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This is huge I think. It gives them access to so much more. I would not be surprised to see them renamed and change to a sky blue. The Heart was a stupid name anyway.

 

Rather than send a player to the reserves, go play in Australia..... This is bloody good for the HAL and the FFA

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Rumours abound on twitter about a trademark being registered for Melbourne City FC last week, maybe gonna rebrand the club?


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God I hope so. Heart is the worst name ever. Melbourne City sounds rad.
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Jeff Vader wrote:

This is huge I think. It gives them access to so much more. I would not be surprised to see them renamed and change to a sky blue. The Heart was a stupid name anyway.

 

Rather than send a player to the reserves, go play in Australia..... This is bloody good for the HAL and the FFA


yeah
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It's beyond huge.

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might have to be my 2nd fave A-league side now #bandwagon #don'tgiveafuck

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SurgeQld wrote:

Rumours abound on twitter about a trademark being registered for Melbourne City FC last week, maybe gonna rebrand the club?

Absolutely...

So Le Arse take us over; Chelski can have Bling, Liverpool get Tarded and Man Utd take over Green Gully! It all makes sense!

Wellington Gunnix FC
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SurgeQld wrote:

It's beyond huge.

Just massive, any sort of link to the Premier League is good for the league as a whole. Wonder if we will see some rules around loan players and salary cap now though.
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JonoNewton wrote:
SurgeQld wrote:

It's beyond huge.

Just massive, any sort of link to the Premier League is good for the league as a whole. Wonder if we will see some rules around loan players and salary cap now though.

Also coaches/facilities... if one or two ther clubs are picked up who knows where it'll go. Citeh are also behind the new NT MLS franchise too - so it's clearly part of a broader strategy for them. I wonder if they'll target a Sth American presence too... depends on the Etihad routes I s'pose lol
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SurgeQld wrote:
JonoNewton wrote:
SurgeQld wrote:

It's beyond huge.

Just massive, any sort of link to the Premier League is good for the league as a whole. Wonder if we will see some rules around loan players and salary cap now though.

Also coaches/facilities... if one or two ther clubs are picked up who knows where it'll go. Citeh are also behind the new NT MLS franchise too - so it's clearly part of a broader strategy for them. I wonder if they'll target a Sth American presence too... depends on the Etihad routes I s'pose lol
Heart is a good pick up for MCFC. They get to grow their global brand for a pittance. $12 mil for their 80% stake in a team who plays in a salary capped league, where the TV rights pay for the players wages.
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And the Melbourne Storm get the remaining 20% stake. Jeebuz.

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Australian Financial Review are reporting Man City will tour Aussie in May, as part of the deal.

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SurgeQld wrote:

And the Melbourne Storm get the remaining 20% stake. Jeebuz.

Man City will be the money but I think the Storm will control day to day operations. Really interested to see what their plans are to fix the club. Storm share the same training facilities with the Victory, so no easy fix to Heart's lack of home base problem.
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I bet you that all links to the Victory will quickly be severed.

 

One of the benefits is that when pitching for a shirt sponsor, they can also offer a shirt in the MLS and also in Australia. The worth of that sponsorship on the shirt just went through the roof.

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So much history of these arrangements giving absolutely nothing to the Aus (or NZ) based club, it's hilarious seeing this ignored in all the back-slapping and mutual masturbation from the A-League media and FFA bodies.

I'll reserve judgement on just what it adds to the league.  Ask Northern Spitrit fans about Rangers.

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Partnership vs Ownership is a bit different I think you would agree.

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Rangers were owners of Spirit.

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Fark. From a brand growth viewpoint (HAL, MLS and MCFC), Citeh's move into MLS with New York (Xavi is rumoured to be heading there after world cup) and now Aussie has got to be one of the best things to happen to either league in ages. Pre Asian Cup too.

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Hopefully there'll be something put in place to stop players being registered with and paid by Man City then loaned to Melbourne at a reduced wage to get around the salary cap.

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Bahahahaha.  Funny.

Zero chance Wibble.  More likely there will be concessions to help Heart become 'more competitive' and attractive to the new owners.

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Month long guest stints here we come.

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patrick478 wrote:

Month long guest stints here we come.

Short term loans in the MLS offseason?
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Hard News wrote:

So much history of these arrangements giving absolutely nothing to the Aus (or NZ) based club, it's hilarious seeing this ignored in all the back-slapping and mutual masturbation from the A-League media and FFA bodies.

