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Adelaide vs Phoenix Sunday December 16 7pm

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over 13 years ago

Onwards and upwards.  Meanwhile, here's my prescription for saving the season:

What I would do now is tweak the side like this:

- get Sanchez into the side in an advanced midfield position.

- I'd keep Leo at RB but with licence to get forward a lot more.  I'd keep our gameplan of attacking from wide out on the right but I'd look to overload that side to make things a bit more varied.

- I'd give Ifill a freer role nominally on the left coming inside.  This would be the same role for Fenton - either way I'd be splitting roughly 60 mins/30mins depending on who starts and who comes off the bench.  Ifill has to get into goal scoring positions and I would be encouraging both him and Fenton to start making runs beyond the strikers.  I'd pretty much free Ifill up from defending - he'd be the link and has to be the guy we're looking to play to quickly out of defence.  Same with Fenton.  Both would be instructed to sweep in behind the front two from the left and play the  ball out right quickly when we attack, where Brockie and Leo overlapping would try and overload the opposition fullback

- I'd look for another midfielder in the transfer window to play along side Muscat at the base of our midfield.  The emphasis would be on someone who could pass the ball both short and long.  I know this is a stretch but this is really important.  Doesn't have to be a super star but needs to be able to get the ball under control and use it.  Use the money freed up after Pavlovic has gone if necessary - I think we're ok up front.  If all else fails I would consider Clapham, it's a bit desperate but desperate time and all that

- Muscat's job would be solely to defend and with Leo bombing on he may have to cover wide right from time to time - that's fine he's comfortable out there.  Crucially, I'd take the responsibility for "playmaking" off him.  His passing isn't good enough - I'd instruct him to receive the ball and look to move it on more quickly to Ifill, Steyn and Sanchez and Mr X in midfield, all of whom should be looking to receive the ball quickly and then get it wide and try and isolate fullbacks

- I'd be looking for a way to get Alex Smith off the books.  He's just not good enough as an import to hold down a place in the squad.  There must be a kiwi or an aussie who can do what he does (I'm not even sure what that is by the way).  I think he's really limited player

Overall, we'd still be direct but direct in a little bit more thoughtful way.  We're not Barcelona so it's not going to be about lots of possession deep.  Lots of vertical passes but all done a bit quicker and with less balls in the air and when we break break quickly and try and isolate the fullbacks.  Higher tempo and try and force mistakes rather than playing balls in the air or behind full backs which are easy to defend

Normo's coming home

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If I recall correctly, Smith qualifies for Australian residency soon, which means he won't be an import for much longer. I think he would be a useful squad player, as long as he doesn't fill one of those import slots. 

I don't share your overall negativity about what is happening at the moment, but completely agree with you on how we can improve. Hmm.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago

james dean wrote:

Onwards and upwards.  Meanwhile, here's my prescription for saving the season:

What I would do now is tweak the side like this:

- get Sanchez into the side in an advanced midfield position.

- I'd keep Leo at RB but with licence to get forward a lot more.  I'd keep our gameplan of attacking from wide out on the right but I'd look to overload that side to make things a bit more varied.

- I'd give Ifill a freer role nominally on the left coming inside.  This would be the same role for Fenton - either way I'd be splitting roughly 60 mins/30mins depending on who starts and who comes off the bench.  Ifill has to get into goal scoring positions and I would be encouraging both him and Fenton to start making runs beyond the strikers.  I'd pretty much free Ifill up from defending - he'd be the link and has to be the guy we're looking to play to quickly out of defence.  Same with Fenton.  Both would be instructed to sweep in behind the front two from the left and play the  ball out right quickly when we attack, where Brockie and Leo overlapping would try and overload the opposition fullback

- I'd look for another midfielder in the transfer window to play along side Muscat at the base of our midfield.  The emphasis would be on someone who could pass the ball both short and long.  I know this is a stretch but this is really important.  Use the money freed up after Pavlovic has gone if necessary - I think we're ok up front.  If all else fails I would consider Clapham, it's a bit desperate but desperate time and all that

- Muscat's job would be solely to defend and with Leo bombing on he may have to cover wide right from time to time - that's fine he's comfortable out there.  Crucially, I'd take the responsibility for "playmaking" off him.  His passing isn't good enough - I'd instruct him to receive the ball and look to move it on more quickly to Ifill, Steyn and Sanchez and Mr X in midfield, all of whom should be looking to receive the ball quickly and then get it wide and try and isolate fullbacks

