watch totori goals
too gooood!!
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Should think carfully about this last two spots. Apparntly Rickis
already signed them but no leaking them out till a little later.
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Should think carfully about this last two spots. Apparntly Rickis
already signed them but no leaking them out till a little
later.
Not signed them yet, he's still talking to players.
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Some of that footage aint too shabby. Although the defending
was awful. Man Youtube is brilliant. Hopefully YF will take cameras
to the WPFC games and post stuff online so I can view it in
the UK.
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Some of that footage aint too shabby. Although the defending
was awful. Man Youtube is brilliant. Hopefully YF will take cameras
to the WPFC games and post stuff online so I can view it in
the UK.
going by that footage Phoenix should look at Totori AND
Maemae!!
too fast and touch is too deft for NZFC
yep, youtube has got EVERYTHING huh!
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Exactly. Sir Les.
The Phoenix shouldn't be seen as a place to test players, but
rather as a team that needs to win games. If players ffel they are
up to it, and they have demonstrated a level of skill,
determination etc. . that is acceptale then they should push
themselves to be noticed or signed. I thinnk there's a subtle
difference here. i.e.
1. We should use the club to test players out (not a god idea,
imo)
2. The best players from the next league down should be given
an opportunity to prove themsleves
Maybe the discussion is just about scemantics though. .
.. However I do agree with you, it is about the players
proving themsleves, as opposed to beign using the club to "test
them out". I guess it's just an attitude thing. One approach holds
the club in the highest esteem, the other holds the player in the
highest esteem.
Rightly, the NZFC is a place for local talent to display their
worth and aspire to a higher level of competition. However that
does not mean that the Nix is obliged to give these players a go.
Like any pro club, they will sign someone for their own reasons, to
fill an immediate need or to plan for the future. They should only
sign players that they think will achieve this for them. Having an
A League club in NZ means our local players have a better chance to
show their worth in places like the NZFC and also makes it easier
for our A League club to evaluate that talent on a week in, week
out basis. Then I'm not telling most of you on here anything you
don't already know. 
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put it this way if we DIDN'T sign him it shows we have no faith in
the NZFC bringing up quality players. its almost like what the
point in having it?
If Totori was a Kiwi I'd agreed - he's not - could be given a
trial but I can't see him taking an import slot
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with totori being a striker which the phoenix should have plenty of
he woulde get no game time eg. barabarouses coveny (if signed)
brockie (if signed) the brazilian striker ive heard so much
about.thats plenty so totori would be a waste of an import spot
better making use of the import spots.
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Ye lets just stop talking about Totori caz he ant coming i talked
to him yesterday and hes going back home to be in the army. I SAY
SIGN A GREEK!!!! After all they are EUROPEAN CHAMPS
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Interesting posts from 5 years ago!
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He was terrible last night.
OK, hit the woodwork, but apart from that, he was slow and seriously not very good.
Really lacked a lot and not sure how he's going to benefit us.
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Harsh.
At no point did I think he was slow. A bit lightweight at times and a work in progress but not 'terrible'
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Needs to stay on his feet a lot more. Had a poor game but hopefully he'll get used to the standard of the league soon.
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He does contribute to the squad. I see him more of an impact sub once ifill is fit again.
Allegedly
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I think some fans were always going to bag Totori because they didn't think he should be signed in the first place but I don't think he should be criticised too much for last night's performance. He didn't do much in the second half but I think his workrate in the first half was really good - he always seemed hungry for the ball and did a lot of defensive tracking I thought. Hitting the woodwork was just one of those things, an inch inside and he would have scored on debut and people would be cheering him. Granted he went to ground too easily but he also ran at players and created space well for himself. He often harried Sydney players in possession and got something on their passes to help break up attacks. The conditions weren't the best for a player of his style last night either, the pitch was obviously slippery and he wasn't the only player who lost his footing. I think he will perform much better on a hard dry pitch, and he should get a few of those in away games this summer at least!
Anyway, he's always going to create chances and he'll probably miss a lot of them and that'll be frustrating but the net result is the same as a player who creates far less and converts a much better percentage. I think it was a better performance on the right wing than we would have seen from Leo and the two of them seemed to complement each other well both on attack and defense IMHO. Also I think that the space Ifill had when he came on was in part because the right side of Sydney's defense had been run around for an hour by Totori, and to a lesser extent Brockie and Bertos, so they were getting tired by the time Ifill came on.
I agree with Tegal - his role in the squad will be as an impact sub and I think that he may well occasionally frustrate us but he will also produce some moments of brilliance too. That's just the sort of player he is. Will definitely be good to bring on if we need an extra spark in attack when we are a goal or two down I reckon.
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He was terrible last night.
OK, hit the woodwork, but apart from that, he was slow and seriously not very good.
Really lacked a lot and not sure how he's going to benefit us.
Racist.
But seriously, thought he went ok.
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He was terrible last night.
OK, hit the woodwork, but apart from that, he was slow and seriously not very good.
Really lacked a lot and not sure how he's going to benefit us.
