$40-45 Million Soccer Specific Stadium - Petone Phoenix

You know what they say:

A bird in the hand saves nine.

A stitch in time is worth two in the bush?

PS I rate the sig (lose not loose ;) ), you may recognise my avatar...

In 2 years no one has called me on this. 2 years. Mods, take control.

Grenada - Petone feed back required

In 2 years no one has called me on this. 2 years. Mods, take control.

Grenada - Petone feed back required

In answer to Napier Phoenix suggestion:

The grey building directly across the road from the Rec is the Petone Workingmens Club. (13000 members). To the right of the club is the Masoinic Lodge. Behind these buildings are the Petone Rugby clubrooms next to North Park. Behind North Park is the Petone Tennis Club The remainder of the block that is circled is owned by the PWMC.

To the right of the circle is the Central Bowling Club and Petone Swimming Club. If you dont think stirring up a fight with that lot is enough,  I could probably point out a couple of Gang Headquarters for you to visit.

 It would well have helped matters if Petone FC, the code's representative in the area, had  been consulted by Hutt City Council, Phoenix or Yellow Fever before bullets were fired. Petone residents are not all Nimbys.They probably would have been a great deal more supportive for the Arena if more consultation had been made available. With 36 sports clubs in the village, they are very much people who have an interest in sport. There are areas in Petone and surrounding districts that could accomodate a stadium without destroying grass roots sport. Someone might like to post an ariel picture of the Unilever site at the Eastern End of Jackson St.

 As a Life Member of Petone FC and Foundation Member of the Phoenix, I totally endorse Petone FC's  submission which is displayed on the club's website and above on this thread.

Something I put in my submission with absolutely no knowledge- but what are the requirements for the under age group competitions we have been holding? Are any of them likely to be held at the ground? Is it possible to hold Island nation cup games or other international games at the stadium? Especially for games like Tahiti and New Caledonia where a full stadium would be better than the empty spectacle of Westpac or something like that...

What are the crowds like for the age groups and for the Football Ferns? Lastly- is there enough talent in the Wellington region to think that there could be an expansion NZFC/ASBP team that could play at the stadium??

anyway- just questions...all of which might add to the case for the stadium.

Petone Community Board - AGAINST

This week the Petone Community Board announced that it is OPPOSED to the Petone Arena proposal. This from Board Chair, Mike Fisher:

"At our Petone Community Board meeting this week we have formally resolved to oppose the proposed Petone Arena's inclusion in the draft annual plan" said Board Chairperson Mike Fisher.

"We have also asked that Council take no further steps to consider or investigate the proposal " he said.

"After hearing from residents at two public meetings, considering feedback received by individual members, listening to briefings and discussing the issue at sports events and in the street, we believe that it is not in the interests of local residents and indeed the wider city to proceed any further with this idea".

"The impact on current users of Petone Recreation Ground would be substantial, the effects on residents likewise and numerous issues such as parking, noise, loss of amenity values and traffic make this a proposition that is simply not worth pursuing."

"Let's save everyone, residents and Council alike time, energy and expense by killing this proposal off at this stage and do not include it in the annual plan" said Mr Fisher.

Community boards are generally full of NIMBYs aren't they? In which case that is no surprise. 

FYI -

Question for the YF: is this an opportunity for us to show our community spirit and fill the consultative gap and go on a bit of a PR road show if it get's to the next stage?

Or is it more the case that if YF can do a better job than the Welnix and the Council then this thing is doomed anyway...

Meanwhile in Sydney

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/new-hitech-plan-for-allianz-stadium-has-footy-fans-covered/story-fni0cx12-1226922080457

To compare apples with apples though, this is hardly the same thing as the Petone Rec. Moore Park is huge with little or no impact on housing. For those that don't know the stadium is right next door to the SCG and next to that is Fox Studios and Centennial Park. No one lives there to complain.....

Sadly, this thing is looking dead in the water

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I am afraid you are right. Which could have some dire consequences for the Nix in the long term. If my reading of the situation is correct there was a distinct possibility, that if the new stadium was built , the Nix could financially come lose to breaking even every year, allowing for an average crowd of 6000 to 8000. In other words the club playing in Petone would become viable.....and would still be around in 20 years time without having to be propped up by rich benefactors.

Because I don't think Welnix will be around in 10 years time.....I know for a fact that some of the Welnix guys feel they have done their bit for the Nix, so I would not count on them dipping their hand in their pocket beyond their stated 5 year commitment. A lot will depend on Gareth but I don't think his constant talk of "pulling the pin" is idle chatter. These guys lost $2 mill in their first year and will lose $1 mill this year and they are not the sort of people who continually put money into loss making businesses.

The Petone Arena was one plan to set the Nix model up as self sustaining. Without an alternative option the long term future for the Nix is not that bright.