- I'd be looking for a way to get Alex Smith off the books.  He's just not good enough as an import to hold down a place in the squad.  There must be a kiwi or an aussie who can do what he does (I'm not even sure what that is by the way).  I think he's really limited player

Overall, we'd still be direct but direct in a little bit more thoughtful way.  We're not Barcelona so it's not going to be about lots of possession deep.  Lots of vertical passes but all done a bit quicker and with less balls in the air and when we break break quickly and try and isolate the fullbacks.



I agree with pretty much everything you've got on that list JD.

What surprises me is how conservative your prescription is, given how critical you usually are of Herbert.

If I look at that list and take away things that Herbert simply can't control like injuries (Sanchez) and a chronic lack of form from his star player (Ifill) then all you are really offering that's different is "get Alex Smith off the books and replace him with a playmaking midfielder" plus some minor tactical tweaking.

Yes, you can obviously say that Herbert should have recruited better in the midfield in the first place, and I would agree, but neither of us know what kind of constraints were even put on that. I do remember that Smith was made to wait a long time to re-sign for another year so I'm pretty sure they did take a serious look out there and couldn't come up with anything better. Money almost certainly came into it and again that's not something Herbert can directly control.

And throwing Clapham's name in there is by your own admission just  desperate and, to be honest, if you are effectively saying that Clapham is better than Smith and would make a positive difference in mid-field then that's a highly subjective statement and I think a lot of people would dispute that.

Is the lack of any radical change in your post a tacit admission that Herbert is actually doing a pretty good job within the constraints he has?


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over 13 years ago · edited over 13 years ago · History

james dean wrote:

Onwards and upwards.  Meanwhile, here's my prescription for saving the season:

What I would do now is tweak the side like this:

- get Sanchez into the side in an advanced midfield position.

- I'd keep Leo at RB but with licence to get forward a lot more.  I'd keep our gameplan of attacking from wide out on the right but I'd look to overload that side to make things a bit more varied.

- I'd give Ifill a freer role nominally on the left coming inside.  This would be the same role for Fenton - either way I'd be splitting roughly 60 mins/30mins depending on who starts and who comes off the bench.  Ifill has to get into goal scoring positions and I would be encouraging both him and Fenton to start making runs beyond the strikers.  I'd pretty much free Ifill up from defending - he'd be the link and has to be the guy we're looking to play to quickly out of defence.  Same with Fenton.  Both would be instructed to sweep in behind the front two from the left and play the  ball out right quickly when we attack, where Brockie and Leo overlapping would try and overload the opposition fullback

- I'd look for another midfielder in the transfer window to play along side Muscat at the base of our midfield.  The emphasis would be on someone who could pass the ball both short and long.  I know this is a stretch but this is really important.  Doesn't have to be a super star but needs to be able to get the ball under control and use it.  Use the money freed up after Pavlovic has gone if necessary - I think we're ok up front.  If all else fails I would consider Clapham, it's a bit desperate but desperate time and all that

- Muscat's job would be solely to defend and with Leo bombing on he may have to cover wide right from time to time - that's fine he's comfortable out there.  Crucially, I'd take the responsibility for "playmaking" off him.  His passing isn't good enough - I'd instruct him to receive the ball and look to move it on more quickly to Ifill, Steyn and Sanchez and Mr X in midfield, all of whom should be looking to receive the ball quickly and then get it wide and try and isolate fullbacks

- I'd be looking for a way to get Alex Smith off the books.  He's just not good enough as an import to hold down a place in the squad.  There must be a kiwi or an aussie who can do what he does (I'm not even sure what that is by the way).  I think he's really limited player

Overall, we'd still be direct but direct in a little bit more thoughtful way.  We're not Barcelona so it's not going to be about lots of possession deep.  Lots of vertical passes but all done a bit quicker and with less balls in the air and when we break break quickly and try and isolate the fullbacks.  Higher tempo and try and force mistakes rather than playing balls in the air or behind full backs which are easy to defend


I think it's funny JD that although I completely disagree with you on the big picture (doom and gloom v. optimism), I agree almost completely on how to improve the side.  I disagree that Sanchez is the long term answer for the attacking midfielder, and I think Bertos gets up and down plenty, but other than that spot on.  Smith isn't good enough as an import, nor really as a starting midfielder if we are to keep Muscat as we should.  During the offseason I have said we need a creative midfielder import that can receive the ball and distribute, preferably also with the ability to play a decisive pass, as I think we have the back line and the front line of a very good side, but with a complete inability to link the two via anything but long ball/quick direct counter - and nothing I have seen so far this season changes that.

