Wow, we're only on page two and already have the hidden posts screwing up the pages bug.
Nice mention on TV 3 news
True, and a negative slant on it on TV One news
Watch out, Patrick will get on your case.
The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!
I think you are giving Dome too much credit.
It merely reeks of sloppy seconds
There is something really familiar about your posting style Kwakka.
Perpetually miserable, loving a good scapegoat, fixated on one member of the Fever.
I just can't put my finger on where from.
My last negative comment until forced otherwise :) but once again the club showing absolutely no idea about PR with that drivel spouted about 2nd choice, 6 month etc.
Yeah that whole "we could have had him earlier but thought 'meh'" thing is totally and utterly fudgeed.
Sounds like they couldn't get the deal done in time, reading that closely
We're Doomed!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
Yeah that whole "we could have had him earlier but thought 'meh'" thing is totally and utterly fudgeed.
Agreed. Absolutely nonsensical. Imagine Kalezic having 2 months basically pressure free to figure out which players he likes. Would've been perfect. Instead we got a stop gap that they never really considered for the top job anyway.
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Yeah that whole "we could have had him earlier but thought 'meh'" thing is totally and utterly fudgeed.
Sounds like they couldn't get the deal done in time, reading that closely
or didn't want to spend the money and stuck with the cheap option of Greenacre and Buckingham
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where's the pronunciation advice?
We talking 6 syllables or 5? Where's the stresses and vowel sounds in the first name?
Don't think it should be too tough to get into the chant!!
End of the video on the FB live: Da-ree-eh Kar-lay-zich
You could just go for the first name or the second in the chant: Dar-ree-eh's Yellow Army
or both Darieh Karlayzich's Yellow Army!
Just the second requires a bit more work
FFS guys give the guy a chance you have appointed what looks to be a well qualified European coach.... plenty of time left for him to build a squad ... why the moaning about the past all the time... celebrate what looks a good decision ... is it so hard to accept good news...
Socceroo/ Mariner / Whangarei
FFS guys give the guy a chance you have appointed what looks to be a well qualified European coach.... plenty of time left for him to build a squad ... why the moaning about the past all the time... celebrate what looks a good decision ... is it so hard to accept good news...
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Yeah that whole "we could have had him earlier but thought 'meh'" thing is totally and utterly fudgeed.
It's a bad bit of messaging and it's hard to know what the point of saying it was, that and saying that he was second choice behind Merrick last time. On one hand they're talking up how great he is, on the other they're saying they had doubts enough to hire someone else last time and keep the pretty young and green assistants this time.
There were probably good and pragmatic reasons to go down the path that the Phoenix did but it does no good for the club or coach to talk about it.
However, I notice the people that are most angry about this are also the ones who are angry that the Phoenix aren't open enough so once again damned if do damned if don't.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Anyway, this is the last roll of the dice for the club. If this doesn't work out then we're staring straight into oblivion. We need to start winning and start getting the public excited about the Nix or else it's all over.
No wonder people are getting pissy. It's been a long time since the club has seemed like it's in a positive place and even now, although I think this seems like a good appointment, the messaging coming from the club doesn't exactly scream confidence in their new gaffer.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
Anyway, this is the last roll of the dice for the club. If this doesn't work out then we're staring straight into oblivion. We need to start winning and start getting the public excited about the Nix or else it's all over.
No wonder people are getting pissy. It's been a long time since the club has seemed like it's in a positive place and even now, although I think this seems like a good appointment, the messaging coming from the club doesn't exactly scream confidence in their new gaffer.
I have no problems with the gaffer whatsoever. He seems a bold choice. Something different.
It is the process, the deferment of the appointment and apparent stringing along of D&G. It is the thought processes of club management that I wonder about.
I do wonder how much influence Kalezić's had on the recent departing players. If this whole "we decided not to hire him 6 months ago" spiel is correct, then surely he has had ample time to watch (at least on TV) the Nix and have some sort of influence.
The other thing I'm struggling to work out (re: "we were going to hire him 6 months ago") is why the visa supposedly took so long to sort.

The other thing I'm struggling to work out (re: "we were going to hire him 6 months ago") is why the visa supposedly took so long to sort.
so much this
I do wonder how much influence Kalezić's had on the recent departing players. If this whole "we decided not to hire him 6 months ago" spiel is correct, then surely he has had ample time to watch (at least on TV) the Nix and have some sort of influence.
The other thing I'm struggling to work out (re: "we were going to hire him 6 months ago") is why the visa supposedly took so long to sort.
Dome said that every departing player was looked at by Kalezić and that none of them were offered a contract. He watched last seasons games before making his decisions. It might be a good thing that he didn't start mid season as he could get rid of players based purely on what he saw and not any personal connection.
The visa didn't seem to take long to sort, these things take time and they can't begin the process until he's got the job. As was stated above it appears that the issues mid seasons was that negotiations were ongoing.
Any word on what happens to the other backroom staff? Obviously Des and Greenie been talked about but what about the rest, strength and conditioning team etc. Total clean out or new coaches just have to work with what is already in place?
Good interview here with new coach http://www.a-league.com.au/article/wellington-phoe...
Anyway, this is the last roll of the dice for the club. If this doesn't work out then we're staring straight into oblivion. We need to start winning and start getting the public excited about the Nix or else it's all over.
No wonder people are getting pissy. It's been a long time since the club has seemed like it's in a positive place and even now, although I think this seems like a good appointment, the messaging coming from the club doesn't exactly scream confidence in their new gaffer.
Surely this is last roll of the dice for Domey
Normo's coming home
Anyway, this is the last roll of the dice for the club. If this doesn't work out then we're staring straight into oblivion. We need to start winning and start getting the public excited about the Nix or else it's all over.
No wonder people are getting pissy. It's been a long time since the club has seemed like it's in a positive place and even now, although I think this seems like a good appointment, the messaging coming from the club doesn't exactly scream confidence in their new gaffer.
Surely this is last roll of the dice for Domey