Racist.
But seriously, thought he went ok.
I didn't think he was too bad. I'm pretty sure he had an important role in the 1st(?) goal. Someone with the benefit of a replay might be able to confirm but I thought he helped force the turnover in midfield that ultimately resulted in a Muscats assist and Stein's cooly taken finish.
If I had to identify our worst player I would probably nominate Paston. He has little to do but I wasn't impressed when he did it. Missing punches in crosses he should be catching and generally flapping around at crosses.
To clarify I didn't think he was bad Totori and Paston were probably just the least good out of an amazing group.
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He just lacks a bit of composure. He was rushing himself a little too much i think, once he calms down he'll do fine.
And lol at whoever said he was slow. He was probably the quickest on the pitch and drew numerous fouls from opposition players who just couldnt keep up
And lol at whoever said he was slow. He was probably the quickest on the pitch and drew numerous fouls from opposition players who just couldnt keep up
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Yeah, you can say a lot of things about Totori, but saying he's slow is not one of them. Although on limited evidence I've seen of Clarke, I'd say he might be quicker than Totori.
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I thought he went well too.. he did rush some of hispasses but I thought he was quite effective at harrying and stretching Sydney's left side defence
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He was terrible last night.
OK, hit the woodwork, but apart from that, he was slow and seriously not very good.
Really lacked a lot and not sure how he's going to benefit us.
You sir, are a berk! Pull your head out of your ass and watch the man play.
He was creative, speedy, chased well, laid off some good balls and rattled the goal frame with what was very close to being a fantastic opener. Yes he got bumped around, but we knew that would happen coming in.
Jeez, you shouldn't suck so many lemons...
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
Phoenix fans. We have to win them over one fan at a time.
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Think he was poor positionally especially on defense at times, but think he'll pick it up pretty quickly.
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I'd say he was the 'least good'. But still good. A bit rough round the edges, but will only get better. He'll be our super sub, and away specialist!
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I really enjoyed watching him last night, lots of energy and eagerness and thought he made some very good runs at their defense. Though he lost the ball a few times he did make it up in winning them back. His pace is astounding a shame it can create a bit of problem with balance, but I think that will improve as will all aspects of his game as he plays more and more.
I am looking forward to more Totori.
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He just lacks a bit of composure. He was rushing himself a little too much i think, once he calms down he'll do fine.
Aye, definitely agree with this, when defenders had him from behind it looked as though he tried to outrun them but left a bit to late as they were already grabbing on to him etc. I think a lot of it will be about adjusting to the physical nature of the league. All well and good practising and being told, but actually playing it will improve his game primarily.
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*snigger*
Well yes, wouldn't you try to out run them if it was you?
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Watching him from the stadium I thought he was average, just because he went down pretty easily. Me and 5 ciders were not impressed.
But after watching the replay I have tempered my criticism somewhat. Yes he still went down too easily but imo that was the only major flaw in his game, other than that he wasn't bad. Far from perfect but not a bad start for the lad.
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Lay off the ciders next time...
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I thought he was very good. He's not a complete footballer but he will really be a handful for opposition players this year and a headache to have to plan against. He could well have sparked us into the game, our best moments at the start involved him. Yes he does make mistakes, (as does everyone else in the team) but his good moments by far outweighed the bad. People compare Rojas to Fenton, but for me Totori is a much more similar player. Fenton seems more well rounded and quite a different player.
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I think a lot of people are already forgetting it was his first game at this level. Not only in terms of opposition but the caliber of players hes playing with is a big step up from what hes used to. And considering an 'adjustment period' is somewhat expected in Benji's case i think he has started well. In fact hes already started stronger than a lot of players we've had in previous seasons (Gao, Diego, Toto, Pavlovic to name a few).
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Article makes me wonder if the A-League could have an oceania player spot for each team. Could be a kiwi or someone form any other oceania country.
Except A-League is in asia.. however when they went there, they did say they would try and keep helping the oceania confederation...
Not gonna happen
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did you see the comment underneath the article
Comments (1)
If the
Wellington Phoenix are in the A-League on behalf of the Oceania Football
Confederation, then it is their job to help develop Oceania players.
Instead they have been greedy over the last 5 years and developed New
Zealand-based players first. Some of you in the media are too easy on
the Phoenix at times!
Corey D |
9 Oct 2012 04:24 PM
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Some of you in the media are too easy on
the Phoenix at times!
Arf!
I just googled up the "Terry-steps-down-welcome--Nix-Nine" thread and was reading through it for giggles. Then saw your post GC.
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"IF the Wellington Phoenix are in the A-League on behalf of the Oceania Football Confederation...blah, blah, blah"
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Watching him from the stadium I thought he was average, just because he went down pretty easily. Me and 5 ciders were not impressed.
But after watching the replay I have tempered my criticism somewhat. Yes he still went down too easily but imo that was the only major flaw in his game, other than that he wasn't bad. Far from perfect but not a bad start for the lad.
he did win a couple of free kicks tho...
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