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Bertos.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He knows how much love he gets in here in Wellington, so to say he wants to stay in some dump 6 months after publicly saying he wanted to join the Nix is insulting! P**S OFF LEO! We'll be fine with Daniel on the wing.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

who's Bertos?
I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He's probably just saying that in case a deal with the nix falls through. Get onside with the new coach and all
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lets look at the bright side.  He would compete with Daniel and perhaps Lockhead.  Plus one more player out when AW duties call.

And after our record against Perth this year, we should encourage them to change as little as possible.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Maybe we can get a good strike partner for smeltz
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He doesn't say anything negative about the Phoenix, just that he'd want to stay with his current club. That's loyalty to his team, not betrayal to his hometown, and is not a bad thing - I'd respect anyone electing to re-sign at their team. It's merely article spin that makes him look bad.

And as Pacwarior pointed out, we've already got class left side players in Daniel and Lochhead already. Bertos is IMHO a want-to-have, not a need-to-have. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see him in black and yellow, but I'm not going to cut up my season pass if he spends another season in purple.

Plus the article says Sydney is the favourite to host the Fiji match...correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the match supposed to stay in the OFC?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He doesnt say anything - that headline is outright provocation. of course he says he staying. you dont tell 442 you're buggaring off with 4 games to play, whether you are or not. he said the only thing he could. but decided to post it bc they called him a star and bc we like 442 writing about kiwis.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Written by Jurno = Twisted words

A dog with a bone :)

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
So they win 4-2 on the weekend and he changes his mind?

He can piss off.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If he has decided to stay I am bitterly disapointed but like guys have pointed out he could just be being diplomatic. I hope thats the case, he's a versatile player and while we don't NEED him he would be a great addition and he'd quickly become a YF favourite of course.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He's one of the better players in the league and he's a kiwi, of course we want him. I can't believe how fickle and naive people are here sometimes...

Normo's coming home

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
tbh it's probably the better choice for him to stay in Perth. He's certain to start there but he has to compete with Daniel/Lochy here. He could play striker ( he links up well with Smeltz ) but I don't think that really suits him. I'd love to see him at the Nix but looking at our squad we don't really NEED him. We NEED a right back.

james dean wrote:
He's one of the better players in the league and he's a kiwi, of course we want him. I can't believe how fickle and naive people are here sometimes...


Yeah, one person posting in this thread said something stupid and everyone is fickle and naive.
valeo2007-12-21 21:59:21

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
if he decides to stay with perth after this year i say never sign him.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wow, i find it quite amusing that u guys are all loving him and calling for his signature in practically every bs transfer wish list thread thats been here, yet one spin journo article appears and suddenly its all this we dont NEED him and they cna have him bs... great work.... >_<
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
its mainly that we dont want him if hes gonna say he wants to play for us but when this coach comes along his intentions change.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Just covering our asses no matter what happens!

If he signs great we couldn't do without him
if he can't glory can have him he wasn't so great anyway
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
clark007e wrote:
its mainly that we dont want him if hes gonna say he wants to play for us but when this coach comes along his intentions change.


sigh, and what else could he possibly say in that situation? if it is his intention to come here, no professional in their right mind would tell a reporter who would spin like that he wanted to come here as soon as his contract goes.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I've never said we NEED him, we need better specialist Defenders and a Striker more than we need Bertos it's just the he'd add a lot of depth and could possibly play that support role up front with Smeltz.

And the thing is, if he signs again for Perth then he'll probably be getting more game time than he would here which is potetially a good thing for the AW's.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i think he;d be a good addition but it's not like it's the end of the world if he stays. Really we have plenty of midfielders and we need to boost our defence up in the off season.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
valeo wrote:




tbh it's probably the better choice for him to stay in Perth. He's certain to start there but he has to compete with Daniel/Lochy here. He could play striker ( he links up well with Smeltz ) but I don't think that really suits him. I'd love to see him at the Nix but looking at our squad we don't really NEED him. We NEED a right back.
james dean wrote:
He's one of the better players in the league and he's
a kiwi, of course we want him. I can't believe how fickle and naive
people are here sometimes...
Yeah, one person posting in this thread said something stupid and everyone is fickle and naive.


It's not just one person and it's not just this thread!!

Normo's coming home

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
muso wrote:
wow, i find it quite amusing that u guys are all loving him and calling for his signature in practically every bs transfer wish list thread thats been here, yet one spin journo article appears and suddenly its all this we dont NEED him and they cna have him bs... great work.... >_<


Er...I don't think anyone has ever seed we 'need' him - just that he would be a good pickup and that we thought he would be a certainty to come anyway. If he doesn't I truly don't think it will be a huge loss. Obviously it'd be awesome if he came but if he doesn't...meh? We have Daniel and Lochhead and I don't really see how Bertos would fit in at the moment - unless he plays striker.
valeo2007-12-21 23:36:31

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I reckon that since scoring that goal Leo's gone all starry-eyed: it's his first time and suddenly he's in love. Well, if he stays at Perth good luck to him. Still think he would be a huge asset for the Phoenix, so I hope we press hard to get him over here.
 
Lochhead's a good enough midfielder but Bertos is superior, in fact he's more consistent than Daniel too, though without the goal scoring knack. Come HOME, Leo!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
After reading that article again I think it doesn't mean sh*t - even if Bertos was quoted correctly (and it wasn't just made up).

Of course he isn't going to say he will leave Perth before the seasons over. We'll only really know when the season is over.

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
We ave enough midfielders who get nose bleeds when they get infront of goal, don't need anymore. Also the fact that he is another All white player, we ave for more than enough already.
 
 Need another finisher and a solid denfender..
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think he's just being diplomatic and keeping his options open.  Like the true professional he is. 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bring Home Bertos
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jose's Dog wrote:
I think he's just being diplomatic and keeping his options open.  Like the true professional he is. 
id agree with that
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
he's hardly gonna tell Perth he's pssing off. He has told people here he would love it - so expect him here next year i reckon

Founder

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
if he doesnt come we can boooo him right
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
pedersen wrote:
if he doesnt come we can boooo him right
 
I'd expect no less
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
His work rate is very good both going forward and helping in defence, it was interesting the change in Perths team performance when he came back. Their was a definite lift in the team.
 
He did not lead the assists last year for no reason.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
well, what was the reason then??

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When the Glory kept losing, Bertos wanted out, when they finally started winning, he wants to stay.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When the Glory kept losing, Bertos wanted out, when they finally started winning, he wants to stay.


omg.. please thats a pathetic response and u know it, just take a moment and think about his position, and then think, would a pro footballer really tell his club if he was leaving or not 4 weeks before the season is over? ffs dude, think about it before u post drivel like hat
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
muso wrote:
When the Glory kept losing, Bertos wanted out, when they finally started winning, he wants to stay.


omg.. please thats a pathetic response and u know it, just take a moment and think about his position, and then think, would a pro footballer really tell his club if he was leaving or not 4 weeks before the season is over? ffs dude, think about it before u post drivel like hat
 
that leaves us with only one question then
 
how much wood would a woodchuck chuck
if a woodchuk could chuck wood
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Did the improvement in the Perth performance not coincide with Bertos coming back from injury?
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
pedersen wrote:
 
that leaves us with only one question then
 
how much wood would a woodchuck chuck
if a woodchuk could chuck wood


He would chuck, he would, as much wood as he could,
and chuck as much wood as a woodchuck would chuck
if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Bertos on the left and Elrich on the right feeding Smeltz and a new striker - could be good. Might mean Daniel to the bench though. 
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