Where is Aaran Lines?
He is better than alot of the players the phoenix have
signed...eg Richard Johnson.
Hes a kiwi playing well for Rochester in the USL (other
current players in the phoenix have crashed and burned in this
league)
Hes got the experience and would no doubt be available.
Can the phoenix afford to pass up on these sorts of
players??
wouldnt you rather see Aaran than some washed up aussie?
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Where is Aaran Lines?
He is better than alot of the players the phoenix have
signed...eg Richard Johnson.
Hes a kiwi playing well for Rochester in the USL (other
current players in the phoenix have crashed and burned in this
league)
Hes got the experience and would no doubt be available.
Can the phoenix afford to pass up on these sorts of
players??
wouldnt you rather see Aaran than some washed up aussie?
I think you answered your own question there.
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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meh he is average. we have better
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No chance, none at all. Considered by some to be the worst
player ever to don an All Whites strip (Brad Scott excluded).
He's burnt more bridges than a retreating Russian Army.
Hard News2007-06-13 16:27:03
He's burnt more bridges than a retreating Russian Army.
Hard News2007-06-13 16:27:03
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Dont underestimate Richard Johnsen
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Hahahaha i hope this thread was a joke. Good attempt to bring some
humour to the forum mate. He could play in his day, but to say hes
better than alot of the players the Phoenix have signed is a bit
over the top. Richard Johnson?? He performed well in version one
for Newcastle and again at the end of last season for the Knights.
Thats probably why he was one of the first signings Herbert made
for the Phoenix.
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I remember him as being a player who had a lot of hype around him
but he never seemed to produce the goods when he played for the
knoghts
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He played for the Kingz in the best performing season any NZ team
has had in the aussie league.
How can a player who has played pretty much his whole career
overseas be a joke? he hasnt flaked and had to come home like so
many others to play.
And that "worst player to don the all whites jersey" set up
the goal that sent nz through to both the 99 and 03 confed cups
scored by mark burton and ryan nelson respectively.
pro for around 13 years a joke? and still only
29!!
who has NZ got with that sort of experience who would play a
league??
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Brother I assume ?
Firstly, the Kingz best performed season was season one. Aaran did not play for the Kingz in season one.
Secondly, he came home to the Kingz, to claim he didn't have to come home is a complete re-write of history.
Richard Johnson played in the Premier League and the English Championship for a significant number of years. Aaran struggled to hold a place in the Polish 2nd division.
If he hasn't been selected for an AW's squad for 4 years, why would Ricki select him for the Phoenix ?
Hard News2007-06-13 17:40:27
Firstly, the Kingz best performed season was season one. Aaran did not play for the Kingz in season one.
Secondly, he came home to the Kingz, to claim he didn't have to come home is a complete re-write of history.
Richard Johnson played in the Premier League and the English Championship for a significant number of years. Aaran struggled to hold a place in the Polish 2nd division.
If he hasn't been selected for an AW's squad for 4 years, why would Ricki select him for the Phoenix ?
Hard News2007-06-13 17:40:27
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I wasnt suggesting he was a joke as a player, I was saying the idea
of him playing for the Phoenix and being alot better than the rest
of the squad is a joke. He could play a bit in his day but I think
that Sir Les is right, when he came back to play for the Kingz he
didnt really make an impression like he was expected too. As a
player he had a sweet left foot, i just thought he probably lacked
a bit of pace even in the old NSL so he would probably struggle in
the A league. I didnt mean it to sound like I was calling him a
joke, or your opinion was a joke.
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No just a seasoned NZ football supporter.
Why has he not been selected? not sure, hes selecting players
who dont even have clubs, why has ryan nelsen not played under
ricki herbert?
is anyone concerned our best player does not want to play for
ricki?
if he is going to struggle...then how the hell is "headless
chicken" lochead going to cope?
im not saying lines is the best option, im saying he is better
than some players already signed, to my knowledge he didnt struggle
in poland, in fact, did quite well.
he seems to have prospered in the US from what i have
read.
he may not be our best, but to have played for so long in pro
football, im sure he is doing something right.
players like lines,bunce are no doubt better suited overseas
anyhow.
go the phoenix!
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Aaran Lines set up the goal in Brisbane '98 to get us through to
Mexico '99?
Methinks not!
Without digging out old footage, my memory says that the ball
was hoisted forward, Coveny (I think, but it may have been Harry)
bobbled the ball, it somehow squeezed to Burts who slotted
home.
And the goal that lead to Ryan Nelsen scoring, enabling the
AWs to go to France '03.....memory more faded on this, and it could
have been Lines. But it also might have been Elliot.
Lines is yesterdays news, like Burts. And a number of others.
They peaked, then faded away. 99, 2000, 2001 maybe, but not
2007.
