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To fine, or not to fine?

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almost 7 years ago

Feverish wrote:

if Morrison isn't bothered why are we?

Because the FFA are a pack of cods

And in fairness supporters of any club would be pissed with this

360footballnews.com

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almost 7 years ago

el grapadura wrote:

Walsall Boy wrote:

It is crap I know for this to be levied, but did we sign a contract or something where this was spelt out as a consequence of these supposed metrics?

The article quite clearly explains this, doesn't it?

Anyway, for me the really interesting bit in there is this:

There is one month left until the June 30 deadline for the A-League's independence from the FFA to be settled. What it looks like or whether that deadline is met remains to be seen. The Sydney Morning Herald understands there is some reticence from FFA about full independence because it may give Fox Sports a legal opening to renegotiate the A-League's broadcast deal.

Well I suppose if Fox slash the broadcasting deal in their "renegotiation" the FFA will be able to fine all the Aussie clubs as their broadcasting revenue no longer meets expectations ; - )

Does anyone know how much of a role the Nix had in negotiating the deal with Sky, and whether the deal was noticeably better or worse than what the FFA had negotiated over the previous numerous years? (And I should ask what kind of mickey mouse organisation makes individual clubs negotiate their own broadcasting deal - or were they just acknowledging the FFA's incompetence in previous negotiations?)

It is no wonder that all of the A-League clubs want to be rid of the FFA's governance when they pull this kind of shark.

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almost 7 years ago

Buzzing wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

Walsall Boy wrote:

It is crap I know for this to be levied, but did we sign a contract or something where this was spelt out as a consequence of these supposed metrics?

The article quite clearly explains this, doesn't it?

Anyway, for me the really interesting bit in there is this:

There is one month left until the June 30 deadline for the A-League's independence from the FFA to be settled. What it looks like or whether that deadline is met remains to be seen. The Sydney Morning Herald understands there is some reticence from FFA about full independence because it may give Fox Sports a legal opening to renegotiate the A-League's broadcast deal.

Well I suppose if Fox slash the broadcasting deal in their "renegotiation" the FFA will be able to fine all the Aussie clubs as their broadcasting revenue no longer meets expectations ; - )

Does anyone know how much of a role the Nix had in negotiating the deal with Sky, and whether the deal was noticeably better or worse than what the FFA had negotiated over the previous numerous years? (And I should ask what kind of mickey mouse organisation makes individual clubs negotiate their own broadcasting deal - or were they just acknowledging the FFA's incompetence in previous negotiations?)

It is no wonder that all of the A-League clubs want to be rid of the FFA's governance when they pull this kind of shark.

If Fox were to slash the broadcasting deal, that could potentially affect the viability of the league as we know it, so that's a pressing concern for everyone involved, and goes beyond just the Nix issues with the FFA.

The FFA negotiated the Sky deal, and it's pretty paltry (from memory, in the low six-figures). The FFA's argument there is that the Nix should be able to command a much larger share of the NZ market, and increase the visibility and marketability of the league in NZ so that the broadcasting rights to it are valued more highly by Sky and in turn lead to a better commercial TV deal on this side of the ditch.

The counter-argument from the clubs is that the restrictions and obstacles put by the FFA on clubs in general, and Nix in particular, combined with the significant operational cost involved with the FFA running the league, make it very difficult to grow the marketability and commercial value of the league. The clubs' argument is that the removal of the FFA from the league would mean that the operational cost to run the league would be lower, and a club-run league entity would be better placed to negotiate better commercial deals. 

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almost 7 years ago

Not that one usually wishes ill health on anyone but I hope the senior FFA members and those little pricks from local federations that are stalling the creation of the new independent A League suffer something  painful. I'm over their fudgeing win at any cost attitude. those pricks are the very reason why the A League is losing fans. Their selfish greed is exacting a serious price on far too many.

Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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almost 7 years ago

Blew.2 wrote:

It is not a fine it is a commercial agreement made between the two parties based on performance when the licence extension was signed.

Just Gallop diverting attention away from  the Independent league work.

Given in the article it says "chairman Rob Morrison said they were yet to receive anything formal" then there can be no doubt that this has once again been deliberately leaked by Gallop (not that there was much doubt about that as it seems to be his modus operandi).

The classic Gallop dickishness comes through in the line "recognition of the low value of the New Zealand market to the A-League". Of course, if the club hadn't been hamstrung by Gallop's attitude towards the club and his consequent actions (as well as his general incompetence) the club would currently contributing significantly more value to the league.

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almost 7 years ago

Lonegunmen wrote:

Not that one usually wishes ill health on anyone but I hope the senior FFA members and those little pricks from local federations that are stalling the creation of the new independent A League suffer something  painful. I'm over their fudgeing win at any cost attitude. those pricks are the very reason why the A League is losing fans. Their selfish greed is exacting a serious price on far too many.

That win mentality is Australian business psychology. it can be a pita to deal with especially because the expectations are that everyone will agree to the impossible knowing there will be renegotiations in the future and then it's all about blinking last.

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almost 7 years ago · edited almost 7 years ago · History

Ryan wrote:

Feverish wrote:

if Morrison isn't bothered why are we?

It's wearing to constantly have bad news with things which are often out of the clubs control, even when good things happen there's usually something bad just around the corner to take the shine off it.

I'm not bothered if Rob is not bothered.

We didn't meet what he signed up for and there are financial implications. End of story.

What would concern me is if Rob didn't honour what he signed up for - then we are fudgeed.

If we pay then great, Ausi football knows we are good for it and the more likely we are to remain

I didn't know about this arrangement but provided it is there and it is honoured then that's actually good news


Auckland will rise once more

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almost 7 years ago

Ryan wrote:

Feverish wrote:

if Morrison isn't bothered why are we?

It's wearing to constantly have bad news with things which are often out of the clubs control, even when good things happen there's usually something bad just around the corner to take the shine off it.

I'm not bothered if Rob is not bothered.

We didn't meet what he signed up for and there are financial implications. End of story.

What would concern me is if Rob didn't honour what he signed up for - then we are fudgeed.

If we pay then great, Ausi football knows we are good for it and the more likely we are to remain

I didn't know about this arrangement but provided it is there and it is honoured then that's actually good news

AP out of curiosity did you go to the game at EP verus the Victory?

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almost 7 years ago

One of many


Auckland will rise once more

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almost 7 years ago

One of many

Fair enough, just checking you are helping Rob & Welnix out with some cash.

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