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Ernie Merrick - former Phoenix manager

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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

came on forums to check score. Saw Steve-o had posted in a couple of threads. Knew the result without needing to check any further. 


Allegedly

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over 9 years ago

Tegal wrote:

came on forums to check score. Saw Steve-o had posted in a couple of threads. Knew the result without needing to check any further. 

6 defeats in a row. Getting a bit hard to roll out the line that I only post when we lose? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 9 years ago

I would have liked for us to bring back Trani as an assistant after he parted ways with city, the jets are dung well under him.

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over 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

I would have liked for us to bring back Trani as an assistant after he parted ways with city, the jets are dung well under him.

The Nix did better with his training than when Ricki was left on his own.

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over 9 years ago

Clearly we need more Trani's in the club.

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over 9 years ago

Fenix wrote:

Clearly we need more Trani's in the club.

and shemales!

I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 9 years ago

Cosimo wrote:

Fenix wrote:

Clearly we need more Trani's in the club.

and shemales!

cringe

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over 9 years ago

is Ernie under the cosh? 6 in a row is not a good look and in other leagues questions about his disposal would be starting to bubble...

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over 9 years ago

If Flavio Briatore was in charge, Ernie would have been gone after the 2nd defeat and the Nix would have been on their 3rd manager within 6 games!

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over 9 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

If Flavio Briatore was in charge, Ernie would have been gone after the 2nd defeat and the Nix would have been on their 3rd manager within 6 games!

Or Massimo Cellino, currently having fun at my club Leeds.

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over 9 years ago

Lucky we don't have criminals in charge then.

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over 9 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Lucky we don't have criminals in charge then.

Not anymore, anyway!

a.haak

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over 9 years ago

Looking at our schedule, we only have 3 games in the afternoon all season. Should we be looking at moving our teams training schedule to much later in the day, allow players to sleep in, to get their bodies better acclimatised to when they are playing.

According to circadian cycles, athletic performance is generally considered to peak in the late afternoon; since National Basketball Association games are almost exclusively held at night, western teams travelling east benefit from playing closer to their peak time.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/08/...

We are always travelling east and playing games when our bodies are not at their peak, surely simulating game times for training and changing our players circadian rhythms a bit could help.

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over 9 years ago

Steve-O wrote:

clearly a decent guy and has some ability as a coach, but he seems very fixed in his ideas and I don't think he's capable of changing anything for the better. He can tinker with the line up but the way we play never changes!

This is what we eventually discovered about Ricki, isn't it?


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over 9 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Steve-O wrote:

clearly a decent guy and has some ability as a coach, but he seems very fixed in his ideas and I don't think he's capable of changing anything for the better. He can tinker with the line up but the way we play never changes!

This is what we eventually discovered about Ricki, isn't it?

Ricki's gone.

I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

Cosimo wrote:

Doloras wrote:

Steve-O wrote:

clearly a decent guy and has some ability as a coach, but he seems very fixed in his ideas and I don't think he's capable of changing anything for the better. He can tinker with the line up but the way we play never changes!

This is what we eventually discovered about Ricki, isn't it?

Ricki's gone.

Ricki come back! Any kind of fool could see, we were wrong, and we just can't win without you.....



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over 9 years ago

Doloras wrote:

Steve-O wrote:

clearly a decent guy and has some ability as a coach, but he seems very fixed in his ideas and I don't think he's capable of changing anything for the better. He can tinker with the line up but the way we play never changes!

This is what we eventually discovered about Ricki, isn't it?

I mean...Vuc fans could've told us this 4 years ago.

a.haak

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over 9 years ago
Pressure is on
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over 9 years ago

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/85573486/wellington-phoenixs-home-form-cause-for-concern

"During the first (almost) six seasons of the club's existence under Ricki Herbert the Phoenix won 50 per cent of their home games.

In the three seasons since current manager Ernie Merrick took the reins that record has fallen to 33 per cent, while the proportion of home games lost has almost doubled 43 per cent."

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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

Tried to just delete my post, but could only edit. Anyway, seven defeats in a row. Zero goals in 270 minutes (or more?). Something has to give.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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over 9 years ago

Noose tightening?

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over 9 years ago

I think Ernie's done a good job cultivating a good culture around the club - though that good culture was mostly there when Ricki was around too.

