Where is Jag. He will know.
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Takes a really special ref to overrule the lino on that one...
It wasn't correct interpretation of the laws.
Oh, and just saw that JV clearly demonstrated why it wasn't.
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Takes a really special ref to overrule the lino on that one...
It wasn't correct interpretation of the laws.
Oh, and just saw that JV clearly demonstrated why it wasn't.
https://twitter.com/adrianleijer/status/452581467911380992
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I'm guessing that Leijer isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and didn't quite understand the video and realise the nuances in the application of the law.
The replies to his tweet (from people who saw the same video) indicate as much.
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I can't point you to laws etc cause I'm on my phone. But my view is that while he's moved towards the player, he hasn't physically challenged the defender for the ball, therefore no offside.
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If this isn't challenging for the ball then I don't know what is.
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“interfering with an opponent” means preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent.
Surely that is distracting the defender.
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“interfering with an opponent” means preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or movements or making a gesture or movement which, in the opinion of the referee, deceives or distracts an opponent.
Surely that is distracting the defender.
Nah, he would have skied it into his own net without any pressure on him at all.
Allegedly
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Can't quote because using app, but the bolded part is no longer in the laws. It was removed in the most recent law changes.
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I would say gaining a goal is considered "gaining an advantage" though.
Allegedly
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I would say gaining a goal is considered "gaining an advantage" though.
A common misconception. In the definitions, gaining an advantage is defined as
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Can't quote because using app, but the bolded part is no longer in the laws. It was removed in the most recent law changes.
I took that from the 2013/14 LOTG.
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Can't quote because using app, but the bolded part is no longer in the laws. It was removed in the most recent law changes.
I took that from the 2013/14 LOTG.
Without wanting to say you're wrong, there's no way you could have.
Distracts only appears three times. None of those times relate to offside.
When that was included, ie before this season, that would be no goal. But by removing deceives and distracts, it removed the only thing that could have seen that given for offside.
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Can't quote because using app, but the bolded part is no longer in the laws. It was removed in the most recent law changes.
I took that from the 2013/14 LOTG.
Without wanting to say you're wrong, there's no way you could have.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/81/42/36/log2013en_neutral.pdf
Distracts only appears three times. None of those times relate to offside.
When that was included, ie before this season, that would be no goal. But by removing deceives and distracts, it removed the only thing that could have seen that given for offside.
There is also the line 'challenges the opponent for the ball'
It's offside. Argue all you like, it's a mirror of what happened. The officials got it wrong.
Grumpy old bastard alert
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Can't quote because using app, but the bolded part is no longer in the laws. It was removed in the most recent law changes.
I took that from the 2013/14 LOTG.
Without wanting to say you're wrong, there's no way you could have.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/81/42/36/log2013en_neutral.pdf
Distracts only appears three times. None of those times relate to offside.
When that was included, ie before this season, that would be no goal. But by removing deceives and distracts, it removed the only thing that could have seen that given for offside.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/worldfootball/clubfootball/01/37/04/27/interpretation_law11_en.pdf
Page 102
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Can't quote because using app, but the bolded part is no longer in the laws. It was removed in the most recent law changes.
I took that from the 2013/14 LOTG.
Without wanting to say you're wrong, there's no way you could have.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/81/42/36/log2013en_neutral.pdf
Distracts only appears three times. None of those times relate to offside.
When that was included, ie before this season, that would be no goal. But by removing deceives and distracts, it removed the only thing that could have seen that given for offside.
There is also the line 'challenges the opponent for the ball'
It's offside. Argue all you like, it's a mirror of what happened. The officials got it wrong.
I disagree that it exactly mirrors. In the image at the top, it shows contact and challenging for the ball. The incident in the game had no contact and only involved the striker moving towards the defender. No longer an offence.
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Can't quote because using app, but the bolded part is no longer in the laws. It was removed in the most recent law changes.
I took that from the 2013/14 LOTG.
Without wanting to say you're wrong, there's no way you could have.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/81/42/36/log2013en_neutral.pdf
Distracts only appears three times. None of those times relate to offside.
When that was included, ie before this season, that would be no goal. But by removing deceives and distracts, it removed the only thing that could have seen that given for offside.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/worldfootball/clubfootball/01/37/04/27/interpretation_law11_en.pdf
Page 102
That's just an extract from the laws of the game. Albeit an old copy of the laws which has been superseded by the change (shown with the vertical line beside it) on Page 108 on the link.
Change is clarified by this memo http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Rules_And_Regs/MEMORANDUM_2014_-_Law_Changes__2_.pdf
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So Fifa's website is out of date?
Surely he is still "challenging for the ball"
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So Fifa's website is out of date?
Surely he is still "challenging for the ball"'
1. Yes.
2. Well that's the question. And Fifa doesn't give us further guidance on that. The coaching I've got has said that running at a player is not deemed as challenging, but that there needs to be a physical challenge to attempt to win the ball (i.e. a tackle). There wasn't there.
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