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just wondering, theoretically, if all our squad is fit and able to play, what would our best starting line-up be? ie, i guess tim brown would start being vice-captain, and i would like to see fillipe starting cos of his skill factor, then there's richard johnson...we have lots of options in the midfield who do you guys reckon would be best for the crunch matches?
Xcellent, you only named 10 players...could have O'Dor at the back aswell
yeah they look good
na mate i wouldnt say that daniel was playing back.i think no-one
realises how amazing his positional play is. sure he was back at
times but then he went forward well and he defended well. I have no
doubt that this guy is going to be bigger than Fred. We have never
had anyone in the country who has represented Brazil and on top of
that is 27. Apparentely Felipe is just as good, i cant believe how
well we are shaping up. this could be massive for New Zealand
football.
I hope he's another Fred - we've signed him for 2 years!
valeo2007-07-24 12:31:41
I'm pretty sure that Daniel didn't play for Brazil, the wikipedia
article was a load of rubbish, still looks like a good player
though.
Daniel did play for Brazil, it was confirmed in an article, from the man himself and numerous respected football database. Sure it was one cap as a sub but a cap is a cap.
best starting line-up
just wondering, theoretically, if all our squad is fit and able to play, what would our best starting line-up be? ie, i guess tim brown would start being vice-captain, and i would like to see fillipe starting cos of his skill factor, then there's richard johnson...we have lots of options in the midfield who do you guys reckon would be best for the crunch matches?
not richard johnson i would like to see filipe in there aswell
All of our imports should start to begin with - hopefully at least
3 of the 4 will go good. I'm pretty confident with Daniel and
Cleberson, not too sure on George and Campos..
GK Paston
RB Dodd
CB Cleberson
LB Lochhead
DMF Aloisi
CMF Brown
LMF Daniel
AMF Felipe
RWF George
CF Coveny
CF Smeltz
Coveny
Smeltz
George
Felipe
Daniel
Brown
Aloisi
Lochhead Cleberson
Dodd
pedersen2007-07-23 16:02:44
Agreed with Pederson but i rate Moss over Paston.
Paston still has that Barthez eccentric look to me.
Really not too sure about having 3 at the back...
They played 4 at the back yesterday and looked very
solid
Everyone seems to want a back 3, back 4 is better. isn't Daniel a
Wing back?
maybe in brazil, but not in this league; he's going to rip teams to
shreds from a more advanced position
we could have 4 at the back but then one of our strikers wouldnt
start mabye one of them could be a super sub i dont know but whcih
striker wouldnt start i thin k either george or coveny wont start
if we have 4 at the back
also who would be the last defender and that formation is good
defensively daniel is playing pretty much back with aloisi and
brown not too far forward
The only weaknesses i could see in our team on sunday was michael
ferrante and to a lesser degree steven old. The strikers worked
amazingly together and apparentely George is having trouble with
his fitness at the moment. (he was never going to play as he sat a
few rows ahead of me for the majority of the game) Maybe they will
use George as an impact player in the first couple of rounds then
blood him into the first team, which will be a tall order if Coveny
and Smeltz continue their good form.
My lineup would be:
GK - Paston
DEF - Dodd
DEF- Cleberson
DEF- Lochhead
DCM- Aloisi
CM- Brown
LM- Daniel
RM- Felipe
STR- Coveny
STR- Smeltz
Subs: Moss,O'Dor, Christie, George
My lineup would be:
GK - Paston
DEF - Dodd
DEF- Cleberson
DEF- Lochhead
DCM- Aloisi
CM- Brown
LM- Daniel
RM- Felipe
STR- Coveny
STR- Smeltz
Subs: Moss,O'Dor, Christie, George
johnson would be a quality player to have on the bench he may even
leave for an aussie club if he doesnt get much game time im
guessing that hell leave for perth at the end of this year and well
get bertos
Again, 3 at the back seems stupid.
Daniel needs to get forward as much as possible, why waste him
playing him at wing back.
Lochheah had a blinder and looked very comfortable going
forward, so why woudln't we use him as a left back.
We can still have 4 at the back and play 2 strikers, look how
well it worked yesterday.
which striker would miss out then and who would be the defender to
come in
I don't think there is any chance of the above mentioned formations
being used, a back three willl get ripped apart. It's pretty hard
to call who the starting strikers are at this stage as we haven't
seen much of George or Felipe, if Felipe does play as a playmaker
then it will most likely be at the expense of one of Smeltz or
Coveny. Aloisi and one of Brown and Johnson will start in central
midfield, with Daniel as left wing, not sure on right wing though
maybe George or Ferrante.
Xcellent, you only named 10 players...could have O'Dor at the back aswell
i agree that four at the back is important, it worked extremley well on sunday as it was. regarding the rest of the team.. well i'd like to see some sign of the other newbies to see what i think. but would prefer smeltz to coveney if one had to go.
is it just me or did Daniel have free reign around the field? i moved around alot, finally sticking with the left. not that i minded at all, their midfield didnt ajust to stop him, and our wing backs managed to look after the short fall when he went for a wander.
haha funny that i was supposted to put O'Dor at the back. dont
believe in this three man rubbish
GK Paston
CB Cleberson
CB Dodd
LB Lochhead
RB Christie/Old
CM Brown
CM Aloisi
LWM Daniel
RAM Felipe
CF Coveny/George
CF Smeltz
na mate i wouldnt say that daniel was playing back.i think no-one
realises how amazing his positional play is. sure he was back at
times but then he went forward well and he defended well. I have no
doubt that this guy is going to be bigger than Fred. We have never
had anyone in the country who has represented Brazil and on top of
that is 27. Apparentely Felipe is just as good, i cant believe how
well we are shaping up. this could be massive for New Zealand
football.
lwm for daniel not wing back attacking midfielder with felipe more
central but still covering out wide
I'm pretty sure that Daniel didn't play for Brazil, the wikipedia
article was a load of rubbish, still looks like a good player
though.
George
Smeltz
Ferrante
Felipe
Daniel
Brown
Aloisi
Lochhead Cleberson
Dodd
Once more, good luck playing three at the back. If they do that
they'll get eaten
I am in Brazil but from what I've been reading it seems Ricki has 2
good structures depending on his objectives in each game:
1) 4-3-1-2 - this diamond formation in the midifield is
being used a lot by the Brazilian national team and lots of teams
in the Brazilian championship:
4 - the 4 who played this weekend
3 - RDefM TIM BROWN + CDM ALOISI + LDM JEREMY
1 - AM DANIEL
2 - COVENY + SMELTZ
2) classic 4-4-2
4- the 4 who played vs Sydney
2 - TIM BROWN + ALOISI
2 - RM FELIPE + LM DANIEL
2- COVENY + SMELTZ
These are 2 strong options for the team.
yeah they look good
I hope he's another Fred - we've signed him for 2 years!
valeo2007-07-24 12:31:41
I think that the idea is at the moment that we will play 4 at the
back, and 2 up front (or at least 1 up front and 1 just in
behind - in the hole).
2 up front felipe in the whole
Daniel did play for Brazil, it was confirmed in an article, from the man himself and numerous respected football database. Sure it was one cap as a sub but a cap is a cap.
I think the fomratino we played against Sydney looked good, but
just because we hit form. I would like to see a more midfield
attacking role from Daniel hitting wings as he did during Sydney
and see him take on some players.
I think Ricki just needs some time to let things settle before
he find the formation to suite the team.
Well, pre-season IS the time to experiment. I wouldn't stop
changing stuff (if needed) just because we trounced Sydney.
exactly as long as we still win
I'm not settling for anything less than 3-0 in Chch..