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20 Legend wrote:

 martinb wrote:
Is it 20Legend who made the point that the new club exemptions exist largely as a counter point to the homegrown and long service allowances? 

As well the club will still have the same owners, have access to the same conditioning and scouting assistance as part of the wider international football group, have a bunch of fans with high expectations and is one of the more attractive climates in Australia and NZ, with fewer earthquakes, no snakes, no crocs, hardly any jellyfish of note and no fire ants etc etc

It might get tougher. Or it might just be same same by different. 

Yes.

The "Auckland have had salary cap allowances" for the past two seasons is copium. You'll notice no clubs are moaning about it because there's actually some science behind how the allowance is chosen.

And people are conflating it with the salary clamp down this season. Auckland aren't losing players because they had a massive salary allowance that is ending, they're losing players because the entire league is getting clamped.

Which stands to reason that everyone will struggle.

(I'm not saying Auckland isn't going to find was it essentially a total rebuild tough, just that it's due to the overall salary cap reduction not some special Auckland sauce) 

AucklandPhoenix wrote:

 20 Legend wrote:

 martinb wrote:
Is it 20Legend who made the point that the new club exemptions exist largely as a counter point to the homegrown and long service allowances? 

As well the club will still have the same owners, have access to the same conditioning and scouting assistance as part of the wider international football group, have a bunch of fans with high expectations and is one of the more attractive climates in Australia and NZ, with fewer earthquakes, no snakes, no crocs, hardly any jellyfish of note and no fire ants etc etc

It might get tougher. Or it might just be same same by different. 

Yes.

The "Auckland have had salary cap allowances" for the past two seasons is copium. You'll notice no clubs are moaning about it because there's actually some science behind how the allowance is chosen.

And people are conflating it with the salary clamp down this season. Auckland aren't losing players because they had a massive salary allowance that is ending, they're losing players because the entire league is getting clamped.

Which stands to reason that everyone will struggle.

(I'm not saying Auckland isn't going to find was it essentially a total rebuild tough, just that it's due to the overall salary cap reduction not some special Auckland sauce) 








 

100 per cent this.

I think we will find that every club will have two to three high earning quality players less than last year.

In Auckland’s case it will likely be Hall, May and Verstrate.

In Wellingtons case it will likely be Singh, Rufer and Payne.

All other clubs will be similar.

It could well be that no team fills their 5 import quota.

Those clubs that can find gold nuggets in their new imports at a lesser cost (thinking Eze this year), will likely flourish.

Bullion wrote:

 AucklandPhoenix wrote:

 20 Legend wrote:

 martinb wrote:
Is it 20Legend who made the point that the new club exemptions exist largely as a counter point to the homegrown and long service allowances? 

As well the club will still have the same owners, have access to the same conditioning and scouting assistance as part of the wider international football group, have a bunch of fans with high expectations and is one of the more attractive climates in Australia and NZ, with fewer earthquakes, no snakes, no crocs, hardly any jellyfish of note and no fire ants etc etc

It might get tougher. Or it might just be same same by different. 

Yes.

The "Auckland have had salary cap allowances" for the past two seasons is copium. You'll notice no clubs are moaning about it because there's actually some science behind how the allowance is chosen.

And people are conflating it with the salary clamp down this season. Auckland aren't losing players because they had a massive salary allowance that is ending, they're losing players because the entire league is getting clamped.

Which stands to reason that everyone will struggle.

(I'm not saying Auckland isn't going to find was it essentially a total rebuild tough, just that it's due to the overall salary cap reduction not some special Auckland sauce) 








 

100 per cent this.

I think we will find that every club will have two to three high earning quality players less than last year.

In Auckland’s case it will likely be Hall, May and Verstrate.

In Wellingtons case it will likely be Singh, Rufer and Payne.

All other clubs will be similar.

It could well be that no team fills their 5 import quota.

Those clubs that can find gold nuggets in their new imports at a lesser cost (thinking Eze this year), will likely flourish.

Based on the rumoured new cap of $3m - if 'Nix spend around that, we are likely spending more than last season not less.

20 Legend wrote:
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Commentary is Bayliss' goal vs Phoenix, but caption is for Head Coach ...

AucklandPhoenix wrote:
So, current eleven under contract looks like.

Woud,

Elliot, Sakai, Nando, De Vries

Brimmer, Howieson, Bayliss 

Brook, Cosgrove, Rogerson

Seven kiwis in there and a solid eleven for the new coach to build upon.

With the son of the godfather on the bench.

20 Legend wrote:

 AucklandPhoenix wrote:
So, current eleven under contract looks like.

Woud,

Elliot, Sakai, Nando, De Vries

Brimmer, Howieson, Bayliss 

Brook, Cosgrove, Rogerson

Seven kiwis in there and a solid eleven for the new coach to build upon.

With the son of the godfather on the bench.

This is genuinely not a bad outcome given the salary cap, particularly if Brimmer (who's still only 28) can rediscover his form. With the right coach this team would be handy.

I think you're right that Verstraete and Girdwood-Reich will follow Steve to Japan, but if we can keep one of them I think Auckland's in a very good place.

AucklandPhoenix wrote:
So, current eleven under contract looks like.

Woud,

Elliot, Sakai, Nando, De Vries

Brimmer, Howieson, Bayliss 

Brook, Cosgrove, Rogerson

Seven kiwis in there and a solid eleven for the new coach to build upon.

With the son of the godfather on the bench.