2016/17 Phoenix Preseason

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james dean
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djtim3000 wrote:

james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

james dean wrote:

Bench is more important than the starting XI?  That is a new one on me. 

The composition of your bench is probably more important over the course of the season than a single position in your starting XI. That is what I wrote and I believe that to be true.

Right oh.  Well I am going to suggest something that for some reason seems revolutionary and that is sign some defenders to improve our defence.

Last 4 seasons we have been objectively really bad. Finishing 10th, 9th, 4th and 9th; GD of -18, -6, +10 and -20 over the past 4 seasons - it doesn't make great reading!! 180 goals conceded in 108 games for 122 points (source; Wikipedia). 

After season 2013/2014 the Nix finished 9th with a -6 goal difference. The next season they signed exactly ONE defender who only played less than a third of the season and the team finished with a +10 goal difference. The main difference? Depth and capability on the bench.

Hmm, or perhaps we signed 2 of the best 3 players to ever play for the club (Burns and Bonevacia)

September 13, 2016 14:32
LG
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I thought you meant Gao & Cleberson

September 13, 2016 14:36
paulm
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You could say we've essentially gone and done that again with Finkler and Barbarouses?

This time we added what looks like a quality CB as well.

We just gotta find a quality RB now. Somehow. Somewhere. 

September 13, 2016 14:36
djtim3000
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james dean wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

After season 2013/2014 the Nix finished 9th with a -6 goal difference. The next season they signed exactly ONE defender who only played less than a third of the season and the team finished with a +10 goal difference. The main difference? Depth and capability on the bench.

Hmm, or perhaps we signed 2 of the best 3 players to ever play for the club (Burns and Bonevacia)

Possibly. And if that is the case it suggests that we don't need to focus entirely on defenders to improve our defense. We can improve by having better quality over the whole pitch, which as Paulm has pointed out - it looks like that is what has happened.

With that said, a proper FB would be good, I just wouldn't drop A-Rod to find one.

September 13, 2016 14:42
valeo
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It's obvious that having a cohesive unit up front helps the defence too - but I still think we need reinforcements. The one good thing to come out of last season was that Fox got a whole lot of experience, so should be ready to slot in when needed.

September 13, 2016 15:46
dunnix
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Video of goals have just gone up on Nix FB page

https://www.facebook.com/wellingtonphoenixfc/video...

September 13, 2016 17:08
2ndBest
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Appiah without the pace
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Lolz they exclude Cahill's!
September 13, 2016 17:13
nufc_nz
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That was 3 goals...

September 13, 2016 17:13
Joey Johns
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2ndBest wrote:
Lolz they exclude Cahill's!

he probably wants a royalty fee

September 13, 2016 17:16
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
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dunnix wrote:

Video of goals have just gone up on Nix FB page

https://www.facebook.com/wellingtonphoenixfc/video...

It looks to me like both Finkler's goals have come from deflections off the walls, but I might be mistaken.

September 13, 2016 17:49
valeo
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Those free kicks were probably best left to the imagination, haha. Both pretty bad, somehow squeezing through.

Other two goals were nice though

September 13, 2016 18:01
Boro4eva
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Yeah bit of a let down.  Only good thing was they were on target and they went in..a goal's a goal.

September 13, 2016 19:30
number8
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We score two goals from a freekicks and people complain about that where deflections. I hope this season will be all how 'not actually great' our goals where shot.
September 13, 2016 20:05
nufc_nz
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Whoops. I missed Finklers 1st goal lol. Blink and ya miss it!

September 13, 2016 20:30
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
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number8 wrote:
We score two goals from a freekicks and people complain about that where deflections. I hope this season will be all how 'not actually great' our goals where shot.

I hope it is! Much better topic than where is our next goal coming from?!

September 13, 2016 20:57
patrick478
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I think the first free kick took a deflection, but the second one was just perfectly placed. Either way, I'm stoked that we are a threat from set pieces now! No more cynical fouling Roly on the edge of the box.

