I'm wondering how the fever are going to handle dealings with Stadium staff. I remember watchign the all whites V dunfirmline there a few years back and being asked by a steward to sit down because I had been standing up for about 5 minutes. When I inquired as to why I needed to sit I was told that the people behind me shudl be given the opportunity to see the game. So naturally I looked behind to see that the nearest spectators were about 10 rows back!!
rediculous. . . - Warning to all Wellington
Fans; the stadium stewards havn't got a clue when it comes to
football, and have no idea how we like to enjoy our sport. It'a
also likely that all our singing will be drowned out by mindless
sound effects and cheesey songs from the Stadium PA.
We're going to have to somewhow liaise with the ground
management wherever we play, in order to ensure that we get a
'football' atmoshpere.
quite right phil. they could be a bit over zealous, but i
think years of facilitating the wellington IRB sevens has probably
helped raise the tolerance levels.
nonetheless we need to make sure that a proper football
atmosphere can be generated. this will become a hot topic
come game time and you can be assured that, as a supporters
group, we'll be looking for an effective way to get this point
accross.
what is cake tin policy on animals?
Can i bring my pet Phoenix?
We need to make sure people leading the fanbase talk to the Stadium
management.
I had to get the AW's to smuggle in the Bloc 5 banner for that Dunfermline game and it took a sit-in, and then intervention from Chris Turner to stop the leader of Bloc 5 being chucked out of the stadium in one Kingz visit.
I had to get the AW's to smuggle in the Bloc 5 banner for that Dunfermline game and it took a sit-in, and then intervention from Chris Turner to stop the leader of Bloc 5 being chucked out of the stadium in one Kingz visit.
Totally agree HN - we'll be talking to the powers that be closer to the time to ensure that there is a good football atmosphere provided.
The likes of the sevens has hopefully meant that the stadium bullies will have calmed down a bitIt's frightening to think the Sevens are our friend, but you're
right.
what is cake tin policy on animals?
Can i bring my pet Phoenix?
Haha, post of the year 
you guys will certainly have to educate them abit. if they know
that people wanting to stand will be in a certain area and there
arnt any problems they should relax abit. maybe liaseing with the
club may make it easier so they can do some negotiations with the
stadium for you,
you guys will certainly have to educate them abit. if they know
that people wanting to stand will be in a certain area and there
arnt any problems they should relax abit.
Good point, we might want to look at a hard-core cop somewhere
at the ground. Personally I'm hoping they opt for the Basin
Reserve, becasue I really don't think they're every gonna get more
that 5000 along regularly to the games. That number of people
(even duoble hhat number) at the Cake Tin would be a disaster, due
to its size. But even 5000 at the Basin feels pretty
good.
However I'm not sure the A-League rules would allow the Basin,
cos it might not be "developed" enough. Still I think one of the
major flaws of the previous NZ A-League setups is their need to
play at an over sized ground. That's a sure fire way of killing the
atmosphere (besides losing of course!).
If they start off at the Basin, then maybe they can build on
good atmosphere and move down the road later, provided we can
establish a strong and loyal base of fans who want to attend the
games. Better to play in a slightly smaller ground and get close to
selling out . . . looks good on TV too. . . . And the Basin is
probably going to be cheaper to use that the stadium. Bigger isn't
always better.
Couldn't agree more, while the Stadium is awesome, it's pretty average when it's half full, let along 1/7 full (based on 5000 attending a 35000 stadium). The yellow seats stick out like dogs balls. Whereas the Basin with seating capacity of about 12k is perfect for the Phoenix...
However as always logic won't really come in to it, as they
will be more concerned with selling corporate boxes, & looking
after season ticket holders of the Stadium then with the
atmosphere.
"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington
The Basin has a number of issues:
1. No lights. To meet the optimum Aus TV times we're likely to need to play some evening games.
2. The cricket wickets. It would be a nightmare playing week in week out with a full block in the middle of the pitch
3. The cricket season. The basin is in use for 30+ days a summer for matches, and the time needed for wicket prep. means you couldn't play there within 5 or so days of a match.