I'll reserve judgement on just what it adds to the league.  Ask Northern Spitrit fans about Rangers.

A bit different considering the ownership structure and apparent strategic plan of Man City though. The Sheikh isn't exactly a scrooge and the level of investment in setting up a team in the MLS as well indicates that they are in it for the long haul

 

Does this mean they'll be playing at Etihad instead of AAMI now?
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big move for sure

lots of potential. 

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The Storm are just using Citeh so they can rort the salary cap (and employ all their WAG's as PA's and cleaners for $150kpa lol)

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patrick478 wrote:

Month long guest stints here we come.

They'll have a MLS team for that.

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Hard News wrote:

So much history of these arrangements giving absolutely nothing to the Aus (or NZ) based club, it's hilarious seeing this ignored in all the back-slapping and mutual masturbation from the A-League media and FFA bodies.

I'll reserve judgement on just what it adds to the league.  Ask Northern Spitrit fans about Rangers.

A bit different considering the ownership structure and apparent strategic plan of Man City though. The Sheikh isn't exactly a scrooge and the level of investment in setting up a team in the MLS as well indicates that they are in it for the long haul

 

Does this mean they'll be playing at Etihad instead of AAMI now?

 

Report talks about increasing facilities at AAMI.

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Manchester Z 

Manchester Z

your just Manchester Z

Listen here Fudgeface
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Didn't take long...


We are excited to announce the loan deal of Michael Mifsud to Manchester City as injury cover for Samir Nasri. Good luck Michael! #aleague

https://twitter.com/MelbCity_FC


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Forgive my ignorance but I don't really understand the two teams in Melbourne from a Geographical stand point. I understand sydney has two teams one is the central city or 'east' city and one is the west. A fan can simply associate with the most local club. Heart and Victory seem to play in pretty much the same region and it seems like fans would just pick the club that was doing the best since they don't have a geographic preference (that I'm aware of). Can anyone offer some info on this, wiki doesn't clear it up. 

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Jeff Vader wrote:

This is huge I think. It gives them access to so much more. I would not be surprised to see them renamed and change to a sky blue. The Heart was a stupid name anyway.

 

Rather than send a player to the reserves, go play in Australia..... This is bloody good for the HAL and the FFA


That hasn't happened with the Red Bulls in the US has it?  I wouldn't get too excited about this, in reality it's a marketing exercise for City isn't it


Probably good for the league in that right now the Heart are basically failing but ultimately I don't think this changes anything day to day and the breathless articles in the Aussie press are a bit of an overreaction TBH.


Still, wouldn't mind if they'd bought us!

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Nommag wrote:

Forgive my ignorance but I don't really understand the two teams in Melbourne from a Geographical stand point. I understand sydney has two teams one is the central city or 'east' city and one is the west. A fan can simply associate with the most local club. Heart and Victory seem to play in pretty much the same region and it seems like fans would just pick the club that was doing the best since they don't have a geographic preference (that I'm aware of). Can anyone offer some info on this, wiki doesn't clear it up. 

There really isn't a geographical division in Melbourne, that is why Heart has always had an identity crisis. Melbourne needed a 2nd team but there is no easy way to divide the city. The big challenge for the new owners, is how to create an identity for the club.
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james dean wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

This is huge I think. It gives them access to so much more. I would not be surprised to see them renamed and change to a sky blue. The Heart was a stupid name anyway.

 

Rather than send a player to the reserves, go play in Australia..... This is bloody good for the HAL and the FFA


That hasn't happened with the Red Bulls in the US has it?  I wouldn't get too excited about this, in reality it's a marketing exercise for City isn't it


Probably good for the league in that right now the Heart are basically failing but ultimately I don't think this changes anything day to day and the breathless articles in the Aussie press are a bit of an overreaction TBH.


Still, wouldn't mind if they'd bought us!

NYRB isn't owned by Man City. Man City & NY Yankees own the New York City FC franchise that will join in 2015.

Heart needed investment off the park, they had no training base and was being run on the smell of an oily rag. Not sure much will change on the park in the short term, they do have access to the Man City scouting network now tho. Off the park is where we are likely to see the effects of the new ownership.
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Because of the salary cap A point of difference in the A league is the facilities (and the shopping if you are smeltzy). 

So in the long run it'll greatly help the heart I suppose, IF city even cough up for the facilities. 