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over 13 years ago

Agree also T-X

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over 13 years ago

patrick478 wrote:

If I recall correctly, Smith qualifies for Australian residency soon, which means he won't be an import for much longer. I think he would be a useful squad player, as long as he doesn't fill one of those import slots. 


Was this ever confirmed? How would this be possible given that he's been living in New Zealand?
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over 13 years ago

If memory serves me correctly, I don't think he lived in nz (or at least Wellington) during the offseason. So maybe if he was living in Australia during the offseason, that'd be enough?


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over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

If memory serves me correctly, I don't think he lived in nz (or at least Wellington) during the offseason. So maybe if he was living in Australia during the offseason, that'd be enough?


I don't know for sure but I'd be very surprised if that was enough.

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over 13 years ago

Yeah same, but its the only way i can think of that'd work. 


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over 13 years ago

Agree with most said above...

 

And I'm nervous about this game...

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over 13 years ago

He needs to live in Australia for a certain number of days per year, and living there in the offseason satisfies that condition. Also, I remember his visa expired the week after the A-League GF, and that may have been due to the residency requirement.


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over 13 years ago

One case where the ridiculously long offseason is good I guess. 


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over 13 years ago

terminator_x wrote:

james dean wrote:

Onwards and upwards.  Meanwhile, here's my prescription for saving the season:

What I would do now is tweak the side like this:

- get Sanchez into the side in an advanced midfield position.

- I'd keep Leo at RB but with licence to get forward a lot more.  I'd keep our gameplan of attacking from wide out on the right but I'd look to overload that side to make things a bit more varied.

- I'd give Ifill a freer role nominally on the left coming inside.  This would be the same role for Fenton - either way I'd be splitting roughly 60 mins/30mins depending on who starts and who comes off the bench.  Ifill has to get into goal scoring positions and I would be encouraging both him and Fenton to start making runs beyond the strikers.  I'd pretty much free Ifill up from defending - he'd be the link and has to be the guy we're looking to play to quickly out of defence.  Same with Fenton.  Both would be instructed to sweep in behind the front two from the left and play the  ball out right quickly when we attack, where Brockie and Leo overlapping would try and overload the opposition fullback

- I'd look for another midfielder in the transfer window to play along side Muscat at the base of our midfield.  The emphasis would be on someone who could pass the ball both short and long.  I know this is a stretch but this is really important.  Use the money freed up after Pavlovic has gone if necessary - I think we're ok up front.  If all else fails I would consider Clapham, it's a bit desperate but desperate time and all that

- Muscat's job would be solely to defend and with Leo bombing on he may have to cover wide right from time to time - that's fine he's comfortable out there.  Crucially, I'd take the responsibility for "playmaking" off him.  His passing isn't good enough - I'd instruct him to receive the ball and look to move it on more quickly to Ifill, Steyn and Sanchez and Mr X in midfield, all of whom should be looking to receive the ball quickly and then get it wide and try and isolate fullbacks

- I'd be looking for a way to get Alex Smith off the books.  He's just not good enough as an import to hold down a place in the squad.  There must be a kiwi or an aussie who can do what he does (I'm not even sure what that is by the way).  I think he's really limited player

Overall, we'd still be direct but direct in a little bit more thoughtful way.  We're not Barcelona so it's not going to be about lots of possession deep.  Lots of vertical passes but all done a bit quicker and with less balls in the air and when we break break quickly and try and isolate the fullbacks.



I agree with pretty much everything you've got on that list JD.

What surprises me is how conservative your prescription is, given how critical you usually are of Herbert.

If I look at that list and take away things that Herbert simply can't control like injuries (Sanchez) and a chronic lack of form from his star player (Ifill) then all you are really offering that's different is "get Alex Smith off the books and replace him with a playmaking midfielder" plus some minor tactical tweaking.

