Actually, the De Silva yellow being in time added on in that match (90+3) makes it really feel like it's him. Be good to see the footage of that card...
Had a look, De Silva hauls down the ball carrier from behind out near the sideline. There are a lot of other Mac players close by when he commits the foul and they are leading 2-0 with a minute to go. Who knows, could just as easily be one of those little brain explosions from an amped up player as anything sinister.
The Baccus foul does look kind of ridiculous. Nadal gets the ball in his own half with not a single Sydney player in front or even near him, three Mac defenders sitting deep plus the keeper and Baccus practically leaps onto his back two handed to bring him down. No way was it a dangerous situation. Incredibly stupid foul.
Lewis gets dispossessed and goes to ground thinking he was fouled but doesn't get the whistle. Chases back and throws a forearm into the player who he thought fouled him. Looks to me like the classic frustrated reaction of an aggrieved player getting his own back with a petty foul.
Actually, the De Silva yellow being in time added on in that match (90+3) makes it really feel like it's him. Be good to see the footage of that card...
Had a look, De Silva hauls down the ball carrier from behind out near the sideline. There are a lot of other Mac players close by when he commits the foul and they are leading 2-0 with a minute to go. Who knows, could just as easily be one of those little brain explosions from an amped up player as anything sinister.
And the Lewis one in that same match - which one looks more dodgy?
That's such a bad move by him! He's ruined his rep there... hopefully not his future career.
Poor dude has had a rough few years! :(
Totally agree he has had a rough couple of years. But in professional sport this is beyond defence IMHO. Nothing short of life ban if guilty. It cannot be anything else, if only to deter others taking the same path.
Can't see it being a life ban... maybe a year and a fine? What do they do in the UK for this sort of thing?
That's such a bad move by him! He's ruined his rep there... hopefully not his future career.
Poor dude has had a rough few years! :(
Totally agree he has had a rough couple of years. But in professional sport this is beyond defence IMHO. Nothing short of life ban if guilty. It cannot be anything else, if only to deter others taking the same path.
Can't see it being a life ban... maybe a year and a fine? What do they do in the UK for this sort of thing?
Tonali and Toney are the most recent ones from the UK and got around a year ban with a fine but that was against them betting on football games rather than actually doing anything during a game to make the bet win irrc.
So not sure if that would change what the punishment would be?
That's such a bad move by him! He's ruined his rep there... hopefully not his future career.
Poor dude has had a rough few years! :(
Totally agree he has had a rough couple of years. But in professional sport this is beyond defence IMHO. Nothing short of life ban if guilty. It cannot be anything else, if only to deter others taking the same path.
Can't see it being a life ban... maybe a year and a fine? What do they do in the UK for this sort of thing?
Tonali and Toney are the most recent ones from the UK and got around a year ban with a fine but that was against them betting on football games rather than actually doing anything during a game to make the bet win irrc.
So not sure if that would change what the punishment would be?
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That's such a bad move by him! He's ruined his rep there... hopefully not his future career.
Poor dude has had a rough few years! :(
Totally agree he has had a rough couple of years. But in professional sport this is beyond defence IMHO. Nothing short of life ban if guilty. It cannot be anything else, if only to deter others taking the same path.
Can't see it being a life ban... maybe a year and a fine? What do they do in the UK for this sort of thing?
Quick google search came up with this >> https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63302914
I'd say the bans coming will be career ending from a playing perspective - even for the 27 year old. Unless they can prove diminished responsibility or some such due to the powerful influence of Uli.
That's such a bad move by him! He's ruined his rep there... hopefully not his future career.
Poor dude has had a rough few years! :(
Totally agree he has had a rough couple of years. But in professional sport this is beyond defence IMHO. Nothing short of life ban if guilty. It cannot be anything else, if only to deter others taking the same path.
Can't see it being a life ban... maybe a year and a fine? What do they do in the UK for this sort of thing?
Tonali and Toney are the most recent ones from the UK and got around a year ban with a fine but that was against them betting on football games rather than actually doing anything during a game to make the bet win irrc.
So not sure if that would change what the punishment would be?
Tonali and Toney were both guilty of placing bets on games with a bookmaker. Something that you or I could do by walking into a TAB in NZ. IIRC games that they were not involved in. Not against the law but not allowed in the code of conduct for a professional player.
What is being alleged today is a different ball game. Taking actions as a player within a match at the bequest of a betting agent. Many times more serious IMHO. Life ban is appropriate
Imagine throwing away your career for $10k. What an idiot.
Hey, it was probably multiple instances of $10k. Still dumb, but proportionally less so.
It was two games. Did he get a yellow in each of them? I thought it was only one.
From the cop's press release: "the number of yellow cards were allegedly manipulated during games played on Friday 24 November 2023 and Saturday 9 December 2023. Failed attempts were then allegedly made to control the number of yellow cards during games on Saturday 20 April 2024 and Saturday 4 May 2024."
