Bye bye Johnny...

Bye bye Johnny...

and thanks for the memories!... so Reecey for CF?

Has he officially been released????

Though the club hasn't officiall released anything, apparent absence from training for the last few weeks would suggest so. But who knows.

Who are we referring to? John Mitchell, Jon McKain or Jian Chen (for those of us not with the inside word)

Chen

I think Johnny Chen.

suggest that means no more asian (excl Aust) players for the Nix?

Was on the RS news at 4pm... after they mentioned Mad Manny Muscat will now be known as Mad Midfielder Manny Muscat (4M for short).

don't even know why we sign him tbh.

Obscure reference alert -

Maybe Chen doesn't suit the type of football he wanted.
We need a new South American player

Also mentioned Caceres in for Danny... will be on again at 5 I'd presume for the non-believers 

you better be serious !

Serious was my middle name... tho I couldn't spell it until I was 22 so changed it to John

Because if we didn't we'd have copped a fine for less than 20.

YAY!!!! bring on January transfer!!!

oh right. Cheers.

Wished we had seen more from this kid, but positive thinking and hopefully we will find ourselves another striker

Maybe it was done to free up some cash flow?

C-Diddy2009-12-29 17:56:43

Sunday, Monday, Not Pay Day.
Tuesday, Wednesday, Still Not Paid.
Thursday, Friday, Terry Says.
Saturday, Will Be Pay Day,
But I'm Standin' In The Dole Queue.

^^ Like.

agree!

Im not but reckon mully would get a run at watever team hes gone back too

Is my casual obsevation correct that Brazilian and Asian footballers do not thrive in Wellington Phoenix and yet theior compatriots thrive BIG time in Australian clubs? Is it that we need sledgers like Siggy to play the pastoral chooping physical style that suits the rigby mad NZ?

or maybe wellie has signed alot of dud asians and brazilians. cleberson,george and G** anyone?

damn, thought you meant Key had given up and was staying in Hawaii!

Well if they had cashflow problems then why would they fight for a 10 year licence. Why would they fight to have the services of Fred.

I predicted that this would be a waste when he was signed based on past Chinese efforts at the Kingz/Knights/Phoenix and sure enough I've been proved right. 

I wish we would stop signing Chinese players as they have all shown time and again that they are not up to the level.  Should be looking at Koreans and Japanese instead.

At risk of making a sweeping generalisation, Chinese players tend to not travel or adapt well, and a lot of them over here spend too much time in KTVs.

They have totally different attitudes and approaches to Korean and Japanese players (for example), lumping Asian players together is like lumping Europeans together. Would you generalise about Italians and Scandanavians as one group?

Looking for guys that are not easily pushed off the ball.

JJ Price would be a good recruit. Ex DOnny Rovers, then Millwall. Might still be there. Big Welsh centre forward with a great attitude, good in the air and turns his hand to battling in the midfield when needed.

It seems that WP needs rugby type build players who can bulldoze opposition out of the way with their size, might and speed but skills is not part of it. Long ball, hard rugby and pastoral tackles seem to the way here in NZ. Doubt that Koreans and Japanese players or even other south american and african players can thrive in WP. Btw, Carceras is only an "impact player" but all those other players are duds. Yeah right. Could it be the coaching structure and players culture within WP that prevent these players from displaying their craft?

martinb2009-12-30 13:54:19

We need an arab, Allah Ahkba! anyone?

Steve-O2009-12-30 17:10:10

Ali Abbas?

I think it is more to do with limited resources to scout. In season one we were in a hurry hence we signed a couple of dud Brazilians after watching DVDs. And the club does not have the resources to scout all over South and Central America plus Asia or Africa or wherever. English football is something that Herbert has more knowledge about and can therefore go to more easily.

I don't think we would have wasted much on wages for Jiang, we did sign him after a trip to Tianjin, where there were discussions on cooperation, also Jiang had had discipline issues at Tianjin so maybe Tianjin basically paid his way here. Just speculating.

You have to remember that clubs deal a lot with agents and contacts at various clubs, so while they were in England, they would have had a lot of phone calls around other parts before they got down to the final list of players for face-to-face talks.

I would be surprised if they bypassed Europe or South America to concentrate solely on England. They would have had all their options open to start with.

Hopefully they'll bring in another genuine striker to play up front with Greenacre, and let Ifill fall back to playmaker role.

As far as I can tell we stop looking for player after we signed Chen.  I'm sure loaning him was done for financial reason.  That is, because he was loaned, part of his wages were subsidied by the other club.  Therefore allowing salary cap funds to be allocated elsewhere.

IIRC we were on the verge of signing another English striker before he pulled out last minute.

I think i heard somewhere that the fine is continual until you sign the 20th player, so hard to tell which option would have been better.