Auckland Pride - Make Auckland Great Again

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20 Legend wrote:
 martinb wrote:
Is it 20Legend who made the point that the new club exemptions exist largely as a counter point to the homegrown and long service allowances? 

As well the club will still have the same owners, have access to the same conditioning and scouting assistance as part of the wider international football group, have a bunch of fans with high expectations and is one of the more attractive climates in Australia and NZ, with fewer earthquakes, no snakes, no crocs, hardly any jellyfish of note and no fire ants etc etc

It might get tougher. Or it might just be same same by different. 
Yes.

The "Auckland have had salary cap allowances" for the past two seasons is copium. You'll notice no clubs are moaning about it because there's actually some science behind how the allowance is chosen.

And people are conflating it with the salary clamp down this season. Auckland aren't losing players because they had a massive salary allowance that is ending, they're losing players because the entire league is getting clamped.

Which stands to reason that everyone will struggle.

(I'm not saying Auckland isn't going to find was it essentially a total rebuild tough, just that it's due to the overall salary cap reduction not some special Auckland sauce) 








100 per cent this.

I think we will find that every club will have two to three high earning quality players less than last year.

In Auckland’s case it will likely be Hall, May and Verstrate.

In Wellingtons case it will likely be Singh, Rufer and Payne.

All other clubs will be similar.

It could well be that no team fills their 5 import quota.

Those clubs that can find gold nuggets in their new imports at a lesser cost (thinking Eze this year), will likely flourish.









Auckland will rise once more

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29 days ago
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
 20 Legend wrote:
 martinb wrote:
Is it 20Legend who made the point that the new club exemptions exist largely as a counter point to the homegrown and long service allowances? 

As well the club will still have the same owners, have access to the same conditioning and scouting assistance as part of the wider international football group, have a bunch of fans with high expectations and is one of the more attractive climates in Australia and NZ, with fewer earthquakes, no snakes, no crocs, hardly any jellyfish of note and no fire ants etc etc

It might get tougher. Or it might just be same same by different. 
Yes.

The "Auckland have had salary cap allowances" for the past two seasons is copium. You'll notice no clubs are moaning about it because there's actually some science behind how the allowance is chosen.

And people are conflating it with the salary clamp down this season. Auckland aren't losing players because they had a massive salary allowance that is ending, they're losing players because the entire league is getting clamped.

Which stands to reason that everyone will struggle.

(I'm not saying Auckland isn't going to find was it essentially a total rebuild tough, just that it's due to the overall salary cap reduction not some special Auckland sauce) 








 
100 per cent this.

I think we will find that every club will have two to three high earning quality players less than last year.

In Auckland’s case it will likely be Hall, May and Verstrate.

In Wellingtons case it will likely be Singh, Rufer and Payne.

All other clubs will be similar.

It could well be that no team fills their 5 import quota.

Those clubs that can find gold nuggets in their new imports at a lesser cost (thinking Eze this year), will likely flourish.
Based on the rumoured new cap of $3m - if 'Nix spend around that, we are likely spending more than last season not less.
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29 days ago
Bullion wrote:
 AucklandPhoenix wrote:
 20 Legend wrote:
 martinb wrote:
Is it 20Legend who made the point that the new club exemptions exist largely as a counter point to the homegrown and long service allowances? 

As well the club will still have the same owners, have access to the same conditioning and scouting assistance as part of the wider international football group, have a bunch of fans with high expectations and is one of the more attractive climates in Australia and NZ, with fewer earthquakes, no snakes, no crocs, hardly any jellyfish of note and no fire ants etc etc

It might get tougher. Or it might just be same same by different. 
Yes.

The "Auckland have had salary cap allowances" for the past two seasons is copium. You'll notice no clubs are moaning about it because there's actually some science behind how the allowance is chosen.

And people are conflating it with the salary clamp down this season. Auckland aren't losing players because they had a massive salary allowance that is ending, they're losing players because the entire league is getting clamped.

Which stands to reason that everyone will struggle.

(I'm not saying Auckland isn't going to find was it essentially a total rebuild tough, just that it's due to the overall salary cap reduction not some special Auckland sauce) 








 
100 per cent this.

I think we will find that every club will have two to three high earning quality players less than last year.

In Auckland’s case it will likely be Hall, May and Verstrate.

In Wellingtons case it will likely be Singh, Rufer and Payne.

All other clubs will be similar.

