouldn't be affected.
They do that very effectively in Brissy, though admittedly there isn't the same weather/ground issues we have here.
Great idea, though would work a lot better in summer
Although if there was a move to create additional 'social' comps midweek then that may take some of the current weekend overload - acknowledge that some would be keen to play both... the competetive grades would still train midweek so, theoristically, those players wouldn't be affected.
They do that very effectively in Brissy, though admittedly there isn't the same weather/ground issues we have here.
Great idea, though would work a lot better in summer

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What would be more workable is to set up an additional midweek competition for those that are available, and willing to play then. It isn't practical to make Saturday comps play midweek - the defaults would be massive.
Although if there was a move to create additional 'social' comps midweek then that may take some of the current weekend overload - acknowledge that some would be keen to play both... the competetive grades would still train midweek so, theoristically, those players wouldn't be affected.
They do that very effectively in Brissy, though admittedly there isn't the same weather/ground issues we have here.
Great idea, though would work a lot better in summer
Although if there was a move to create additional 'social' comps midweek then that may take some of the current weekend overload - acknowledge that some would be keen to play both... the competetive grades would still train midweek so, theoristically, those players wouldn't be affected.
They do that very effectively in Brissy, though admittedly there isn't the same weather/ground issues we have here.
Great idea, though would work a lot better in summer

Summer leagues would be intersting! pitches would be difficult given most become cricket or softball grounds.
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What would be more workable is to set up an additional midweek competition for those that are available, and willing to play then. It isn't practical to make Saturday comps play midweek - the defaults would be massive.Although if there was a move to create additional 'social' comps midweek then that may take some of the current weekend overload - acknowledge that some would be keen to play both... the competetive grades would still train midweek so, theoristically, those players wouldn't be affected.They do that very effectively in Brissy, though admittedly there isn't the same weather/ground issues we have here. Great idea, though would work a lot better in summer 

So we're struggling to complete the competitions we have at the moment, and you are saying we need to start another one? I can't understand that.
I can't see defaults for midweek games being a big problem, a good number of players who play on weekends play in various indoor competitions around town (some in more than one), so clearly there's a lot of people ken to play footy during the week, at least in the first couple of months of the season.
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So we're struggling to complete the competitions we have at the moment, and you are saying we need to start another one? I can't understand that.
I can't see defaults for midweek games being a big problem, a good number of players who play on weekends play in various indoor competitions around town (some in more than one), so clearly there's a lot of people ken to play footy during the week, at least in the first couple of months of the season.
I can't see defaults for midweek games being a big problem, a good number of players who play on weekends play in various indoor competitions around town (some in more than one), so clearly there's a lot of people ken to play footy during the week, at least in the first couple of months of the season.
You're assuming people would play both/all competitions El G... I'm not. Sure, there'll be many that do but by no means all. And there would likely be a drift of some weekend players in the lower grades to play midweek instead of - not as well as.
Anyway - just a thought... I don't propose to have all the answers, far from actually. Does anybody?
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I actually think there's been a trend for more people to play and more regularly (both weekends and indoor comps during the week). Remember clubs had to turn new teams away this year, so there's a healthy interest out there. That's why I think adding another competition may end up just compounding problems rather than solving them, even if some people do opt to play in either one or the other.
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4 pitch floodlit set up at Fraser, 4 pitch floodlit set up at Martin Luckie.
- Bar and kitchen on site so teams can all stay and help fund things with a lager after matches (before heading home to clubs if need be), and a - unfortunately - more user pays attitude to paying for them.
Games played at all times, days, evenings, spring, summer, whenever.
The key though is someone needs to take the bull by the horns and make it happen. No relying on funding from trusts, no reliance on the councils long term (except maybe as an initial investor), no relying on club politics. no relying on Capital Football.
I love my club and I accept this isn't going to do a lot for the 'clubiness' of local football, but it could help development of younger players, the angst and whining of older players, and the game to expand to the level it should be at.
- Bar and kitchen on site so teams can all stay and help fund things with a lager after matches (before heading home to clubs if need be), and a - unfortunately - more user pays attitude to paying for them.
Games played at all times, days, evenings, spring, summer, whenever.
The key though is someone needs to take the bull by the horns and make it happen. No relying on funding from trusts, no reliance on the councils long term (except maybe as an initial investor), no relying on club politics. no relying on Capital Football.
I love my club and I accept this isn't going to do a lot for the 'clubiness' of local football, but it could help development of younger players, the angst and whining of older players, and the game to expand to the level it should be at.
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So where's the $10 mil gonna come from?
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long term (except maybe as an initial investor)
They build it, the Fever operate it and we repay them.
Could even use banks, but the council should have more interest in doing it and a reasonable return on investment as it is work they should be doing anyway.
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that turf being built at Newtown is Rugby World Cup driven apparently. Arse
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No, no, no... Mr. Morrison assured us it was the council's committment to football.
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Perhaps the councils (esp WCC) should just admit that the grounds have been poorly laid, have no drainage and are maintained by idiots.
NZ does not have weather worse than lots of places round the world, but the grounds here seem unable to remain open. Tank some responsibility council & sort them out - why do we accept thsi!!!
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As an aside, I read an article in LG (Local Government) magazine last winter that stated that if a ground was closed for more than 3 games per season, then it was pooly built and / or maintained.
yet this season the council is still rolling out the same excuses - "Its wet." "Its not windy enough"
Its f*cking winter you useless bunch of ****s - what do you expect? Sort it out!
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I'd love an idea of how much football Canterbury and/or Otago lose each year.
Do they have more pitches, less players, or are they just better made.
Do they have more pitches, less players, or are they just better made.
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I know that Hackney marshes near London have about 30+ pitches which all have 3 or more games a day on them.
All season.
Yes they become mudbaths, but games get played...
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I'd love an idea of how much football Canterbury and/or Otago lose each year.
Do they have more pitches, less players, or are they just better made.
Do they have more pitches, less players, or are they just better made.
Can't speak for Chch but Dunedin doesn't lose anywhere near as many games as Wellington by the sounds. I'm no meteorologist but am pretty sure that Wellington gets a lot more rain than either Dunedin or Christchurch which may be your problem.
The grounds in Dunedin generally hold up pretty well during winter but we are starting to get pressure on ground usage as playing numbers grow.
One of the potential ways to get around this that was put forward was looking at playing some grades (e.g. masters) over summer - can't see it happening.
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