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Ben Sigmund - MRP persecution

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ard Righ wrote:
hepatitis wrote:
Club not appealing.


That's a ridiculous decision.


they have to pay sh*t loads to appeal, and if they lose they have to pay more. (that's how it used to work anyway)
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I thought there was a cost if you appealed, if you were successful it got reduced, if not the ban was extended. But no extra cost if it was unsuccessful.simon_hampton2009-12-08 17:55:48
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
without reading all this - what minute was this in, and is it on youtube?

Founder

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Look up nostrokeeper on youtube, he has highlights its in there maybe about 3 mins in.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Obvioiusly the club doesn't think they will reduce the ban so they aren't going to appeal. Fair enough.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Welcome back Jon. Don't get injured please
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Crux of the matter was Siggy behaved badly and copped the 3-match ban.
 
Captain was right in calling for discipline from players and set a good example to other footballers.
 
If you get beaten by opposing palyer, don't lash out or hurt her or pastoral chop him. Be disciplined, admire opposing player's skill and go back to the drawing board and work even harder. Otherwise, go and play another sport.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Funny how most people are blaming the commentators etc.
What a lod of crap. How about blaming Sigmund for being a w**ker and letting his team mates and supporters down.
One should take responsibity for ones actions.
It make me want to throw up?

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't think the use of w**ker is necessary.simon_hampton2009-12-08 22:22:16
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
simon_hampton wrote:
I don't think the use of w**ker is necessary.

Being fair is not letting your mates down, which he has.
I think he is a w**ker.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's Leggy.  At his advanced years sarcasm and humour can fly over his head, but we love the cantankerous old bloke anyway.

He's like that granddad that goes off on sudden swear laden rants and then comes back down afterwards.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
It's Leggy.� At his advanced years sarcasm and humour can fly over his head, but we love the cantankerous old bloke anyway.He's like that granddad that goes off on sudden swear laden rants and then comes back down afterwards.



I do get off my soap=box quickly, but I do get annoyed whem people make excuses for players who have 'cheated', or if you prefer are thugs.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
It's Leggy.  At his advanced years sarcasm and humour can fly over his head, but we love the cantankerous old bloke anyway.

He's like that granddad that goes off on sudden swear laden rants and then comes back down afterwards.
 
You mean Alf Garnett??
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
Hard News wrote:
It's Leggy.� At his advanced years sarcasm and humour can fly over his head, but we love the cantankerous old bloke anyway.He's like that granddad that goes off on sudden swear laden rants and then comes back down afterwards.

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You mean Alf Garnett??


Not that old

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Leggy wrote:
Funny how most people are blaming the commentators etc.
What a lod of crap. How about blaming Sigmund for being a w**ker and letting his team mates and supporters down.
One should take responsibity for ones actions.
It make me want to throw up?
 
Is that really a question?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Leggy wrote:
Hard News wrote:
It's Leggy.  At his advanced years sarcasm and humour can fly over his head, but we love the cantankerous old bloke anyway.He's like that granddad that goes off on sudden swear laden rants and then comes back down afterwards.



I do get off my soap=box quickly, but I do get annoyed whem people make excuses for players who have 'cheated', or if you prefer are thugs.
 
Hugs for thugs
 
If Siggy had ripped Leijer's head right off and mounted it on the wall I'd still love him to bits. A little bit of the pleasure I get from watching the Nix will be missing for the next 3 weeks.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah, no point moaning about this one. If someone twatted one of our players in the mouth no matter how half-heartedly we'd be screaming for a ban and probably boo every touch they make next time. Just hope Durante doesn't get another card.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I just find it ridiculous that Leijer can blatantly headbutt Sigmund's fist like that, then have Siggy punished for it!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
chocnut wrote:
Yeah, no point moaning about this one. If someone twatted one of our players in the mouth no matter how half-heartedly we'd be screaming for a ban and probably boo every touch they make next time. Just hope Durante doesn't get another card.
 
the amount of whinging and bitching that went on here when Kruse fouled Bertos a few months ago was embarrassing.  Sure, we all hate Kruse and all that but there was absolutely no perspective and people were calling for 3 match bans depsite the fact that it was only a booking.  Now one of our players does something which is always going to be deemed as worse (punching is always seen as worse on a football field as there is no way to argue it - a bad tackle can just be mistimed, a player can slip while going into it, etc) and everyone is now complaining that the whole world is against us.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree, the punch was blatant, unneccessery and uncalled for, our sport is not rugby so lets move on.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Frankie Mac wrote:
chocnut wrote:
Yeah, no point moaning about this one. If someone twatted one of our players in the mouth no matter how half-heartedly we'd be screaming for a ban and probably boo every touch they make next time. Just hope Durante doesn't get another card.
 
the amount of whinging and bitching that went on here when Kruse fouled Bertos a few months ago was embarrassing.  Sure, we all hate Kruse and all that but there was absolutely no perspective and people were calling for 3 match bans depsite the fact that it was only a booking.  Now one of our players does something which is always going to be deemed as worse (punching is always seen as worse on a football field as there is no way to argue it - a bad tackle can just be mistimed, a player can slip while going into it, etc) and everyone is now complaining that the whole world is against us.