Will also add...the fact that heart fans aren't up in arms about the prospect of a name change as well as a change in the colour of the playing strip basically shows that they never had much of an identity to begin with. 

If new owners came and change is from 'Wellington Phoenix' to 'new Zealand kiwis' and announced we'd be playing in all white. I'd be livid.

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Tegal wrote:

Because of the salary cap A point of difference in the A league is the facilities (and the shopping if you are smeltzy). 

So in the long run it'll greatly help the heart I suppose, IF city even cough up for the facilities. 

When I first heard the Storm being involved, I pictured them sharing facilities but the Storm and Victory train at the same place. Hopefully Man City will help develop their own training base for the club.
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Nommag wrote:

Forgive my ignorance but I don't really understand the two teams in Melbourne from a Geographical stand point. I understand sydney has two teams one is the central city or 'east' city and one is the west. A fan can simply associate with the most local club. Heart and Victory seem to play in pretty much the same region and it seems like fans would just pick the club that was doing the best since they don't have a geographic preference (that I'm aware of). Can anyone offer some info on this, wiki doesn't clear it up. 

There really isn't a geographical division in Melbourne, that is why Heart has always had an identity crisis. Melbourne needed a 2nd team but there is no easy way to divide the city. The big challenge for the new owners, is how to create an identity for the club.
Just to dissect this a bit RR, was there ever a clear reason why Melbourne 'needed' a 2nd team, given the geographical/identity issues which have been mentioned? I've never quite understood why there was a strong desire by the FFA for the Heart to exist (I'm aware I'm making some assumptions here, looking to be educated). 
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Fitzy wrote:
Nommag wrote:

Forgive my ignorance but I don't really understand the two teams in Melbourne from a Geographical stand point. I understand sydney has two teams one is the central city or 'east' city and one is the west. A fan can simply associate with the most local club. Heart and Victory seem to play in pretty much the same region and it seems like fans would just pick the club that was doing the best since they don't have a geographic preference (that I'm aware of). Can anyone offer some info on this, wiki doesn't clear it up. 

There really isn't a geographical division in Melbourne, that is why Heart has always had an identity crisis. Melbourne needed a 2nd team but there is no easy way to divide the city. The big challenge for the new owners, is how to create an identity for the club.

Just to dissect this a bit RR, was there ever a clear reason why Melbourne 'needed' a 2nd team, given the geographical/identity issues which have been mentioned? I've never quite understood why there was a strong desire by the FFA for the Heart to exist (I'm aware I'm making some assumptions here, looking to be educated). 

Melbourne is 4 million people. Way too big a market to not have a 2nd team (long term there should be 3 tbh). The original report that set up the A-League recommended 2 teams in Melbourne and Sydney to start with but the FFA went against that with exclusive 1 city 1 team deals.
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Fitzy wrote:
Nommag wrote:

Forgive my ignorance but I don't really understand the two teams in Melbourne from a Geographical stand point. I understand sydney has two teams one is the central city or 'east' city and one is the west. A fan can simply associate with the most local club. Heart and Victory seem to play in pretty much the same region and it seems like fans would just pick the club that was doing the best since they don't have a geographic preference (that I'm aware of). Can anyone offer some info on this, wiki doesn't clear it up. 

There really isn't a geographical division in Melbourne, that is why Heart has always had an identity crisis. Melbourne needed a 2nd team but there is no easy way to divide the city. The big challenge for the new owners, is how to create an identity for the club.

Just to dissect this a bit RR, was there ever a clear reason why Melbourne 'needed' a 2nd team, given the geographical/identity issues which have been mentioned? I've never quite understood why there was a strong desire by the FFA for the Heart to exist (I'm aware I'm making some assumptions here, looking to be educated). 

Melbourne is 4 million people. Way too big a market to not have a 2nd team (long term there should be 3 tbh). The original report that set up the A-League recommended 2 teams in Melbourne and Sydney to start with but the FFA went against that with exclusive 1 city 1 team deals.
So purely a population issue? That's what I guessed and it obviously makes sense on that level, but is it enough to make the team sustainable? I'm not sure if that's enough to connect people to the club long term.
2 is a bit of a difficult number in a way. It's almost as though if it were one team (i.e. just 'Melbourne') that's fine as they're an immediately identifiable group, and if there are several (like AFL in Melbourne or League in Sydney) that's fine too, as each club is from an easily identifiable community, but by having two clubs you lose out on the identity of both the city-wide option and the more locally-based 'community' option. It's a tricky one to solve.

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