Yes, you can obviously say that Herbert should have recruited better in the midfield in the first place, and I would agree, but neither of us know what kind of constraints were even put on that. I do remember that Smith was made to wait a long time to re-sign for another year so I'm pretty sure they did take a serious look out there and couldn't come up with anything better. Money almost certainly came into it and again that's not something Herbert can directly control.

And throwing Clapham's name in there is by your own admission just  desperate and, to be honest, if you are effectively saying that Clapham is better than Smith and would make a positive difference in mid-field then that's a highly subjective statement and I think a lot of people would dispute that.

Is the lack of any radical change in your post a tacit admission that Herbert is actually doing a pretty good job within the constraints he has?


I've watched Clapham a lot and definitely think he'd be better than Smith. He's more accurate at passes, freekicks and has more ball control in goal scoring opportunities. Also think Tade is the best finisher in the country at the moment. Too often Herbert seems to be more about picking his favourites, not the best players for the positions. I think he's holding the Phoenix back.

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over 13 years ago

Again, Tade is an import. He is also only a 20min footballer. How is that going to benefit us? Granted its not much better than Totori I guess... I don't think Tade has the pace for the A League anyway. At least Totori has that. Someone just needs to teach him how to play now.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

If memory serves me correctly, I don't think he lived in nz (or at least Wellington) during the offseason. So maybe if he was living in Australia during the offseason, that'd be enough?

Thought I would just ask the man himself.

Alex Smith ?@al_smith

@Ryans_Rovers I'm close man...just got granted my permanent residency las week...think I have to hold that for 12 months...working on it
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over 13 years ago

Manny and smith deep mid

Brockie right, Iffy middle and Fenton left. Giving Iffy quite a free role.

Waffles up top

Leo and lochy a license to bomb.

Our current three mids ain't gonna score in my lifetime..

Founder

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over 13 years ago

Yeah assume that he still has a residnce in Aus. Plus can probably go there in offseason.

Still means he is 12 months out from losing the import status... time is ticking...


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over 13 years ago

Feverish wrote:

Manny and smith deep mid

Brockie right, Iffy middle and Fenton left. Giving Iffy quite a free role.

Waffles up top

Leo and lochy a license to bomb.

Our current three mids ain't gonna score in my lifetime..


+1
Sack Ricki, appoint Feverish (with JD as DoF).

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

Genuine opinion: FTFFA

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over 13 years ago

I agree with what you say JD but I don't think we are going to see any major changes both in starting personel or tactics this season. Maybe Rickie might tinker with the front guys...get Sanchez in there but realistically who else in this squad would change things up?. Fenton and Boyd have looked lively when they come on but they both are just kids...in their development stage. Both have been guilty of wasting scoring opportunities. I would rather chances on goals went to Steiny or Brockie....OK they both have also blazed shots wide but percentage wise they are our best bets.

The trouble with getting Sanchez in is it will take him a while to get up to match speed. Don't expect big things from him straight up. I do like the prospect of him and Steiny linking up though.

I can't believe that some of the press are calling for Steiny to be dropped because he has been ineffective....what bollocks. He was our best player against WS. He is technically the best forward we have had(IMO) You could build your attack around him if you had the right players and tactics. Its not his fault the midfield couldn't pass wind! He spent much of the Sydney game with his arm in the air begging for the ball....

Realisticaly Rickie is more likely to be MORE conservative going to Adelaide. He is NOT going to sign Clapham, he is not going to change his approach. We have been watching him coach for six years now. Does anyone really expect that anything will change that much?

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over 13 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

Again, Tade is an import. He is also only a 20min footballer. How is that going to benefit us? Granted its not much better than Totori I guess... I don't think Tade has the pace for the A League anyway. At least Totori has that. Someone just needs to teach him how to play now.

Have to disagree JV, I think full time training would soon get Tade up to speed. His strike rate on goal to opportunities is better than anyone else in the ASBP and although he looks a bit languid in his running style he's deceptively fast and I've noticed he has a good positional sense and sets himself up well. Would much prefer him to Totori or even Brockie.

He's a 20 minute impact footballer because the defensive-minded coach at ACFC only usually plays him as a late sub. He and Corrales changed ACFC's forward momentum when they came on in the CWC against Hiroshima. Anyway I don't want him to leave ACFC because he's our most potent attacking option. At least he focuses up field at the opposing goal when he gets the ball rather than half our team who look back to our keeper, even if they're past half way.