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Mate, Lochead played in the MLS, Lines has only played in the
division below the MLS. Lines was at a Bundesliga club though
wasn't he, Werder Bremen maybe?? I remember a young fella asking
him for an autograph at a Kingz match and he pretended to be the
Kingz German player Andreas Bluhm and that he couldnt speak any
English. It was quite funny, obviously he signed the guys ball in
the end, but I thought it showed he had a pretty good sense of
humour and wasn't too wrapped up in being a pro footballer like
some are.
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Cant find the brisbane goal but im 99% sure it was him, on the
brissie goal...The Oceania Nations Cup Debacle - Who's to blame
and what does it ... Washington DC-based
Nelson volleyed home an Aaran Lines free-kick from close
..... The Oceania Nations Cup final defeat by New
Zealand cost Australia a ...
home.alphalink.com.au/~warrior/edonc.htm - 46k -
home.alphalink.com.au/~warrior/edonc.htm - 46k -
that should sort that
out.
he may not be suitable, but
i would rather see him or even chris jackson! instead of some 33 yo
has been convicted of drink driving trying to meak out another
season before having to get a job.
I am now completely over
this subject, it was an idea I floated.
P.S - Bloc 5 were rubbish,
absolute rubbish!
yellow fever is looking good
though
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and i never did get anything about Nelsen not EVER playing for
Ricki, simon elliot seems sluggish too, maybe because ricki dropped
him from the AW's just before he signed for fulham.......nice one
ricki, nice!
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Thought you'd had enough of this subject?
Ryan will play for Ricki (he's said so recently
himself) but a combination of injuries, club commitments and
recovery time have clashed with matches so far. Elliott was dropped
after the Confeds Cup in France debacle when Mick Weight (lol) - a
lot of sh*t hit the fan over there that would take to long to go
into now - but suffice it to say he's back in the fold now - end of
story.
Peoples Republik of Aucklandia
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ist subject aaran lines
2nd subject - ricki herbert and ryan nelsen.
he will play for ricki yes, but only for the absolute crucial
matches like world cup qualifiers.
he doesnt like ricki, and the s**t hitting the fan is based
around player bonus payments and paying players who were there for
qualifying and the confed cup more than just the confed cup
players, also the organisation of nz soccer when it comes to big
events.
ryan has not played since the disaster of 2004, to this date
he has showed no commitment to playing under ricki, other than
world cup qualifying in which he is understandably keen to
play.
ricki cannot ignore elliott now that hes at fulham but ricki
is cutting players out to early, you are in the peak of your
footballing career at 30 so passing over players like bunce,lines
etc can be a big mistake.
i cant agree that lines and bunce are washed up at this age, i
think aaran is 29 or maybe 30, with 35 caps thats alot of
experience to pass up this close to world cup qualifying!
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How about we sign Lines and then sub him on every time we get a
free kick 30 yards out so he can dink it over the defense. I guess
then we would need to sign Nelson to run onto it too...
Founder
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Yeh but Feverish you are forgetting that Nelsen doesn't want to
play under Herbert unless its World Cup Qualifying...
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Oh forget it then. Sorry Aaran
Founder
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Welcome to 2001 in sydneyphoenix's little world... where Aaran
Lines deserves a professional contact becaus he was once on the
youth books of some German club and Chris Jackson's brand of
clogging will get you by in an NSL a million miles below the
standard of the A-League.
As for Bloc 5 ? Where were you looking to do anything to promote the game and support the kingz ? Thought so... bagging others rather than doing anything yourself.
As for 2003, for 99% of that tournament we'd have been better with 10 players out there than playing Lines.
As for Bloc 5 ? Where were you looking to do anything to promote the game and support the kingz ? Thought so... bagging others rather than doing anything yourself.
As for 2003, for 99% of that tournament we'd have been better with 10 players out there than playing Lines.
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The notion that Lines could play in his day is correct - in fact
that day came in August 1999, against Malaysia in KL when he played
an impressive part in the AWs 5-1 victory... other than that,
he only ever contributed sporadically due to the fact that he
was one of the most one-dimensional
interantional footballers ever - one foot, one trick, one
pace... fine if you're Ferenc Puskas (God rest his soul), but
Puskas Lines is not...
The only goal of the 1998 ONC final was created by Coveny and
Ngata and buried by Burton... Lines had a solid tournament as a new
international, due to the fact he was coming off a decent club
season in Germany... but he was shown up in Mexico, and never
reached those heights again.
Yes, his freekick in the '03 final was dispatched by Nelsen -
but a semi-competent Socceroos defence would have never
let Ryan run in unmarked at the far post... and if Coveny and
Mulligan had been available, Lines would not have been in the squad
let alone the team... so a bit hard to place him on a pedestal
there. Excellent goal against Estonia notwithstanding, Lines
was simply exposed at international level as not good enough - he's
not alone in that, sure, but signing him for the Phoenix would not
be a positive step.
