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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
A yellow and a harsh word would have suffised. Was never a straight red imo.
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It never ceases to amaze me how so many people who should know better have so little understanding of the laws of the game.
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el grapadura wrote:
It never ceases to amaze me how so many people who should know better have so little understanding of the laws of the game.
Here we go...
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Boy. You'd feel a bit stupid about now if you'd insulted people who thought that was a justified decision...

How's my driving? - Whine here

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Hard News wrote:
Boy. You'd feel a bit stupid about now if you'd insulted people who thought that was a justified decision...




"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Wonder if that will be commented upon in the next Slater and Bosnich show.

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Boy. You'd feel a bit stupid about now if you'd insulted people who thought that was a justified decision...


Enjoying yourself?

Allegedly

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Boy. You'd feel a bit stupid about now if you'd insulted people who thought that was a justified decision...


Yes, you were right...

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Boy. You'd feel a bit stupid about now if you'd insulted people who thought that was a justified decision...


Bask in your well deserved glory sir.
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sydney FC conspiracy.
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

"Sharing rewards the weak"- Steven Colbert

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Just seen the 2nd red now. I'm surprised there is debate to be honest... Thats a gimme red. Might look a bit 'nah nah' after the fact but he jumped in at it.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
lol at the tards and Bosnich, lol

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Adding more fire to the debate, Foschini and the Victory thought the second week of the suspension could be served while Foschini was away on Oly-Roos duty, but have since found out that suspensions cannot be served while a player is on international duty. Means he can't play until Round 9 on December 3rd.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Holy sh*t I enjoyed that article from Junior.
I love Match review panel things.
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Hard News wrote:
A parked bus has at times been the thorn in the Brisbane side.�


HN = Nostradamus.

Ramming liberal dribble down your throat since 2009
This forum needs less angst and more Kate Bush threads



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As much as I like to see the Victory squirm I find it hard to reconcile Lyall Gorman's explanation that the test for an Obvious Error application is that "no referee would have awarded even a yellow card in the circumstances" with how Nick Ward got off.

Even though the red card Nick Ward got was obviously an error surely the tackle would have deserved a yellow card and therefore would fail a test of "no referee would have awarded even a yellow card in the circumstances"? If so, how did he get off?

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terminator_x wrote:
As much as I like to see the Victory squirm I find it hard to reconcile Lyall Gorman's explanation that the test for an Obvious Error application is that "no referee would have awarded even a yellow card in the circumstances" with how Nick Ward got off.Even though the red card Nick Ward got was obviously an error surely the tackle would have deserved a yellow card and therefore would fail a test of "no referee would have awarded even a yellow card in the circumstances"? If so, how did he get off?


Because he wasn't sent off for serious foul play/violent conduct. He was sent off for DOGSO, and in this case, it was an obvious error because (don't shoot me pedants) he wasn't the last man, and no referee would adjudge that he had DOGSO'd (that just looks weird) in the circumstances.aitkenmike2011-11-16 12:12:34
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aitkenmike wrote:
terminator_x wrote:
As much as I like to see the Victory squirm I find it hard to reconcile Lyall Gorman's explanation that the test for an Obvious Error application is that "no referee would have awarded even a yellow card in the circumstances" with how Nick Ward got off.Even though the red card Nick Ward got was obviously an error surely the tackle would have deserved a yellow card and therefore would fail a test of "no referee would have awarded even a yellow card in the circumstances"? If so, how did he get off?


Because he wasn't sent off for serious foul play/violent conduct. He was sent off for DOGSO, and in this case, it was an obvious error because (don't shoot me pedants) he wasn't the last man, and no referee would adjudge that he had DOGSO'd (that just looks weird) in the circumstances.


But it would have still been a yellow card for stopping a counter-attack by using foul play, exactly like what Ward got yellow carded against Brisbane for, when he fouled Broich on a counter attack. I agree with TX, and I don't think the test for an obvious error should be whether or not it deserved a yellow card. This is stupid, as there is a huge difference between a yellow card tackle and a red card tackle.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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The criteria for getting off is either mistaken identity (i.e. the wrong player) or wrong in law. In this case, the A League have an 'Obvious Application Error' criteria which the Victory used. With the DOGSO as mentioned above, it is wrong in law. The Foschini one is not one around wrong in law - its opinion. We all agree it was a bad tackle. Do you consider it a yellow card tackle or a red card tackle. If its a yellow card tackle then its ungentlemanly conduct (or what ever its called this day) If its a red, its serious foul play. As the referee thought it was a red card tackle, it was ticked as serious foul play. Had he been sent off for foul and abusive language, well then thats wrong in law and would have been rescinded. Do not confuse wrong in law (Nick Ward) with application error (Foschini) is what Gorman is saying.

Either way, it was a dirty tackle and he deserved to go.
Jeff Vader2011-11-16 22:18:26

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Jeff Vader wrote:
Do not confuse wrong in law (Nick Ward) with application error (Foschini) is what Gorman is saying.


If that's what Gorman is saying then it's a terribly written blog because he doesn't say that at all.

I'm not arguing against Foschini's red card being upheld, I'm just saying the FFA don't help themselves with the way they explain these decisions.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agree he may not have used those words but that the esentialy reasoning for Nick Ward getting off. You can't give a yellow card for Dogso. Its red or nothing. Granted you would give him a yellow for deliberately stopping them attacking but thats not the same law... or is it?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Jeff Vader wrote:
The criteria for getting off is either mistaken identity (i.e. the wrong player) or wrong in law. In this case, the A League have an 'Obvious Application Error' criteria which the Victory used. With the DOGSO as mentioned above, it is wrong in law. The Foschini one is not one around wrong in law - its opinion. We all agree it was a bad tackle. Do you consider it a yellow card tackle or a red card tackle. If its a yellow card tackle then its ungentlemanly conduct (or what ever its called this day) If its a red, its serious foul play. As the referee thought it was a red card tackle, it was ticked as serious foul play. Had he been sent off for foul and abusive language, well then thats wrong in law and would have been rescinded. Do not confuse wrong in law (Nick Ward) with application error (Foschini) is what Gorman is saying.Either way, it was a dirty tackle and he deserved to go.



Yep, this is what I was trying to say, only much better!
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
'triple header saturday'

Next up,

Jets v Roar in at 7.30 mesthinks?

Sydney and Central Coast after. 9.45?Azevo2011-11-19 19:15:51

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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Azevo wrote:
'triple header saturday'

Next up,

Jets v Roar in at 7.30 mesthinks?

Sydney and Central Coast after. 10.45?


Your right, but those are not the times.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Brissy to continue there unbeaten run I think.

Though seeing Brockie get a hat-trick against them would be pretty awesome.Azevo2011-11-19 19:29:50

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Looks like Newcastle aren't parking the bus, 3 at the back.
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Berisha should have had a couple so far, got the feeling once the Roar get the first they will keep coming.
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Issey misses another easy chance
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nicely worked by the Jets for their goal. been looking good tonight in patches
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
very good goal, the Roar don't look their normal self
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Roars passing not up to scratch, but to be fair, Newcastle have chased everything and are making it hard for Brisbane.
Still reckon the Roar will come back in the second half.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Are the Jets always this physical? seems there are more than a few hard challenges going in on the Roar lads tonight
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Unlucky for Brockie there, could've been two nil shortly after the break
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Newcastle all over the Roar atm.

[Edit: as I post, Roar score]
Ryan's Rovers2011-11-19 20:50:10
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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Good stuff, could see this being 3-2 or even higher.

We will never fully decide who has won the football.

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