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The worst thing you have seen in football?

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Toffeeman wrote:

Playing for Petone reserves at Farrington Field (then Centennial Park) and our full back got in  a pushing match with the Wgtn Coll (playing as Miramar ressies) winger. Our full back pushed him to the ground and proceded to punch the crap out of him. Prob got in a dozen good hits. This was just outside my pen box and the opposition keeper was in there with his gloves off before me. No comment on who that keeper was but it was before his pink shirt days. Our full back was suspended for 4 games by CF but the club banned him for the rest of the season. Never saw him again at the club.

 
That was a belter of a game and a good bit of biffo too!i believe your guy picked on our smallest player and the reff let the game play on! i got suspended for a week or two for that aswell
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pavlos8 wrote:
The worst thing iv seen is probably when the Olympic keeper id say about 5 years ago broke his jaw (Findley), after Mikelly Zonotto (brother of Mauro the stronzo) went studs up into his face. We have pictures of this and perhaps this on film. Will try get a pic in, uncle steve should have it.
Zonotto did the same thing to me that seaosn. Put his studs through my bottom lip and I got 6 stiches for it. Blood nose and fat top lip too.

Its no longer a problem.

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Bloody Italians mate!!

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radioman u were there in a flash as was mr waldergrave it was f**king classic. Whats worse is that our player on that day got sent off for lying on the ground in the foetal position. Also while this was going on and the ref did nothing we put the ball in the net and it was disallowed f**king odd
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the worst i saw was a team mate being called a racist name and he objected and threw a punch at the opposing player and the ref sent him off.. (not really that bad)
until he walked up to his car and got out a hammer and started running back onto the field to continue with the other player.. we stopped him and escorted him off.. but the opposition player was mightly lucky..
I hear our player is now playing with the oval ball.
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Toffeeman wrote:

Playing for Petone reserves at Farrington Field (then Centennial Park) and our full back got in  a pushing match with the Wgtn Coll (playing as Miramar ressies) winger. Our full back pushed him to the ground and proceded to punch the crap out of him. Prob got in a dozen good hits. This was just outside my pen box and the opposition keeper was in there with his gloves off before me. No comment on who that keeper was but it was before his pink shirt days. Our full back was suspended for 4 games by CF but the club banned him for the rest of the season. Never saw him again at the club.

Haha that was me getting beat up. Somehow I managed to get sent off for that as well (plus got a 2 week suspension).
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i know its spose to be what we have seen, but i would have to say the worst thing i have seen was the newcastle on newcastle punch up(bowyer on dyer was it). nothing wrong with a scrap between two seperate teams, happens alot but has anyone seen 2 (or even more) players from the same team go at it?
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last week the ref game yellow cards to 2 of the petone players.. they were arguing with each other.. and a bit pushy.. but not really much in it.. not really deserved.. we had a good laugh at them... hassle with the opposition not your own team mates!!
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What division?

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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radioman wrote:
i know its spose to be what we have seen, but i would have to say the worst thing i have seen was the newcastle on newcastle punch up(bowyer on dyer was it). nothing wrong with a scrap between two seperate teams, happens alot but has anyone seen 2 (or even more) players from the same team go at it?


Remember 2 Blackburn players doing the same thing in a Champions League game against Spartak Moscow in the mid-1990s. Think Graeme Le Saux was one of them, can't remember now who the other guy was.
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radioman wrote:
i know its spose to be what we have seen, but i would have to say the worst thing i have seen was the newcastle on newcastle punch up(bowyer on dyer was it). nothing wrong with a scrap between two seperate teams, happens alot but has anyone seen 2 (or even more) players from the same team go at it?
 
'99, Duncan Edwards and Graham Pearce bitch slapping eachother up at the old Ole indoor facility while playing a game of 2 v 2 with kids plastic goals and a plastic ball.
Pilonidal Sinus2009-07-31 09:58:52
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Couple of years ago...one marist first team striker headbutting the other marist first team striker at half time.
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pavlos8 wrote:
The worst thing iv seen is probably when the Olympic keeper id say about 5 years ago broke his jaw (Findley), after Mikelly Zonotto (brother of Mauro the stronzo) went studs up into his face. We have pictures of this and perhaps this on film. Will try get a pic in, uncle steve should have it.


Think it was Micheles knee but yea was very awful. I was playing and regrettably was pleading with the ref to award us a peno for the keeper taking Michele out... while Dave lay on the ground in a pool of blood and teeth... Woops didnt realise I swear.
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I refereed at the ethnic tournament in Auckland a couple of years ago and there was a battle between a Thai team and a team of Africans. Great fun! The Thais were busting out the Jackie Chan-esque flying kicks and all sorts. Luckily it wasn't the game I was reffing at the time so I could watch all the fun in safety, without fear of having my head kicked off.
 
