Does WPFC Have a Social/Leagues Club?

Does WPFC Have a Social/Leagues Club?

All,
Not sure on NZ's Laws and full 'culture' as such, but here in Australia, the AFL teams have a 'social' club and the NRL teams have a 'Leagues' club, where extra income can be raised through having a building (run by the club) that has poker machines, a restaraunt (or 2) and perhaps a convention/function room.

I raised this idea with MVFC some 3 or 4 years ago and to date nothing has happened.

May as well pass on the idea to someone that can use it. If Tony P reads this, he will know what I am not about.

Good luck with it.

DS

Not really anything like this in NZ - pokies laws are completely different making it unworkable (and essentially the leagues clubs are just big casinos) james dean2009-11-21 03:39:58

I know, but if it generates money for the club though, then it may help.

If MVFC had a social club, which we asked the club for at least 3 years ago, then I'd go, if you have fellow supporters of your club there, then you're more inclined to go.

If it was a rugby or Aussie Rules club, I don't go. Like attracts like.

Also, Victorian AFL clubs had social clubs even before Poker machine laws changed here around 1992/93, so something may be workable.

In aussie though you can have like 200 pokie machines.  In NZ the biggest you can have is 9 in a new establishment.  The aussie clubs really are all about the pokies - and it's a completely different story over here.

Interesting. Like I said, we've tried over heer for a few years to get MVFC to do it, they've been quiet (I emailed them AGAIN today about it) but in the meantime, I thought (without knowing full NZ law and culture and so on) that I'd pass the idea on.

If/when Tony P reads this (hope he reads it) he will know what I am talking about, and may shed some light on the matter.

I think the Nix's first priority is to invest in the playing team, and not drinking/gambling holes. Builiding relationships with local barowners and establishments like the Four Kings is the best way to go. Then the Four Kings could orgainse a social team in the local twilight league or such

AFL might have had social clubs before the changes in gambling laws, but you be damned sure that they all now just glorified pokie dens.

Even in NSWF - I've been to the Marconi Club rooms, and they had two huge rooms that probably had in excess of 200 pokies.

Bars/clubs are also getting away from the club's core business - football. If memory serves me correctly, in aussie the football sides don't own the clubs it is more like the other way around with the clubs financing the footballing side of the operations.

IIRC Temperance failed due to abysmal management and awful bouncers, plus they tried to be "classy" rather than a sports bar (ie rugby jerseys weren't in the dress code !). I don't think it was the concept itself, rather the way it went about executing it.

That and the simple fact that no sports bar could POSSIBLY compete with Four Kings

Addicks2009-11-21 15:05:59

Can't see this idea flying at all.
No NZ precedent for it.

PS Tony P can't be assumed to read every thread on here!

It wouldnt be an option for the phoenix lads because the pokie trusts cant give money to professional sports clubs. There have been loopholes that have given runners etc some Trust money but its dodgey. Threre is no way the Phoenix could get any money from the trusts.

Agree. The average poker machine earns more than the average person in parts of NSW (upwards of A$40,000/year). It is a shameful redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich, allowed by governments because of the billions of tax/licening dollars they make from it.

Worst. Suggestion. Ever.

I can see where Diegos son is coming from. its about alternate streams of income for the club. Forget the pokies it would never work for a pro sport. But there are lots of precidents all over the globe for a sports club generating extra income from non footballing activities.