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austin10 wrote:

I agree with what you say JD but I don't think we are going to see any major changes both in starting personel or tactics this season. Maybe Rickie might tinker with the front guys...get Sanchez in there but realistically who else in this squad would change things up?. Fenton and Boyd have looked lively when they come on but they both are just kids...in their development stage. Both have been guilty of wasting scoring opportunities. I would rather chances on goals went to Steiny or Brockie....OK they both have also blazed shots wide but percentage wise they are our best bets.

The trouble with getting Sanchez in is it will take him a while to get up to match speed. Don't expect big things from him straight up. I do like the prospect of him and Steiny linking up though.

I can't believe that some of the press are calling for Steiny to be dropped because he has been ineffective....what bollocks. He was our best player against WS. He is technically the best forward we have had(IMO) You could build your attack around him if you had the right players and tactics. Its not his fault the midfield couldn't pass wind! He spent much of the Sydney game with his arm in the air begging for the ball....

Realisticaly Rickie is more likely to be MORE conservative going to Adelaide. He is NOT going to sign Clapham, he is not going to change his approach. We have been watching him coach for six years now. Does anyone really expect that anything will change that much?

There are comfort zones and then there are comfort traps. Like Arsenal with Wenger, I think the Phoenix are in a rut because of the limited ability of their "safe" coach. He's too stubborn for me because Ricki tends to replace like with like. As you say, he'll tinker but not change anything. After six years of basically mediocracy, it's time for a shakeup. You loyal Phoenix supporters deserve better.

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over 13 years ago

The biggest problem we have right now is that several senior players, such as Muscat and Ifill, are just in terrible form.

Even journeymen like Lia and Smith are playing nowhere near their potential.

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terminator_x wrote:

What surprises me is how conservative your prescription is, given how critical you usually are of Herbert.


If I look at that list and take away things that Herbert simply can't control like injuries (Sanchez) and a chronic lack of form from his star player (Ifill) then all you are really offering that's different is "get Alex Smith off the books and replace him with a playmaking midfielder" plus some minor tactical tweaking.

Yes, you can obviously say that Herbert should have recruited better in the midfield in the first place, and I would agree, but neither of us know what kind of constraints were even put on that. I do remember that Smith was made to wait a long time to re-sign for another year so I'm pretty sure they did take a serious look out there and couldn't come up with anything better. Money almost certainly came into it and again that's not something Herbert can directly control.

And throwing Clapham's name in there is by your own admission just  desperate and, to be honest, if you are effectively saying that Clapham is better than Smith and would make a positive difference in mid-field then that's a highly subjective statement and I think a lot of people would dispute that.

Is the lack of any radical change in your post a tacit admission that Herbert is actually doing a pretty good job within the constraints he has?



 
I'm suggesting what I'd do with the players available as they are now - and something that is actually achievable.

This is not just where you play the players, it's actually about a plan for how to play which differs right now from our so called "tactics".  Compared to what we're currently doing this would be quite a significant change of approach so I disagree that it is minor tactical tweaking.  I'd also note that Sanchez was available on the weekend and not included in the squad.  Right now we look like a team that hasn't been coached - this would aim to do something about that.

The stuff you've written on Smith is just rubbish.  We've not had a single suggestion that Ricky is unhappy with any of the funds allocated, or any other so called constraints ultimately he has to take responsibility for players signed on his watch.  That includes re-signing Lia then wanting to play him at RB, then now deciding he's a starting central midfielder.  You're just making up excuses for why he signed a player patently not good enough.  You're now just making up excuses for why he signed a player patently not good enough.

I'm suggesting Clapham because (a) he's kiwi therefore we can sign him and (b) he'd fit within the cap space of Pavlovic.  Right now our midfield isn't working and that needs addressing.  I don't think it can be done from within our current squad.

"Is the lack of any radical change in your post a tacit admission that Herbert is actually doing a pretty good job within the constraints he has?"

Of course not.  Any constraints Herbert has are one he has inflicted on himself.  He signed these players, he is the one picking the team and he is the one who has got us into this mess (and let's be clear this is a mess - I pity whoever has to take over next season).  The guy has clearly run out of ideas but at least if we do this we might salvage something from the season possibly.