It could well be that no team fills their 5 import quota.

Those clubs that can find gold nuggets in their new imports at a lesser cost (thinking Eze this year), will likely flourish.
Based on the rumoured new cap of $3m - if 'Nix spend around that, we are likely spending more than last season not less.
And if that is true, maybe the whole Auckland FC salary cap exemption and copium aspect has more legs than is first thought.
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29 days ago
Auckland's salary cap perks are balanced out by the loyalty exemptions in practice - but that assumes every club is spending the full cap, and making full use of the exemptions which isn't true - most clubs are strapped for cash, look how many players are teenagers these days. Pretty hard to make use of exemptions if you can't afford them, nor if you've not got the players to benefit from them.

Regardless of what the salary cap is, Auckland are paying it because they have Foley's endless pit of money. Same can't be said about most other clubs.
Annual finals disappointment enthusiast.

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Commentary is Bayliss' goal vs Phoenix, but caption is for Head Coach ...
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So, current eleven under contract looks like.

Woud,

Elliot, Sakai, Nando, De Vries

Brimmer, Howieson, Bayliss 

Brook, Cosgrove, Rogerson

Seven kiwis in there and a solid eleven for the new coach to build upon.

With the son of the godfather on the bench.

Auckland will rise once more

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28 days ago · edited 28 days ago · History
AucklandPhoenix wrote:
So, current eleven under contract looks like.

Woud,

Elliot, Sakai, Nando, De Vries

Brimmer, Howieson, Bayliss 

Brook, Cosgrove, Rogerson

Seven kiwis in there and a solid eleven for the new coach to build upon.

With the son of the godfather on the bench.
This is genuinely not a bad outcome given the salary cap, particularly if Brimmer (who's still only 28) can rediscover his form. With the right coach this team would be handy.

I think you're right that Verstraete and Girdwood-Reich will follow Steve to Japan, but if we can keep one of them I think Auckland's in a very good place.
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28 days ago
20 Legend wrote:
 AucklandPhoenix wrote:
So, current eleven under contract looks like.

Woud,

Elliot, Sakai, Nando, De Vries

Brimmer, Howieson, Bayliss 

Brook, Cosgrove, Rogerson

Seven kiwis in there and a solid eleven for the new coach to build upon.

With the son of the godfather on the bench.
This is genuinely not a bad outcome given the salary cap, particularly if Brimmer (who's still only 28) can rediscover his form. With the right coach this team would be handy.

I think you're right that Verstraete and Girdwood-Reich will follow Steve to Japan, but if we can keep one of them I think Auckland's in a very good place.
pretty sure JGR was a one year loan?  
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AucklandPhoenix wrote:
So, current eleven under contract looks like.

Woud,

Elliot, Sakai, Nando, De Vries

Brimmer, Howieson, Bayliss 

Brook, Cosgrove, Rogerson

Seven kiwis in there and a solid eleven for the new coach to build upon.

With the son of the godfather on the bench.
Guessing the imports will be CB, CM, LW? AFC will still have a pretty strong team if they get no dud imports, the depth will definitely be a bit worse than previous seasons though.
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Yeah, definitely left wing (who has the ability to play striker when Cosgrove gets suspended) and a defensive centre midfielder (assuming Verstrate is off). I see the other day there were pictures of his wedding day on AFC socials, so maybe there is still hope there.

With salary cap pressures not so sure if they will fill all their import sports on another defender however. But they will likely need a decent first choice Australian centre back.

The rest of the squad will likely be scholarship players from the OFC team and a couple of over age players from the same team (I.e. Wynne)

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21 days ago
Why are AFC posting about signing Lebron James (at least I think that's who it is). I don't get the joke, does anyone?
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21 days ago
LeBron is leaving the Lakers, so they are just jumping on trend of sports teams suggesting he should look at signing for them.
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21 days ago · edited 21 days ago · History
I must admit I was very confused when I saw this

But they do need to announce preety dam soon what if anything is happening to a number of scholarship players off contract along with Verstraete, Francosie, Gallegos, etc.

Also a few signings/promotions from their OFC team.

Preseason starts soon and the Spurs game is this month.

At last count there are 12 players under contract.

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21 days ago
Might want to get the new coach locked in before the new signing announcements.

Nix played the whole 2nd half last year against Wrexham with a Weenix Academy side.

