Straya - A-League and State Leagues

General A-League discussion

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over 5 years ago

assuming Hooper is one of our marquee players and clubs are allowed to keep their marquees outside the cap then logic would suggest reducing the cap has no effect on the likes of Hooper and Davilla. It really only affects the players who's salaries are under the current cap.

Queenslander 3x a year.

over 5 years ago
over 5 years ago

but the bigger headache could come later in the week as the players union closes in on a new collective bargaining agreement — likely operating under a heavily reduced salary cap.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/aleague-player-ratings-from-sydney-fcs-grand-final-win-over-melbourne-city/news-story/325f5d89ee984b8fe464cee3a1859f8b

I honestly expected that to drag on for months. I guess players will want the certainty asap, so they can opt out if their contracts get reduced by too much.

over 5 years ago

RR wrote:

but the bigger headache could come later in the week as the players union closes in on a new collective bargaining agreement — likely operating under a heavily reduced salary cap.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/aleague-player-ratings-from-sydney-fcs-grand-final-win-over-melbourne-city/news-story/325f5d89ee984b8fe464cee3a1859f8b

I honestly expected that to drag on for months. I guess players will want the certainty asap, so they can opt out if their contracts get reduced by too much.

Maybe not https://amp.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/a-league-clubs-players-union-at-loggerheads-over-new-cba-20200831-p55qy7.html?__twitter_impression=true
over 5 years ago

So Rufer off to Macarthur FC?

Mr Positive

over 5 years ago

Royz wrote:

So Rufer off to Macarthur FC?

better not
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So unless Libby won the March award & wasn't announced, he is ineligible for the Young Footballer of the Year award ....

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convienient

Queenslander 3x a year.

over 5 years ago

They gave the March award to Matt Millar ffs

over 5 years ago

Football Federation Australia (FFA) today announced that the Hyundai A-League edition of the Dolan Warren Awards will be held online next Thursday (10 September 2020) via the Hyundai A-League website (www.a-league.com.au) and Hyundai A-League official Facebook page (www.facebook.com/aleague).

The event will be hosted by FOX SPORTS presenter Adam Peacock, and will begin from 7:30pm (AEST) culminating with the presentation of the Johnny Warren Medal.

https://www.a-league.com.au/news/hyundai-a-league-edition-dolan-warren-awards-be-held-online-next-thursday
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over 5 years ago

some player soidarity - makes sense but probably means they all will take a pay cut.

Queenslander 3x a year.

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theprof wrote:

some player soidarity - makes sense but probably means they all will take a pay cut.

I guess they are worried that it could be used as a way to force players out.

It is a hard one. If they go with a 30% cut across the board, the lower earners are hurt more. If they did cuts that get higher the more you earn, like the ANBL did, the higher earners will opt out and leave the league (or sign for other clubs that have the cap space available to pay them what they feel they are worth)

over 5 years ago

I wonder how much of an effect reducing the squad sizes down to 18 & reducing the visas down to 4 would make.

over 5 years ago

dangerous to reduce to 18, player welfare and all that.

Queenslander 3x a year.

over 5 years ago

theprof wrote:

dangerous to reduce to 18, player welfare and all that.

Teams would still have their academies
over 5 years ago

RR wrote:

I wonder how much of an effect reducing the squad sizes down to 18 & reducing the visas down to 4 would make.

Dropping to 4 visa players makes sense, even if just for the 2020/2021 season. Most if not all teams like the Nix would have max 3 visa players currently signed. 

Don't think it would be great for dressing room for morale, if you ask your existing signings to all take a 30% paycut, then go out to the market and try and land another Gazza Hooper at nearly $1M per season.

over 5 years ago

You can’t blame the players for fighting to retain their pay rates. But the reality is that the A-League is deep strife. The loss of key sponsors plus heavily reduced TV plus no crowd money means there is just not the money. Something has got to give or the clubs will just go bust. I hope the players see reason. If the A-League folds then most players would be scrambling to save their careers as pro footballers. There are some very good players in the Aleague. But there are also plenty who are lucky to be paid to play.

over 5 years ago

Yeah but its not just the players who have to be reasonable and sorry what was proposed was not fair, if they want to have them take pay cuts it has to be all not just a selective few.


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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Western United captain Alessandro Diamanti claimed the Johnny Warren Medal for his outstanding debut Hyundai A-League campaign, receiving the honour at the Dolan Warren Awards held online on Thursday night.

Diamanti received 34 points from a panel that included former professional players, technical experts, match officials and media representatives.

He was followed by Milos Ninkovic (Sydney FC – 28 points) and Jamie Maclaren (Melbourne City FC – 25 points) with Diego Castro (Perth Glory – 23 points) and Ulises Dávila (Wellington Phoenix – 23 points) in equal fourth place.

Pity Davila's form dropped off after the Covid break, he could have won it.

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RR wrote:

That is SFC CEO

over 5 years ago

The players' union has effectively told the clubs it will not do a deal and has left it up to the clubs to negotiate separate pay structures with their own players.

The reason the PFA cannot accept the clubs' offer is because the union membership is divided.

The fragmented union has about 300 members, 200 of which have a job and the rest are unemployed.

And the only way the jobless 100 would get their job back is for the lucky 200 to take a considerable pay cut - which they have refused to do.

Melbourne Victory and Brisbane Roar are understood to have already made such arrangements with their players, although their roster is not complete.

Sydney FC have made overtures to their full complement of players for a cut of up to 20 per cent and will learn shortly if an agreement can be reached.

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RR wrote:

'an FFA spokesperson said the developments were "not a good way to begin the new era of an independent A-League."'

Heh.



over 5 years ago

Sage talks about a 30%  wage cut thought they wanted it to be selective not across  all players as Sage makes it sound like


GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

over 5 years ago

ballane wrote:

Sage talks about a 30%  wage cut thought they wanted it to be selective not across  all players as Sage makes it sound like

The 30% is an overall figure, the clubs want to drop the cap from 3.2m down to 2.1 mil.

What it seems to boil down to is this, the clubs wanna choose which players get their pay cut & the players are worried that the clubs could use that to force players out as the only options are to accept the pay cut or terminate your deal.

Imo the clubs will be wanting it this way so they avoid losing players who have value on the transfer market, so don't want to offer terms like the ANBL did, where everyone gets the option to opt out of their contracts instead of taking a mandated pay cut based on their contract value.


But the players fears are reasonable as well. Lets say the Nix re-sign Elliot, they could tell Fenton he has to take a big pay cut or terminate his deal as he is 3rd choice RB now.

Tbh I think the best way is to have the clubs renegotiate everyones deals one at a time, rather than come to a broad agreement as a league.