Daniel, ex-Bota, visita o time e quer levar T�lio
Lateral-esquerdo na S�rie B, em 2003, vai se naturalizar neozeland�s
Lateral-esquerdo na S�rie B, em 2003, vai se naturalizar neozeland�s
Na semana que antecede a final da Ta�a Guanabara, o Botafogo recebeu a visita de um jogador que ajudou na campanha do time na S�rie B. Trata-se do lateral-esquerdo Daniel, de 28 anos, que disputava posi��o com Jorginho Paulista. Atualmente no Wellington Fenix, da Nova Zel�ndia, ele est� de f�rias e compareceu a General Severiano. E j� quer levar um ex-companheiro seu.
- Vim com presidente e o t�cnico do time para achar outros jogadores para levar para l�. Gostaria de jogar com T�lio, � t�cnico, tem bom toque de bola, ajudaria muito a refor�ar nosso time. L�, � s� na base da for�a e correria. Jogo como meia-atacante, est� sendo muito bom para mim. Tenho 28 anos, estou me naturalizando e, como o t�cnico do meu time, � tamb�m da sele��o, j� vou jogar as Eliminat�rias. Temos boas chances de jogar Copa do Mundo - explicou Daniel, lembrando que caso se classifique na Oceania, ainda ter� de enfrentar o quinto melhor da �sia.
Botafoguense, Daniel afirmou ainda que ir� na final da Ta�a Guanabara, contra o Flamnego, no pr�ximo domingo
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This is an article saying that Daniel is in Rio with CEO and herbert looking at players. He wants to take the main idol of my club in Rio Botafogo. Tulio. This wont happen but there are others who could well be worth it.
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The most interesting thing based on the babel fish translation is where Daniel says that he is going through the naturalisation process. Assuming this is correct then it looks like we will have a new All White midfielder in a couple of years
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Cool. Can't wait to see who (if we do sign someone) we pick up. Good to see we aren't relying on DVD's this time..
a.haak
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This is an article saying that Daniel is in Rio with CEO and herbert looking at players. He wants to take the main idol of my club in Rio Botafogo. Tulio. This wont happen but there are others who could well be worth it.
sounds like a canny move to have Daniel alongside to help
here's a translation courtesy of Babelfish
In the week that precedes the end of the Guanabara Goblet, the Botafogo received the visit from a player who helped in the campaign of the teams in Series B. Is about the lateral-left Daniel, of 28 years, that position with S�o Paulo Jorginho disputed. Currently in the Wellington Fenix, of the New Zel�ndia, it it is of vacation and it appeared General Severiano. E already wants to take an former-friend its. - I came with president and the technician of the teams to find other players to lead for there. It would like to play with T�lio, he is technician, it has good touch of ball, it would very help to strengthen our teams. There, it is alone in the base of the force and running. Game as stocking-aggressor, is being very good for me. I have 28 years, I am becoming naturalized e, as the technician of my teams, is also of the election, already I go to play the Eliminatory ones. We have good possibilities to play Pantry of the World - Daniel explained, remembering that in case that if classifies in the Oceania, still he will have to face the fifth best one of Asia. Botafoguense, Daniel still affirmed that it will go in the end of the Guanabara Goblet, against the Flamnego, in the next sunday
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He's talking about getting nautralised still. I thought you had to declare for a country by age 21 or something?
a.haak
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If you play at Youth level you have to declare by 21, if you have never been capped at any level you can go where you like as long as you meet the nations criteria.
There is however some debate on what that criteria is in NZ.
There is however some debate on what that criteria is in NZ.
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That translation is pretty crap, i can do a better one later if you want....probably not necesary though you get the idea. hopefully he will turn up for the all whites then huh
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Better get off my girlfriends account (Flamenguista) especially since im talking about my other team Botafogo she would not be impressed with that, considering both our teams play each othwer in The Guanabara Cup (not goblet) on sunday!!!
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.
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That translation is pretty crap, i can do a better one later if you want....probably not necesary though you get the idea. hopefully he will turn up for the all whites then huh
i did ask the cleverst looking of the babelfish that i could see
the "World of Pantry" did raise a smile
and "stocking aggressor" sounds a tad dodgy
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Translation
Botafogo received a visit from a player who helped in their Series B campaign of 2003. Daniel disputed the left wing with Jorginho paulista. Currently in the Wellington Fenix, of the New Zealandhe is on holidays and appeared at General Severiano. And he wants to take some players back with him. �� I came with the CEO and the coach of the team to find other players to take back with us. It would like to play with T�lio, he is very technical, has good touch of ball, it would help to strengthen our team. There, it is mainly strength and running. Playing as attacking mid fielder, is being very good for me. I have 28 years, I am becoming naturalized , as the coach of my team, is alsoteh coach of the All Whites, I should be able to play in World Cup eliminations. We have good possibilities to play in the World Cup - Daniel explained, remembering that if NZ classifies in Oceania, they will still have to face the fifth best one of Asia. Botafoguense, Daniel still affirmed that it will go to watch the Final of the Guanabara cup ( First half of state champ), against Flamengo, this sunday
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.
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babelfish is a funny name hehe, hope this is better for you!!
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.