Also remember one of the last games I reffed in Welly, between Wainui and Miramar (Cap. 1, I think) had a decent brawl. Started with a couple of young fellas swinging punches then it was all-in.
Jag2009-07-31 11:09:56

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Smithy it was last week Tawa Devils vs Petone Backpackers
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Salmon07 wrote:
pizda wrote:
Salmon07 wrote:

these stories should get back to cap Football and they should act upon them, surely

 
 
get a life, next you'll want neutral ref's every week as well. lol, stop being a policeman and deal with it like a man,.... boy!
um.ok
 
thanks Pizda-you really cleared that up. just remember everybody when a player assaults your girlfreind, or shows of his willie to the referee you have to harden the F#k up, and stop whinging like a widdle kiddie!
 
  you pussy, if someone hit my missus they'd end up in a coffin, but you'd obviously like to
be a wimp and write a letter, rather than defend your missus honour....soft approach get back to your pencil pushing, your boss is waiting. Wgtn harriers is looking for more runners you should consider changing to non-contact sport.
  if an opposition ref is a one eyed prick & allows his mates to go unpunished, you either walk off
or deal with it in the old fashioned way..knuckle sandwich.
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pizda wrote:
Salmon07 wrote:
pizda wrote:
Salmon07 wrote:

these stories should get back to cap Football and they should act upon them, surely

 
 
get a life, next you'll want neutral ref's every week as well. lol, stop being a policeman and deal with it like a man,.... boy!
um.ok
 
thanks Pizda-you really cleared that up. just remember everybody when a player assaults your girlfreind, or shows of his willie to the referee you have to harden the F#k up, and stop whinging like a widdle kiddie!
 
  you pussy, if someone hit my missus they'd end up in a coffin,
 
That's true.  I've seen your missus.  I wouldn't fight her.
Smithy2009-07-31 14:39:19

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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 thanks smithy
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pizda wrote:
 thanks smithy
 
If you're gonna dish it out pizda...you gotta take it.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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Few years back had a team mate (d**khd) get sent off after the game for abusing the ref. fuah692009-07-31 21:36:44
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We played a  marist team their keeper had a bad temper we had a corner and he ended up running out of goal and king hitting one of our players which caused a bit of a meellee( dick) and he wanted afters at the end of the game moron, anyway a few weeks later at another ground We were waiting for our game to start marist were playing the uni raiders  and one guy casually asked the same marist keeper what the score was when he told us they were down 2-0 one off our guy taunted him he'd given up two goals, at the same time the uni raiders made a break into the box their shot goes wide but the marist  keeper mad as hell at our comments  grabs their striker and attempted to throttle him and punch him out.giddyup2009-08-01 09:22:35
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Tyler wrote:
Jag wrote:
Wasn't there a battle between Seatoun and Brooklyn(??) a few years back with corner flags and all sorts being used
 
A couple of times this game ended in rumbles! Some dude from Brooklyn headbutted our defender and then one of our players ran about 50 metres to the headbutetr and it was all on.....except for me who ran towards my Mummy


I think I was down to ref that one - but got a late transfer - thank goodness!!.

Similar off the ball shenanigans between Marist and Brooklyn that season, in another unofficiated game. I watched 20 mins of that one, before hedaing off to my 2:30 - heard about it later in the week.

Beware the Masters 1 where the Brooklyn player in question has moved to!! :) 

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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el grapadura wrote:
radioman wrote:
i know its spose to be what we have seen, but i would have to say the worst thing i have seen was the newcastle on newcastle punch up(bowyer on dyer was it). nothing wrong with a scrap between two seperate teams, happens alot but has anyone seen 2 (or even more) players from the same team go at it?


Remember 2 Blackburn players doing the same thing in a Champions League game against Spartak Moscow in the mid-1990s. Think Graeme Le Saux was one of them, can't remember now who the other guy was.
Dave Batty was the other Blackburn player both got red cards
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radioman wrote:
i know its spose to be what we have seen, but i would have to say the worst thing i have seen was the newcastle on newcastle punch up(bowyer on dyer was it). nothing wrong with a scrap between two seperate teams, happens alot but has anyone seen 2 (or even more) players from the same team go at it?