I think he's done a very poor job recruiting this season. A-Rod should've been paid out if he wasn't going to be a starter, and Finkler shouldn't have been signed at all in my opinion.

Signing Tratt and Parkhouse so late made no sense whatsoever also. The A-League has the longest pre-season in existence and it's not like we had to wait for these players to finish contracts at other clubs. Just really poor.

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over 9 years ago

I think Ernie is a bigger con than Hudson I wonder why the Victory and the crowd in Hong Kong got rid of him he may be a good coach but can't recruit and pick a team and his jokes a one liners are getting on my tits.

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over 9 years ago

charger1 wrote:

I think Ernie is a bigger con than Hudson I wonder why the Victory and the crowd in Hong Kong got rid of him he may be a good coach but can't recruit and pick a team and his jokes a one liners are getting on my tits.

Ernie doesn't talk a big game, he's quiet and unassuming and always talks up his team and never himself from what I can see. He's also the most successful coach in A-League history. You might say he's past it but definitely not that he's a con - he's the opposite of a con, he hardly ever makes excuses and always lets his team do the talking.

I have no idea what you're on about.

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over 9 years ago

valeo wrote:

I think Ernie's done a good job cultivating a good culture around the club - though that good culture was mostly there when Ricki was around too.

I think he's done a very poor job recruiting this season. A-Rod should've been paid out if he wasn't going to be a starter, and Finkler shouldn't have been signed at all in my opinion.

Signing Tratt and Parkhouse so late made no sense whatsoever also. The A-League has the longest pre-season in existence and it's not like we had to wait for these players to finish contracts at other clubs. Just really poor.

I'm assuming he was after other players but they fell through. Also he said that the recruitment strategy changed after the FFA refused to reschedule the Phoenix games in the international windows, so it could be we were waiting to see if we were recruiting for depth, or recruiting to replace international players.

A-Rod was offered a one year extension at the end of last year, if they wanted to get rid of him they didn't need to sign the +1.

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Ryan wrote:

A-Rod was offered a one year extension at the end of last year, if they wanted to get rid of him they didn't need to sign the +1.

Which makes the fact that 3 games in he's out of the squad completely but not listed as injured even more baffling. What a waste of an import spot - think about if we had an import starting RB or DM right now. Unless he had some sort of Totori style auto extension after playing so many games. But if we thought he wasn't a starter then why play him at the end of last season when we were already cooked anyway.

I am a big A-Rod fan but the fact that he's been kept taking up an import spot but is barely a squad player makes me wish we had let him go. It's nonsensical strategy to invest a very limited resource (an import spot) on a non-essential function (squad filler)

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over 9 years ago

valeo wrote:

I think Ernie's done a good job cultivating a good culture around the club - though that good culture was mostly there when Ricki was around too.

I think he's done a very poor job recruiting this season. A-Rod should've been paid out if he wasn't going to be a starter, and Finkler shouldn't have been signed at all in my opinion.

Signing Tratt and Parkhouse so late made no sense whatsoever also. The A-League has the longest pre-season in existence and it's not like we had to wait for these players to finish contracts at other clubs. Just really poor.

So getting rid of A Rod and not signing Finkler would mean we get better players.Sorry im not convinced that we are in position to attract these better players that some seem to think want to come here.Even with an extended off season we  made those late signings so that suggests that its not as if players are falling over themselves to come here.

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over 9 years ago

reg22 wrote:

there are better imports than A-Rod in the SSprem

And the point is,does it really matter how good they are elsewhere.Dosnt mean we can attract them here. Sadly

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over 9 years ago

I think that regardless of how easy or hard it is to attract players to come here the fact remains that A-Rod is taking up an import slot and if he's not playing its a waste. Im just a bit dismayed that we dont seem to have anyone who can score goals. You can look at Costa, Finkler and co but none of them really score the goals that a relatively decent striker can

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over 9 years ago

paullt wrote:

I think that regardless of how easy or hard it is to attract players to come here the fact remains that A-Rod is taking up an import slot and if he's not playing its a waste. Im just a bit dismayed that we dont seem to have anyone who can score goals. You can look at Costa, Finkler and co but none of them really score the goals that a relatively decent striker can

Krishna can score goals. Watson actually has a pretty decent return rate too, albeit from not many games at pro level (good record in lower grades though). I think the real problem is often the shape of our team makes it hard for Krishna, Kosta etc to find space. I think that looked to be improving on Sunday too (and we did score a legit goal and Kosta may well have scored another if it wasn't for crap offside calls)