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cheers Blackplague,
the term "babelfish" comes from douglas Adam's book -" Life, the universe and everything" (or something like that) a slightly funny sci-fi take-off that some think is hilarious
it was a fish you shove in your ear to understand any language in the Universe etc etc
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Don't you have to have lived in NZ for 3 years before you can play for the All Whites? If so, Daniel would be 30 or 31 by the time he could play for us.
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im sure thats a rugby clause
although im not so sure im sure
Get Winston to rubber stamp it he owes us big time!
although im not so sure im sure
Get Winston to rubber stamp it he owes us big time!
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does anyone know if felipe is enjoying it here?
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does anyone know if felipe is enjoying it here?
Next time I see him I'll be sure to ask him.....but will be sure to stick one of these Babelfish in my ear before he replies......
Oh Fenix we love you!!!
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Oh and thanks BP for the posting of this article and for the translation, most interesting.
Good luck in the The Guanabara Cup too......
Good luck in the The Guanabara Cup too......
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There, it is mainly strength and running.
Interesting thoughts on the A-League from Daniel if that's what he said. Pretty harsh, but probably true. My reading of it is that he's saying the A-League is more about fitness and strength than skill.
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Sure, but how many players actually say that publically. It's just interesting that someone from outside of Oceania forms that view so quickly, given that it's been the hallmark of NZ and Australian football for so long. I think Australia is breaking out of that mold, although they still maintain a great physical presence, but NZ still has a long way to go.
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Compared to the way Brazillians play I suspect those two elements of the A-league would stand out. Don't think he's taking a jibe or anything.
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He's a good bloke is our Daniel....club man of the year I reckon and now he's helping getting some ace Brazilians to the mighty Phoenix for the upcomiing season.
Can't wait until he makes the All Whites...maybe he can divorce Mrs Daniel and we can find him a nice kiwi girl...could speed up his NZ passport!!!!!
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There, it is mainly strength and running.
Interesting thoughts on the A-League from Daniel if that's what he said. Pretty harsh, but probably true. My reading of it is that he's saying the A-League is more about fitness and strength than skill.
Song, the new Korean player at Newcastle said much the same thing in an interview. In fact he said that the perception in Korea of the A League was that it was a lot more physical and of a lower standard than the K League. Which makes Song a unique case: a promising Asian youth international deciding to play at a lower standard for lower wages. But he's deliberately chosen A League football to improve his English (he says), I presume because he has a longer-term plan to play in England. Who knows, perhaps he actually wants to experience a more physical competition for his own personal growth as a player.
Anyway, whatever our opinions are of the A League it seems clear that it has a modest profile at best offshore.
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cheers Blackplague,
the term "babelfish" comes from douglas Adam's book -" Life, the universe and everything" (or something like that) a slightly funny sci-fi take-off that some think is hilarious
it was a fish you shove in your ear to understand any language in the Universe etc etc
It's from the Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy
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i thought it was hitchhikers guide....
Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.
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The original Babelfish translation is better than some english in posts on here 
Its no longer a problem.
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There, it is mainly strength and running.
Interesting thoughts on the A-League from Daniel if that's what he said. Pretty harsh, but probably true. My reading of it is that he's saying the A-League is more about fitness and strength than skill.
Song, the new Korean player at Newcastle said much the same thing in an interview. In fact he said that the perception in Korea of the A League was that it was a lot more physical and of a lower standard than the K League. Which makes Song a unique case: a promising Asian youth international deciding to play at a lower standard for lower wages. But he's deliberately chosen A League football to improve his English (he says), I presume because he has a longer-term plan to play in England. Who knows, perhaps he actually wants to experience a more physical competition for his own personal growth as a player.
Anyway, whatever our opinions are of the A League it seems clear that it has a modest profile at best offshore.
Juninho made the same interesting observation earlier in the season. He said that the A-League was far too physical, even much more so than the English Premier League. He thought that the clubs needed to put more emphasis on playing football than 'playing the man'. I guess the physicality comes about because of the lower skill level and lack of pace (i.e., if, for example, you can't beat Juninho with skills and pace, you have to bring him down). From what I've seen of EPL games, Juninho is right. While the EPL is physical, the emphasis is on skill and pace. The other thing that is fascinating if you're watching an EPL game live (you can't tell from the television) is the off-the-ball movement by players. The players are constantly moving, looking for position and space. Their fitness must be absolutely supberb given the amount of running they do throughout a game. My own view is that the pro players in England and Europe are not only technically better but also more athletic and faster. But I think the A-League will get better and better, although it's still currently very entertaining and exciting.
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So If Daniel gets his naturalisation that would mean another import slot opens up for the Phoenix too..
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Daniel's in Rio sounds like a dodgy movie
I like tautologies because I like them.
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haha we should off put him and felipe on loan to a brazilian team over the a-league holidays
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It'll be interesting to see if they find any gems in Sth America. Why not try and grab some 22-25 Y/O guys that also want to naturalise . . could be great for the Nix and the AWs. . .
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Don't you have to have lived in NZ for 3 years before you can play for the All Whites? If so, Daniel would be 30 or 31 by the time he could play for us.
Unless, of course, you are a netball player. Irene van Dyk lived here for about eight seconds before getting citizenship.
TheJam2008-02-22 08:05:53Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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yeh, netball and rugby seem much more willing to allow players to change countries (but that might be my bias showing, as i can't recall seeing any facts on it)
as to the my grandmother ate porridge/drank guiness once so I'll play for Scotland/Ireland etc - that seems to be a factor in most sports
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