September 14, 2016 08:58
paulm
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Krishna's second was absolute quality

Love that guy

September 14, 2016 09:14
2ndBest
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Who knocked the pass? Rossi? Dura? Lia?

September 14, 2016 09:23
Bullion
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2ndBest wrote:

Who knocked the pass? Rossi? Dura? Lia?

Dura. Great pass, first touch, turn and finish.

September 14, 2016 09:49
2ndBest
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Appiah without the pace
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2ndBest wrote:

1 October v Intra-squad, Westpac Stadium, Wellington.

Apparently this is 12pm

September 15, 2016 13:55
james dean
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2ndBest wrote:

Who knocked the pass? Rossi? Dura? Lia?

And who scored?  Kosta?  Was a lovely take from whomever brought that ball down

September 15, 2016 14:00
2ndBest
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Krishna

September 15, 2016 14:01
valeo
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<3 Krishna

September 15, 2016 14:25
nufc_nz
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Krishna

September 15, 2016 15:33
Cosimo
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Krishna

September 15, 2016 15:58
ConanTroutman
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Hare, Hare

September 15, 2016 15:59 · Edited September 15, 2016 15:59
patrick478
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ConanTroutman wrote:

Hare, Hare

Nah, Liam Hare was left behind in Wellington.

September 15, 2016 16:25
ConanTroutman
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patrick478 wrote:

ConanTroutman wrote:

Hare, Hare

Nah, Liam Hare was left behind in Wellington.

Rama Rama then?
September 15, 2016 16:33
HZA
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Mata?

September 15, 2016 18:39
RR
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Cahill goal

September 15, 2016 20:26
djtim3000
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RR wrote:

Cahill goal

I can't tell if that is a bad touch from Rossi(?) or a great touch and turn from Cahill.

September 15, 2016 20:32
Oi Oi Edgecumbe
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djtim3000 wrote:

RR wrote:

Cahill goal

I can't tell if that is a bad touch from Rossi(?) or a great touch and turn from Cahill.


Me neither, hopefully the latter!
September 15, 2016 21:40
Jolly
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Oi Oi Edgecumbe wrote:

djtim3000 wrote:

RR wrote:

Cahill goal

I can't tell if that is a bad touch from Rossi(?) or a great touch and turn from Cahill.


Me neither, hopefully the latter!

Hard to tell, but for me it comes off the Phoenix player

September 15, 2016 22:10
JBoyd
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djtim3000 wrote:

RR wrote:

Cahill goal

I can't tell if that is a bad touch from Rossi(?) or a great touch and turn from Cahill.

That touch was Cahills, but Rossi should've stopped it.

September 16, 2016 00:01
GK
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Tasman in the curtain raiser vs weenix. 3-1 to Tasman. Iffil with a pen and a brace for the Swedish chef? Other predictions?

September 17, 2016 08:43
George Costanza
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captain vinnie

September 17, 2016 16:41
kwlap
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George Costanza wrote:

captain vinnie

Fox at RB, Vinnie at CB, Parkhouse at LB? or are we playing with 3 CBs and Parkhouse + Ridenton are wingbacks?

September 17, 2016 16:58
George Costanza
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#CCMFC ‏@CCMariners

3m3 minutes ago

38’ | 0-1 | Goal to Phoenix, scrappy play in the box from a corner and Hamish Watson nudges it over the line #CCMvWEL #CCMFC

September 17, 2016 17:40
RR
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Ryan Lowry is a LB from ECU Joondalup, the team Mambo played over winter with. Ex Glory youth player that was in that WA select side that faced the Glory.

Jacob Tratt is a CB that can play RB, he was contracted with Sydney FC last season

Shayne D'Cunha is another CB that can play RB, previously at WSW last season.

September 17, 2016 17:54
JBoyd
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GK wrote:

Tasman in the curtain raiser vs weenix. 3-1 to Tasman. Iffil with a pen and a brace for the Swedish chef? Other predictions?

1-0 Tasman. 90-something minutes, Coey free-kick.

September 17, 2016 18:09
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