So this has been lined up since December?????
He couldn't do anything in those six months?
So have they just strung Des and Greenie along?
Does someone in the media have the balls to ask Dome some questions?
It does sound ludicrous to me. Are they really saying that a half season with the squad to see who he could work with and plan for the next season isn't better than coming in cold half way through the off season.
I do wonder how much influence Kalezić's had on the recent departing players. If this whole "we decided not to hire him 6 months ago" spiel is correct, then surely he has had ample time to watch (at least on TV) the Nix and have some sort of influence.
The other thing I'm struggling to work out (re: "we were going to hire him 6 months ago") is why the visa supposedly took so long to sort.
Dome said that every departing player was looked at by Kalezić and that none of them were offered a contract. He watched last seasons games before making his decisions. It might be a good thing that he didn't start mid season as he could get rid of players based purely on what he saw and not any personal connection.
The visa didn't seem to take long to sort, these things take time and they can't begin the process until he's got the job. As was stated above it appears that the issues mid seasons was that negotiations were ongoing.
Surely he would have a better idea of who he wanted after working day in and day out with them for a few months than just watching some game tape on TV - seeing who he could work with, who fit into his systems, which squad players (who he wouldn't have seen on TV) he liked and he saw potential in...
Excerpt from interview with Darije.
How do you like your teams to play?
"I like to play with the material I have in the squad. "The quality of the players will decide how I'm going to play. "But if you're asking about my favourite way, the answer is the Dutch way of football - attractive, nice football, based on possession. "
I like this answer. Rather than rigidly sticking to a tactical formula regardless of available personnel. Excellent.
Hopefully liking to play with the squad he's got doesn't stop him from signing new players.
I do wonder how much influence Kalezić's had on the recent departing players. If this whole "we decided not to hire him 6 months ago" spiel is correct, then surely he has had ample time to watch (at least on TV) the Nix and have some sort of influence.
The other thing I'm struggling to work out (re: "we were going to hire him 6 months ago") is why the visa supposedly took so long to sort.
Dome said that every departing player was looked at by Kalezić and that none of them were offered a contract. He watched last seasons games before making his decisions. It might be a good thing that he didn't start mid season as he could get rid of players based purely on what he saw and not any personal connection.
The visa didn't seem to take long to sort, these things take time and they can't begin the process until he's got the job. As was stated above it appears that the issues mid seasons was that negotiations were ongoing.
Surely he would have a better idea of who he wanted after working day in and day out with them for a few months than just watching some game tape on TV - seeing who he could work with, who fit into his systems, which squad players (who he wouldn't have seen on TV) he liked and he saw potential in...
No question
A fan is a fan.
Could it be that the owners thought we had a better chance of making the play-offs if we maintained some continuity in the coaching rather than turning it upside-down mid-season when Ernie left?
Definitely seemed like the focus was on making the play-offs rather than building for next season.
Most people are saying he would have been better off with a few months seeing the players in the flesh, which is no doubt the truth, but it also would have taken that focus away from making the play-offs, and turned it onto the individual player situations.
I know we didn't end up making the play-offs, but the departures at the end of the season have shown that the individual player situations were obviously put to one side while we focussed on trying to win games.
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For all those asking why we didn't get him 6 months ago, I thought Dome implied that they couldn't get the deal over the line then I'm fairly sure. All the other reasons are making a virtue of a necessity.
Good interview here with new coach http://www.a-league.com.au/article/wellington-phoe...
"Wellington Phoenix have announced Dutchman Darije Kalezic"
Ah, so we were supposed to search for a DUTCH coach, not Swiss/Bosnian. Loving the lazy Journalism.

For all those asking why we didn't get him 6 months ago, I thought Dome implied that they couldn't get the deal over the line then I'm fairly sure. All the other reasons are making a virtue of a necessity.
IE they didn't want to pay the money required
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Good interview here with new coach http://www.a-league.com.au/article/wellington-phoe...
"Wellington Phoenix have announced Dutchman Darije Kalezic"
Ah, so we were supposed to search for a DUTCH coach, not Swiss/Bosnian. Loving the lazy Journalism.
He considers himself more Dutch than Swiss, so.. Not entirely wrong.
There is something really familiar about your posting style Kwakka.
Perpetually miserable, loving a good scapegoat, fixated on one member of the Fever.
I just can't put my finger on where from.
And whose son might you be?
For all those asking why we didn't get him 6 months ago, I thought Dome implied that they couldn't get the deal over the line then I'm fairly sure. All the other reasons are making a virtue of a necessity.
IE they didn't want to pay the money required
Supporter For Ever - Keep The Faith - Foundation Member - Never Lets FAX Get In The Way Of A Good Yarn
Good interview here with new coach http://www.a-league.com.au/article/wellington-phoe...
"Wellington Phoenix have announced Dutchman Darije Kalezic"
Ah, so we were supposed to search for a DUTCH coach, not Swiss/Bosnian. Loving the lazy Journalism.
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
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