Uli is the one reported to have been paying $10k per yellow to his team mates right, one wonders what he was gaining from this. I assume a truck load more cash from whoever was placing the bets, or else why take the risk?
Im going to guess that maybe they both have bad gambling debts and this might have something to do with it, otherwise such a dumb move to sacrifice salary for short term cash.
Uli is the one reported to have been paying $10k per yellow to his team mates right, one wonders what he was gaining from this. I assume a truck load more cash from whoever was placing the bets, or else why take the risk?
Yeah you'd suspect he was getting paid 10s of 000s to make it worth it. He will be in the biggest trouble... and like you have all said, probably a life ban.
BUT we probably don't know the full story on the others. Lewis seems like such a focused guy, he must be hating himself right now!!
You have to wonder though- it’s okay- let’s arrest the former Phoenix connections on the eve of their sell out game. They could have done it any time, like the investigators in the AC Milan case did…
If it’s these 3, you think that’s all it is? And Warne and Waugh M. were just providing weather info to that bookie. Yet that investigation never went anywhere.
Not being on Fox or 7 has two of the Aussie empires against you. Simon Hill isn’t guna help you that much against the likes of the Packers or Murdochs.
... I am trying to work out whether you are seriously implying that the New South Wales state police deliberately did this to *checks notes* nobble the Phoenix?!? The first thing to note is why would anyone from Sydney do anything to help MVFC!
But much more seriously, I think they've made their argument pretty well. The last (attempted) crime happened in the elimination playoff. The arrests had to be made before the players went overseas. So there was a quite short time frame.
... I am trying to work out whether you are seriously implying that the New South Wales state police deliberately did this to *checks notes* nobble the Phoenix?!? The first thing to note is why would anyone from Sydney do anything to help MVFC!
But much more seriously, I think they've made their argument pretty well. The last (attempted) crime happened in the elimination playoff. The arrests had to be made before the players went overseas. So there was a quite short time frame.
I think it’s a miracle that with the Aussie gambling culture and the ubiquitous sport that Bacchus is the first Aussie I’ve heard of arrested for spot or match fixing.
I imagine if interests have the potential to get seriously hurt…
Not Fox or 7….
But sure what you say is…kind of fair enough. NSW cops playing Siccario dress ups to arrest a Kiwi and a Mexican.
... I am trying to work out whether you are seriously implying that the New South Wales state police deliberately did this to *checks notes* nobble the Phoenix?!? The first thing to note is why would anyone from Sydney do anything to help MVFC!
But much more seriously, I think they've made their argument pretty well. The last (attempted) crime happened in the elimination playoff. The arrests had to be made before the players went overseas. So there was a quite short time frame.
I think it’s a miracle that with the Aussie gambling culture and the ubiquitous sport that Bacchus is the first Aussie I’ve heard of arrested for spot or match fixing.
I imagine if interests have the potential to get seriously hurt…
Not Fox or 7….
But sure what you say is…kind of fair enough. NSW cops playing Siccario dress ups to arrest a Kiwi and a Mexican.
With the Aussies they are aside from the Indian stars, some of the highest paid players in the world. Cummins as Aussie captain would be on a base salary 5-10 times higher than Southee. Even a state player with a BBL contract could be on $200-300K plus. More again with other T20 gigs around the world, or some English county stuff. In an old Melbs banking role came across D Hussey's fins once (too late to sack me) and he was doing okay, and that was 10+ years ago.
In cricket those mostly caught match fixing have been from poorer cricket nations where the money on offer can be life changing. Or like Cairns you are just not very smart. Met the guy once, and have friends who went to school with him. Great sportsman. Not much else. Lou Vincent had a mental health battle going on, and it seems he was manipulated by Player X. Tuffey I don't know. But cricketers were paid alot less back then before T20 took off.
Warne & Waugh were guilty 30 years ago in another era, pre the Hanse Cronje mess. Today yes they would face bans, ACB wouldn't be able to sweep it under the carpet like they did back in 94/95.
A Collingwood AFL player got banned for 10 matches in 2019, for three Collingwood-outcome bets across three separate games, which included wagering on himself.
A Tigers NRL player Tim Simona got a NRL life ban in 2017, for betting on NRL games. He went in played in France a few years later, but basically his career was sunk.
The various codes hammer into the players, you offend you will be punished. Davila likely thought, he could get away with it by taking his bets to the UK via Sth America.
You think? Or narcissistic? The fact she even thought that you could bet a on red card really makes me wonder.
Would never cross my mind even in jest
But it did hers?
I find it uncomfortable to speculate on her involvement based on a random tweet. There were lots of reds being dished out across the league, and it was probably a reflection of that which now, within the context, is worded awfully. I mean sure, maybe she knew? But I doubt it and I don't reckon speculating about that is fair