4. It won't come close to meeting the standards laid out in the FFA participation agreement.
Besides, 5k ? Stretch lads... every person you meet, ask them if they are getting a season ticket, and if they are attending the opening League game. Once you have bullied them in to a yes, write down the name on a list and the week tickets go on sale remind them until they do it...
The single most important thing about the Stadium is that it must be General Admission, not allocated seating...
1. No lights. To meet the optimum Aus TV times we're likely to need to play some evening games.
2. The cricket wickets. It would be a nightmare playing week in week out with a full block in the middle of the pitch
3. The cricket season. The basin is in use for 30+ days a summer for matches, and the time needed for wicket prep. means you couldn't play there within 5 or so days of a match.
4. It won't come close to meeting the standards laid out in the FFA participation agreement.
Besides, 5k ? Stretch lads... every person you meet, ask them if they are getting a season ticket, and if they are attending the opening League game. Once you have bullied them in to a yes, write down the name on a list and the week tickets go on sale remind them until they do it...
The single most important thing about the Stadium is that it must be General Admission, not allocated seating...
Basin definitely has issues - as HN pointed out - lack of lights, cricket season, but also parking, access for the Hutt Valley football nuts and atmosphere (not well laid out for footy and will be hard to generate buzz or hear anybody's brilliant chants in raging november northerly). Stadium will be too big most of time - but has gone ok with 10,000 - 12,000 at Kingz games and ODIs.
60,000 at least for Grand Final - so we better make sure Eden Park is available on that date. I'm booking my flights and accomodation now ...The Basin Reserve is a terrible ground for watching football at,
and I say that from experience. Just forget about it.
The atmosphere simply won't be any better there than the
stadium, even with small crowds. The playing area at the Basin is
actually much bigger than the stadium which means the crowd is
miles from the pitch (and the design of the ground prohibits the
use of temporary seating). The lack of proper stands also makes
the ground much more open making it harder to
generate a real atmosphere inside. The only good thing about it is
it's so easy to jump the fence!
As Hard News points out talking about crowds of 5k is lame
anyway. Wellington should definitely be looking at regular crowds
of 10-15k and higher for this. That will be fine at the
Stadium with room for growth. If it's general admission and the
crowd's not too spread out it'll be great. An atmosphere is what
you make it, don't blame the stadium.
I was surprised to hear the Basin even being mentioned as a
possible option because it just isn't up to it and would show a
complete lack of ambition by Wellington. I'd be embarassed if we
ended up there.
Yeah I know, wishful thinking to a degree i guess. I just hate
seeing that Stadium less than about 2/3 rds full. For the sports i
really follow, League, cricket and football that always seems to be
the case in the Stadium.
And the Basin has such a wonderful atmosphere, even half
full.
I have no doubts the Stadium will be the home always.
Although i do wish the FFA had given us a home game first up,
but i saw a draw on this forum(?) showing us away to the Roar first
up.
A poor first up result away to the Roar will reduce the crowd
numbers, although that also gives Herbert a great chance, because a
good away result will encourage bigger numbers to the first home
game.
"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington
It could have been worse Dougie... I mean, the Roar have got
Fwankie in charge which should help our chances no end.
tx 100% right - lets not tread gently - Basin rubbish for football.
Cant be contemplated. Stadium only option. EOS
My mate spouted this line as well: "the Basin....it'll have
great atmosphere blah blah blah." I mean, I luv the Basin as
well - for cricket. But for football - YUK!!!!
STADIUM ONLY OPTION.
Lads - I hope you're right, but regular crowds of 10-15k?
Do you really think so? I reckon there'll be around 15k for
the first game and it will dwindle back losing around 20% each week
until it will settle around the 5-6k mark.
But, sh*t i would love it if you;re proved
correct...
"You can never get a bloody tradesman at Easter, it's a wonder Jesus got crucified" - Karl Pilkington
The Basin is ruled out simply because of no lights, therefore no
Aussie TV coverage.
I agree the Caketin can look empty when half full. But
why not block off Aisles 1-18, so that the TV coverage shows a
reasonably full stadium? Just slap some walls to your left
when you enter the stadium. Save on catering, serving warm
piss, lighting expenses ets...
It worked so well at NHS 
Hard News2007-04-02 22:15:46
Hard News2007-04-02 22:15:46