


It's really cheap there, breakfast costs about 60c.
I stayed mostly at the YHA. They have an English-speaking travel agent who can help you.
Watch out for scammers in Beijing and Shanghai though, they love a white face.
I'd be keen to go again to see the Phoenix play ...
Well I'm already here!
Taxi drivers do tend to be b#^tards here but just insist on your change. And yes there are scammers in all major shopping and hotel areas. Don't follow touts anywhere, but do buy match tickets from touts outside the stadium at one third of the stated price.
.yeh mate there's a few around...
keen as beans...hoping its on the weekend...don't want to have to quit my job over a Phoenix game, but!
gotta peer pressure all the kiwis you know to come with...
start putting the pressure on now...I had a trip to Guangzhou recently...
considering I left a few days before the season kicked off and the only game I've seen is beckstravaganza...
we gotta get on youtube and start learning those chants...
got my fingers crossed to be drinking a tsingtao or beverage of choice with ya as costa opens the scoring...
can verify the easy as pie visa from HK thing...wasn't a hassle when I was there recently...got mine overnight...

anyone got any hints on where he has played in the past? Is there anyone on the forum at the mo' who is of Chinese decent btw? Just out of curiousity...
A Saturday game would be good- could fly over Friday, and hopefully get back on Monday for work..its a bummer there's no holiday period around then?
Someone should get some Gao/Phoenix posters done and post them around the unis, tea cafes, BBQs etc etc! or place ads on the local Chinese tv stations/ newspapers and deals for the Asian football leagues or something...
gee that doesn't sound amateur and desparate does it? It was the kind of strategy that sortof sometimes worked for promoting things at uni

martinb2008-03-20 23:56:45
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It's really cheap there, breakfast costs about 60c.
I stayed mostly at the YHA. They have an English-speaking travel agent who can help you.
Watch out for scammers in Beijing and Shanghai though, they love a white face.

In terms of organisation and infrastructure the Games will be OK, there will be groups attempting disruptions however they'll be small in scale and quickly dealt with by the enormous security presence. It's impossible to predict what news coverage of the 'disruptions' will be like and affect they'll have on the Chinese govt's PR objectives, however this will be more of a media/news coverage issue rather than major disruptions on the ground. That's my prediction anyway.
As for a tour in June if it happens, there can be a lots of little annoying things about travelling in China (I missed the first half of Australia vs China yesterday because of someone's stuff up), however the recent stuff in T**** and surrounding areas have no impact on life in Shanghai, Beijing or other major cities.
.I only have a very very small personal experience of China...so this is a big generalisation...but I think the thing people tend to neglect from our coverage is that there are a lot of Chinese who are very proud of their country and who they are! So having the Olympics is a big deal in showing that to the world. A lot lot.
We tend to pigeonhole a country by the method of government, but often miss the fact that it is a proud country and a nation on a personal level too, even if there are things about it which we find difficult to accept like the values by which it is administered.
hence they like that Australia beat Japan at the World Cup! and they don't believe that Italy and Spain were beaten fairly and squarely in 2002...on my cross section of the meagre handfull of folk I talked football with...
maybe I am showing my ignorance here...but it is something I feel it is very hard to grasp from NZ where we can not really understand how vast China is, both in the human landscape and the actual country.
also I guess if you think of small rivalries like Auckland/Canterbury writ large with 4000 years plus of history and how you might deal with that if you were the government in Wellington ...ahh well enough of me waffling on...
I have a suspicion that a lot of people are going to be suprised by these games...but we will see I suppose...
martinb2008-03-27 22:23:47