Kruse's tackle was an act of savagery that merited a red card.  As for Siggy's punch, yeah it was stupid and what a dumbarse thing to do.  In all honesty, while I think Siggy did that on purpose, that type of thing can easily happen when jostling for a corner so it's still feeling like a rough punishment.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
So, what caused it ? 

I mean Siggy is the most laid back person in the world and for him to smack someone he has been provoked, but I guess as the TV cameras missed it and our 'biased' commentators didn't talk it up that will be ignored.


HN, you know more than anyone a punch is a punch no matter what. If Leijer or anyone else had said soemthing than Sigmund should not have punched him.

The Sky commentators picked up on the punch and basically said "the FFA will look into it no doubt"

They can't do much more than that.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
loyalgunner wrote:
Frankie Mac wrote:
chocnut wrote:
Yeah, no point moaning about this one. If someone twatted one of our players in the mouth no matter how half-heartedly we'd be screaming for a ban and probably boo every touch they make next time. Just hope Durante doesn't get another card.
 
the amount of whinging and bitching that went on here when Kruse fouled Bertos a few months ago was embarrassing.  Sure, we all hate Kruse and all that but there was absolutely no perspective and people were calling for 3 match bans depsite the fact that it was only a booking.  Now one of our players does something which is always going to be deemed as worse (punching is always seen as worse on a football field as there is no way to argue it - a bad tackle can just be mistimed, a player can slip while going into it, etc) and everyone is now complaining that the whole world is against us.


Kruse's tackle was an act of savagery that merited a red card.  As for Siggy's punch, yeah it was stupid and what a dumbarse thing to do.  In all honesty, while I think Siggy did that on purpose, that type of thing can easily happen when jostling for a corner so it's still feeling like a rough punishment.
 
Really????
 
You honestly think that Kruse was lucky to get away with a terrible challenge, and Siggy was unlucky????
 
Jesus.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
People should never compare the Kruse and Sigmund incident
 
1: The Kruse incident was dealth with at the time on the field. Rightfully or (as most agree) wrongfully he got a yellow card for this. I think the majority agree he should have had a straight red meaning two weeks.
2: Siggys punch was not dealt with on field. Had it been so, he would have a red and a penalty, meaning a 2 match ban for straight red and a penalty.
 
Either way, regardless of force or intent, they have no place in the game.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Frankie Mac wrote:
chocnut wrote:
Yeah, no point moaning about this one. If someone twatted one of our players in the mouth no matter how half-heartedly we'd be screaming for a ban and probably boo every touch they make next time. Just hope Durante doesn't get another card.
 
the amount of whinging and bitching that went on here when Kruse fouled Bertos a few months ago was embarrassing.  Sure, we all hate Kruse and all that but there was absolutely no perspective and people were calling for 3 match bans depsite the fact that it was only a booking.  Now one of our players does something which is always going to be deemed as worse (punching is always seen as worse on a football field as there is no way to argue it - a bad tackle can just be mistimed, a player can slip while going into it, etc) and everyone is now complaining that the whole world is against us.


I whinged and bitched at Kruse coz it was a f**king atrocious tackle, and did deserve three weeks, it was worse to me than Sigmunds punch, but I definitely agree with you that those that did that and are now defending Sigmund are hypocrites.  He punched the bloke, got caught, time to move on. (Although he didn't deserve a week more than Miller, but thats another story.)
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hepatitis wrote:

Rant - someone needs to find the mute button for Dewhurst generally, he carries on as if it is radio, its not , its TV, we can see it Andrew!! - rant over
 
Feel free to keep on ranting - Dewhurst is a boring twat
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Piney for sky coverage!!!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
People should never compare the Kruse and Sigmund incident
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1: The Kruse incident was dealth with at the time on the field. Rightfully or (as most agree) wrongfully he got a yellow card for this. I think the majority agree he should have had a straight red meaning two weeks.

2: Siggys punch was not dealt with on field. Had it been so, he would have a red and a penalty, meaning a 2 match ban for straight red and a penalty.

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Either way, regardless of force or intent, they have no place in the game.


Summed it up exactly

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steptoe wrote:
hepatitis wrote:

Rant - someone needs to find the mute button for Dewhurst generally, he carries on as if it is radio, its not , its TV, we can see it Andrew!! - rant over
 
Feel free to keep on ranting - Dewhurst is a boring twat
 
I second that. Does he think he's doing a radio commentary of a Rugby game?
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't think Dewhurst's too bad. Certainly a long, long way from the worst I've heard (SBS and Setanta have some absolute plonkers).
 
Don't know how Jason Pine would go as a TV commentator but the radio boys are excellent - they really bring the game alive. Which reminds me, David Chote provoked paroxysms of barely suppressed schoolboy giggling in the commentary box last week by declaring that the highly irritating Michael Hester "loves to stick it in his mouth and blow it".
 
Which is all a bit off topic, sorry.
 
 
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
StopOut wrote:
I don't think Dewhurst's too bad. Certainly a long, long way from the worst I've heard (SBS and Setanta have some absolute plonkers).
 
Don't know how Jason Pine would go as a TV commentator but the radio boys are excellent - they really bring the game alive. Which reminds me, David Chote provoked paroxysms of barely suppressed schoolboy giggling in the commentary box last week by declaring that the highly irritating Michael Hester "loves to stick it in his mouth and blow it".
 
Which is all a bit off topic, sorry.
 
Wouldn't worry about it.  Better than the actual topic.

14/11/09

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