Happened recently in Canada. Two players from Vancouver Whitecaps FC. Charles Gbeke and the now-released Wesley Charles.

http://www.24thminute.com/2009/06/whitecaps-van-city-insanity.html

Also has the Newcastle video on that page.
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Smithy wrote:
pizda wrote:
 thanks smithy
 
If you're gonna dish it out pizda...you gotta take it.
 ummmm..ok.....so what are you giving me to take??? not hitting my missus????
I've been takin it ever since i joined, and initially only asked questions, to have dimwits attack me
because they've read me out of context and seen it as an attack on them!!! my attitude is a result of other members not being able to TAKE IT not to mention read properly. not here to make friends...got enough thanks
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back on topic...worst thing i saw this w/end was seeing a fullback getting spoken to by ref 4 times for the same foul and not getting a single card!!!
 a player, after being tackled from behind, got sent for violent conduct. initially words were
exchanged, the oppo player provoked the matter further by intimidating him, a bit of push & shove, then he reacted by grabbing his neck with one hand in an attempt to back him off. he was
a lot shorter and i can see how this would be a natural defence for some. 
the player knows he made things worse for himself and i agree, however i thought that the provocation warranted a card of some kind also.
 is this not ungentlemanly conduct also? the fact that both players pushed each other around warranted dismissal for both. not that i agree with it, as testosterone needs to be released sometimes, as long as it don't come to throwing punches, which draws the line in my opinion.
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pizda wrote:
back on topic...worst thing i saw this w/end was seeing a fullback getting spoken to by ref 4 times for the same foul and not getting a single card!!!
 a player, after being tackled from behind, got sent for violent conduct. initially words were
exchanged, the oppo player provoked the matter further by intimidating him, a bit of push & shove, then he reacted by grabbing his neck with one hand in an attempt to back him off. he was
a lot shorter and i can see how this would be a natural defence for some. 
the player knows he made things worse for himself and i agree, however i thought that the provocation warranted a card of some kind also.
 is this not ungentlemanly conduct also? the fact that both players pushed each other around warranted dismissal for both. not that i agree with it, as testosterone needs to be released sometimes, as long as it don't come to throwing punches, which draws the line in my opinion.
Thats the most one-eyed version of an incident i've read in a while.
 
The BNU player tackled the Island Bay player from behind and a free kick was awarded, the BNU player backed off and the next thing you know the IB player has him by the throat and attempts to hit him, thankfully a player standing close to the incident grabs his arm as he's about to connect. The ref shows the IB player a red card for violent conduct (correct decision) and the player leaves the field, as IB line up the free kick the sent off player runs back on to the field and trys to attack the same BNU player again but is stopped by a number of players from both sides, he,s lucky not to receive another red card for this action.The IB player in question is an ex-BNU player and emotions must have got the better of him as he's not known for this behaviour, also it was a shame as he'd been one of IB best players up till then.
 
As regards the BNU left back he certainly rode his luck but the IB right m/f didn't help his cause by going down at the slightest touch and screaming at the ref to produce a card. Ref's don't like being told what to do especially by prima donnas who squeal like little girls. He needs to harden up a bit stop squealing so much,take a few knocks and maybe some ref's will take pity.
 
The one incident that did warrent a red card was the shocking dirty tackle that the short fat IB centre back dished out, it was very late studs up about mid shin height and was intended to do serious harm. He only received a yellow and a stern talking to but on another day with a different ref would have got a straight red. Apart from that the ref had a good game tho
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 i suppose that's why the r/mid went off injured at half-time, he wasn't hard enough!!
you do recall after foul that BNU player towered over the other who was shorter, engaged in
verbal banter, then pushed the 1st push, in what ended up snowballing into what a shorter person would consider self-defence at the time. BNu player didnt need to escalate by confronting
in the manner he did. and that my friend is the question i raised should'nt the provocation be
carded also. I'm not defending the player sent-off.
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I asked the BNU player after the game what he had said and he replied "I said nothing" he's an honest lad and i believe him. The IB player in question is 20+ years older than the BNU player and I don't believe anyone in capital football grades would be capable of intimidating him as he certainly knows how to look after himself. I just think he mis read the intention of the tackle and thought it was a deliberate foul and due to the fact he was playing against his old club, was 1-0 down and it was late in the game he lost it. To his credit he apologised to me after the game for his actions which shows the guy has a fair bit of bollox to him as alot of people would skulk away and hide.

Didn't realise the R m/f was injured, thought he got dragged. He's actually a good player and was giving our L/B a hard time, he just needs to focus more on his strengths and stop trying to get free kicks all the time. The ref was doing a good job and would have sorted it out had he not been screamed at. Anyway retribution was served up when an IB player took out the L/B with a late challenge and only got a warning.
 