I ask you this, what "constraints" could you possibly think Herbert has?  He has the full salary cap available

Normo's coming home

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over 13 years ago

Get rid of Ricki and we might finally get rid of the deadwood he signs and re-signs year after year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 13 years ago

Or we might be someone like Crook who hires donkeys.

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over 13 years ago

Some good signings this year. Which is coincidentally the first year since terry. Just putting that little coincidence out there. 


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over 13 years ago

2ndBest wrote:

Or we might be someone like Crook who hires donkeys.

I know this is a long shot and I still wish he was in charge at ACFC, but maybe the Phoenix should look at Paul Posa as a replacement for Herbert. A very likeable Kiwi who is a great player manager, got the best out of exciting young talents like Jason Haynes and above all pulled off two fine results at the 2009 Club Wolrd Cup against better professional opposition. He fashioned a part-time team into a good entertaining offensive outfit who scored a lot of goals and he comes across well in the media. I believe he could step up to the A League. Just a thought.

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over 13 years ago

hey offtopic but dont know where to ask and didnt think it worth a new thread


where can one get retro ricki t shirts online? Or in stores? Or are they only available at the start of the season? And can you buy past season ones at all?


The FAQ thread seems to have gone, i think there was an answer in there


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over 13 years ago

Phil has done a limited run of 12 Retro Ricki's and has them in RYOS now.  

He also has some old stock of other tees from previous seasons.  Try http://www.ryos.co.nz or pop in and see them at Queensgate or Lambton Quay.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 13 years ago

Trueblue wrote:

I've watched Clapham a lot and definitely think he'd be better than Smith. He's more accurate at passes, freekicks and has more ball control in goal scoring opportunities.


Dear Mrs Clapham.
Did you ever watch your son playing for the All Whites?
If so, please check spectacle prescription and re-watch...
Regards,
You're Crazy.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 13 years ago

Tegal wrote:

Some good signings this year. Which is coincidentally the first year since terry. Just putting that little coincidence out there. 


Don't think this analysis stacks up:
Good signings this year: Huysegems, Fenton, Brockie, Moss.
Good signings during the Terry era: Muscat, Sigmund, Durante, Paston, Moss, Rojas, Barbarouses, and on and on.
Last year was a bit of a fk up all around don't forget, so this year was bound to be better.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 13 years ago

james dean wrote:

Of course not.  Any constraints Herbert has are one he has inflicted on himself.  He signed these players, he is the one picking the team and he is the one who has got us into this mess (and let's be clear this is a mess - I pity whoever has to take over next season).  The guy has clearly run out of ideas but at least if we do this we might salvage something from the season possibly.


This seems to be our main area of disagreement. Yes, Sunday was awful, but how much of a mess is it really? We are in a play-off spot, equal best ever start to the season and we haven't even played well yet. Has Herbert really run out of ideas or is he just managing around injuries and poor form like every other coach?

Obviously the whole outcome of this season depends on whether this is as good as it gets - in which case we probably miss the play-offs, or whether there is the potential and likelihood for improvement - in which case we are well placed.

Are you a pessimist or an optimist? No need to answer.
 


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over 13 years ago

Fair enough. I meant more in relation to bad signings and dead wood though. The troublesome years are when ricki signed a lot of those guys, now that welnix are here, the signings this year have been good. 


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over 13 years ago

Simon Hampton @simonhampton9

Jeremy Brockie in doubt for trip to Adelaide with a hamstring injury. #phoenix

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over 13 years ago

Ryan's Rovers wrote:

Simon Hampton @simonhampton9

Jeremy Brockie in doubt for trip to Adelaide with a hamstring injury. #phoenix

Just what we need...

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago

Wonder if it is the same injury concern that Sigmund and Fenton had.

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over 13 years ago

Sunday, December 16
Adelaide United v Wellington Phoenix
Venue: Hindmarsh Stadium
Kick off: 4:30PM
Referee: Strebre Delovski
Assistant referee 1: Daniel Goodwin
Assistant referee 2: Stephen Toth
Fourth official: Regis Queffelec

At least we have the best ref in the league for the match

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over 13 years ago

I don't think they had a choice, considering what happened last time.


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 13 years ago

Agreed, although when does Logic and common sense influence what the FFA do?

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