Auckland likely something sort of similar, when Spurs bring their own Academy heavy squad to Eden Park.
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21 days ago
RR wrote:
LeBron is leaving the Lakers, so they are just jumping on trend of sports teams suggesting he should look at signing for them.
I'm picking he might be able to out jump most defences!
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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20 days ago
Must be a teaser for their newest visa signing Christian Pulisic. The LeBron James of soccer.
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20 days ago
He looks a bit like Brian Kaltek?? the Perth and Vanuatu veteran defender. Good player but not quite Dan Hall quality
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18 days ago
Jonty Bidois and Middleton upgraded from scholarship to pro deals.

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ni
16 days ago
Gallegos has extended. 

Would have preferred it being Verstraete but oh well.

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ni
14 days ago
Any news on the new potential gaffer?
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14 days ago
Some of these AFC Reserves are likely to get playing time in front of a big crowd at Eden Park against Spurs soon

Be interesting to see how they go aka Nix’s Wrexham match last year 
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14 days ago
Bradman99 wrote:
 coochiee wrote:
One to watch.

https://twitter.com/thenichecache/status/2073979351666934217
https://twitter.com/thenichecache/status/2073979351666934217
 

 
Absolute natural finisher...and a real handful for defenders
Scored 17 goals last season in the second tier for Hamilton Wanderers as a 17yo - most by a teen since Jonty Bidois got 22 in 2023. Will be putting a case for next U20s cycle ('07/'08).
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14 days ago

"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington

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14 days ago
Hoping they upgrade a few promising Kiwis to senior or scholarship deals, from their OFC Pro League/Reserves squads.
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Dougie Rydal wrote:
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If you didn't know better, you would think he died with that kinda phrasing.
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AucklandPhoenix wrote:
https://i.redd.it/6ylgca23gvbh1.jpeg

So it looks like a home game first.

And it’s yellow - The Nix or CCM?
Very much doubt it will be Phoenix they have asked for Melbourne victory at ROF to celebrate our 20th season.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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AucklandPhoenix wrote:
So, current eleven under contract looks like.

Woud,

Elliot, Sakai, Nando, De Vries

Brimmer, Howieson, Bayliss 

Brook, Cosgrove, Rogerson

Seven kiwis in there and a solid eleven for the new coach to build upon.

With the son of the godfather on the bench.
Add Gallegos and that's already a pretty good team. Not sure why Bidois is re-signed while Gillion leaves. Or who makes these decisions when there's no head or deputy coach.
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13 days ago
Bidois is younger and a striker. Think Gillion might have stayed if he didn't have another offer, but Wanderers gave an opportunity to get more playing time.

Don't know the Auckland set-up but either a DoF is handling this is Corica was doing some work before he left
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13 days ago
Yeah Terry McFlynn is still there as DOF. 

He's got the knowledge and experience to handle all signings in absence of a yet to be revealed new coach - who may have already been appointed just waiting to be announced.

AFC are certainly being patient with Bidois. Middleton is another they obviously have some long term faith in.
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13 days ago
Foxe played the 2009–10 and 2010–11 seasons alongside Terry McFlynn at Sydney FC.

They would also have both overlapped for a couple of years (around 2019-2020) at Perth Glory, coaching. 

Ex centre back Foxe would appear a somewhat natural follow on from Corica. Pragmatic both.
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Over a dozen years as the bridesmaid at four Aleague clubs. Been an interim/caretaker for 6 games at two different clubs for one won, one loss and four draws. 10 years ago he was angling for the top managers role at Western Sydney and was bypassed, so it’s been a long time coming. Definitely will know the league well and while unlikely to have any immediate advantage this season would have sort of relationship/connection through the last year as Socceroo assistant manger with top Australian players.

It’s the sort of hire where you think maybe they were on the phone trying to tap up John Alosi, who said hey, I’m a bit tied up here in China and the moneys good, but how about my old assistant at Western United?

Cost wise he will be a lot cheaper then Coricia.








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13 days ago
I'm sure I can remember us being linked with Foxe years ago. Can't remember if it was after Kalezic, Rudan or Uffie but I vaguely recall there being rumours
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13 days ago
Jazzy Jeff wrote:
I'm sure I can remember us being linked with Foxe years ago. Can't remember if it was after Kalezic, Rudan or Uffie but I vaguely recall there being rumours
For a while, after the WSW interim manager stint, his name was thrown into any available manager speculation. It has been awhile since his name has come up.
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