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ok so you had to ask him to find out , what i have said is 1st hand through my ears and eyes, 5 yds away on sideline, i could see the fire in both eyes, i'm not relying on hearsay. anyway tackle from behind is dismissable offence ,at least yellow ....no?
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I witnessed the incident but could only see the BNU players back so couldn't see if he mouthed off, i asked him directly and he gave me an answer so its not hearsay. The actual challenge wasn't that bad it wasn't as if he went through him and sent him flying he was just attempting to win the ball. The ref dealt with it correctly awarded a freekick and said a few words to the BNU player, thats when it kicked off. There was alot worse fouls than that one which received nothing but a few words, and some ref's i can think of would have handed out about 4 reds and a dozen yellows. I still think the ref did a good job and at no time did the game get out of control, it was just both teams where committed to the cause
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pizda wrote:
ok so you had to ask him to find out , what i have said is 1st hand through my ears and eyes, 5 yds away on sideline, i could see the fire in both eyes, i'm not relying on hearsay. anyway tackle from behind is dismissable offence ,at least yellow ....no?


No.

A reckless tackle from any direction is a cautionable offence, if a tackle is made from behind, which wins the balls is done in a safe way, then there is no foul or caution

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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ginger_eejit wrote:
pizda wrote:
ok so you had to ask him to find out , what i have said is 1st hand through my ears and eyes, 5 yds away on sideline, i could see the fire in both eyes, i'm not relying on hearsay. anyway tackle from behind is dismissable offence ,at least yellow ....no?


No.

A reckless tackle from any direction is a cautionable offence, if a tackle is made from behind, which wins the balls is done in a safe way, then there is no foul or caution
 
Correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought a tackle from behind was illegal regardless of whether you won the ball safely or not.
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Nope.
 
In season 1998/99, a new clause was stipulated as Law 12 Decision 4, and stated "A tackle from behind which endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play". In 2005 this was changed to "A tackle which endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as serious foul play". There is nothing in the Laws Of the Game which says you can't make a tackle from behind.
 
It is possible to make a legal tackle from behind, so long as it doesn't, in the referee's opinion, endanger the safety of the opponent. e.g. a player can be standing behind an opponent and poke his foot between the opponents legs to kick the ball away. Still a tackle from behind, safety wasn't in danger, no foul.
 
 
Jag2009-08-04 10:42:55

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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ginger_eejit wrote:
pizda wrote:
ok so you had to ask him to find out , what i have said is 1st hand through my ears and eyes, 5 yds away on sideline, i could see the fire in both eyes, i'm not relying on hearsay. anyway tackle from behind is dismissable offence ,at least yellow ....no?


No.

A reckless tackle from any direction is a cautionable offence, if a tackle is made from behind, which wins the balls is done in a safe way, then there is no foul or caution
 
Correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought a tackle from behind was illegal regardless of whether you won the ball safely or not.


You stand corrected - you're wrong.
Used to be in the rule book - but hasn't been for a while. Illegal tackles, and typical sanctions are broken down into careless - direct free kick, reckless - direct free kick and caution, dangerous/excessive force/serious foul play - free kick and send off, regardless for direction of tackle.

The only guidance on automatic red cards in the laws of the Game are as follows

Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct
Decision 4
A tackle, which endangers the safety of an opponent, must be sanctioned
as serious foul play. (ie Red card)

So if a player from behind manages to slide in from behind, and a bit  to the side, and plays the ball cleanly then no free kick or sanction.

But if he comes in with a two footed tackle, directly from behind taking the player out - free kick a straight red. 

Another reminder here though, on a more general topic,  that the defence 'I got the ball' is not a valid one. If in the opinion of the referee the tackle was careless, then expect a free kick to be given against you, or cards to be shown if worse.

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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My ginger colleague speaks the truth, and the "I was going for the ball" line doesn't cut it either. Jag2009-08-04 11:03:07

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I think a lot of people use the I got the ball defence because often with one leg they purely got the ball.

They just happen to forget that the trailing leg and the rest of them cleaned up the player. It's as if the rest of their body is irrelevant in the tackle. it's a worry people still don't know the rules. There are that many!
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It's scary how many players don't know the laws of the game. I was amazed when I started refereeing how much I didn't know. My favourite, and I've only ever heard it in this country, is "He can't play the ball while he's lying on the ground". Which is utter bullsh*t. Indoor football has a lot to answer for.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Jag wrote:
It's scary how many players don't know the laws of the game. I was amazed when I started refereeing how much I didn't know. My favourite, and I've only ever heard it in this country, is "He can't play the ball while he's lying on the ground". Which is utter bullsh*t. Indoor football has a lot to answer for.


I heard that one on Saturday in Cap 2!.

Indeed, what becomes of playing too much futsal!

When Hibs, went up, to win the Scottish Cup - I wisnae there - furfuxake!

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Best one ever was from someone on the sideline at a game up here "It's a non-contact sport". WTF! Do me a favour!

Jag2009-08-04 12:02:37

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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