The Polish team he did well for are at the centre of the
biggest match-fixing scandal in that country's history, that
stretches back several seasons - may explain his success
there?
He joined the Kingz in their first seaosn, knowingly hiding a
serious injury which flared up and he played less than one half of
football. IN their second season he was grotesquely out of
form, and despite an exceptional, if somewhat flukey, strike away
at Melbourne, contributed next to nothing - reflected in his
insipid showing against the Socceroos in Wellington.
Good on him for forging a career in the States, but he would
not hack the A-League, end of story... and if he ever gets picked
for the AWs again, ahead of the likes of James, Bertos, or even
Barbarouses, then there is something seriously seriously
wrong. His age and experience are irrelevant - it is simply
down to ability and performance, and while osme other signings may
not be up to scratch, Lines is not the answer.
By all means talk up the Fever, they have my full support -
but does that mean you need to sl*g off Bloc 5? one of the
most effective organic sporting movements in NZ's history? a
group of devoted fans who always put the game first, who paid for a
Perth fan to fly to Ch'ch to watch the Glory play, who stood
alongside Karori's finest at the Stade de France in full voice as
the All Whites were rodgered 5-0 by Henry et al?
No, there's no need for it.
But well done for prompting some healthy debate, it's good to
see fans tapping into AWs history and showing some passion.
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That was comprehensive mate, seems to be pretty much on the money
too from what I can tell.
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End of story.
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
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how dare you badmouth Richard Johnson...yes he made a mistsake but
currently worse than Lines? seriously?
if we're going to bring back the players of yesteryear bring in Ngata, he was, and still is the man
gings2007-06-13 22:53:58
if we're going to bring back the players of yesteryear bring in Ngata, he was, and still is the man
gings2007-06-13 22:53:58
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if we're going to bring back the players of yesteryear bring in
Ngata, he was, and still is the man
Post of the week.
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Ha ha ha, Or even bring back Jeremy Christie from the old
Kingz team. Ha ha
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Deja Vu.
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
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Crosby's Header, I am hereby the first on this forum to decode your
name, and supply the second part to the cipher - that being "Andy
Dibble's hand".
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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The USL isn't exactly a top-flight league. To say a player is
"doing well" later in his career as a part of a USL team is a
pretty good indication he's washed up, especially if he's not from
north america.
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Good stuff Crosb'y Header. I was never part of Bloc 5, but did join
you chaps for a Knights game here in Wellignton once. I was made to
feel very welcome signing with you chaps and was always impressed
by your devotion to the Auckland Frinchises.
I am not impressed by any efforts to sl*g Bloc 5, because in
many ways you are our predecessors, and it is not any fualt of the
fans that the previous franchises failed.
Bloc 5 are part of YF, and an important part. I would gladly
stand beside a Bloc 5 banner at any WPFC game.
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Phil style I think the attempt to have a crack at Bloc 5 was an act
of desperation, clutching at straws even. The rest of the argument
was falling down with unsubstantiated comments, so why not make
another comment that drags all the attention away from them with
saying something about Bloc 5. I dont think any one would seriously
have anything bad to say about a supporters group such as Bloc 5
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This thread should have died a quick death long ago, i mean
seriously sydneyphoenix was advocating that we sign aaron lines
(that's enough in it's self), then he went on to say the ryan
nelson and simon elliot won't play for ricky herbert, well they
haven't actually been given the chance through club commitments and
injury to say no.
so i think after we have all told sydneyphoenix that he has
some funny ideas, we can just drop this discussion, there are much
more productive things to be doing.
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always quite liked lines in an all white's shirt and wondered why
he fell out of the picture. he had an excellent confed
cup in mexico (as did boucken) and then just seemed to fade away.
you'd think with the lack of left sided players in the all
whites, he might have picked up a few more games over the
years.
does anyone know why he fell off the national team
scene?
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great post crosby
yeah, that bloc 5 call was way offside. despite being a fever founder, i'm keen to see the bloc represent at the ring of fire this season. they are and always will bbe icons of new zealand sport
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always quite liked lines in an all white's shirt and wondered why
he fell out of the picture. he had an excellent confed
cup in mexico (as did boucken) and then just seemed to fade away.
you'd think with the lack of left sided players in the all
whites, he might have picked up a few more games over the
years.
does anyone know why he fell off the national team
scene?
he just seemed to vanish...its a bit sad, although i would say it comes down to a raft of things. my guess is his club situations past and present may have gone against him ie: where hes played, what hes done etc.
then again we dont know whats happened behind closed doors
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I know a few behind closed door things, and while I only have one
side they don't reflect well on the individual in question.
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thanks HN, thats what i was hinting at
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