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over 9 years ago

I questioned the Finkler signing at the time and said that perhaps there was a logic in this that we were not aware of. At the moment, I still do not see the rationale in the Finkler signing purely because of duplicity amongst imports/midfielders that we already have.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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Jeff Vader wrote:

I questioned the Finkler signing at the time and said that perhaps there was a logic in this that we were not aware of. At the moment, I still do not see the rationale in the Finkler signing purely because of duplicity amongst imports/midfielders that we already have.

duplicity = deceitfulness, deception, double-dealing, skullduggery, treachery, sharp practice, etc etc.

sorry Jeff :)

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over 9 years ago

Great job on the 'Yellow Army' chant on the weekend



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over 9 years ago

paullt wrote:

I think that regardless of how easy or hard it is to attract players to come here the fact remains that A-Rod is taking up an import slot and if he's not playing its a waste. Im just a bit dismayed that we dont seem to have anyone who can score goals. You can look at Costa, Finkler and co but none of them really score the goals that a relatively decent striker can

Krishna can score goals. Watson actually has a pretty decent return rate too, albeit from not many games at pro level (good record in lower grades though). I think the real problem is often the shape of our team makes it hard for Krishna, Kosta etc to find space. I think that looked to be improving on Sunday too (and we did score a legit goal and Kosta may well have scored another if it wasn't for crap offside calls)

I think this really sums it up: "we acquire decent players who performed well elsewhere and who slowly and inevitably turn into ineffective underperforming laggards once they put a black and yellow stripey on".

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 9 years ago

Mainland FC wrote:

paullt wrote:

I think that regardless of how easy or hard it is to attract players to come here the fact remains that A-Rod is taking up an import slot and if he's not playing its a waste. Im just a bit dismayed that we dont seem to have anyone who can score goals. You can look at Costa, Finkler and co but none of them really score the goals that a relatively decent striker can

Krishna can score goals. Watson actually has a pretty decent return rate too, albeit from not many games at pro level (good record in lower grades though). I think the real problem is often the shape of our team makes it hard for Krishna, Kosta etc to find space. I think that looked to be improving on Sunday too (and we did score a legit goal and Kosta may well have scored another if it wasn't for crap offside calls)

I think this really sums it up: "we acquire decent players who performed well elsewhere and who slowly and inevitably turn into ineffective underperforming laggards once they put a black and yellow stripey on".

that's not true with a number of examples. Burns, Krishna, Riera, Sigmund, Lia, to name a few.
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Ryan wrote:

Mainland FC wrote:

paullt wrote:

I think that regardless of how easy or hard it is to attract players to come here the fact remains that A-Rod is taking up an import slot and if he's not playing its a waste. Im just a bit dismayed that we dont seem to have anyone who can score goals. You can look at Costa, Finkler and co but none of them really score the goals that a relatively decent striker can

Krishna can score goals. Watson actually has a pretty decent return rate too, albeit from not many games at pro level (good record in lower grades though). I think the real problem is often the shape of our team makes it hard for Krishna, Kosta etc to find space. I think that looked to be improving on Sunday too (and we did score a legit goal and Kosta may well have scored another if it wasn't for crap offside calls)

I think this really sums it up: "we acquire decent players who performed well elsewhere and who slowly and inevitably turn into ineffective underperforming laggards once they put a black and yellow stripey on".

that's not true with a number of examples. Burns, Krishna, Riera, Sigmund, Lia, to name a few.

Of course it is not true. I was taking the proverbial.

I would add Manny Muscat and Michael Boxall to that list.

Actually, getting outplayed quite a bit these days

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over 9 years ago

ballane wrote:

reg22 wrote:

there are better imports than A-Rod in the SSprem

And the point is,does it really matter how good they are elsewhere.Dosnt mean we can attract them here. Sadly

yeah, sadly this seems to be the case

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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

i think the finkler signing makes sense simply because once he settles he should be better than any of the other attacking midfielders. i think mcglinchey further back is good and ditto roly

in terms of personnel i'd say we're weak at full back and defensive midfield

but our real problem is our tactics. narrow and predictable. we must be so easy to defend against. keep the back four close and deep and plonk a holding midfielder in front to stifle finkler and we're toast

opposition full backs can stay narrow because we do not cross the ball

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