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Geographic isolation provides continued mediocrity

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Geographic isolation provides continued mediocrity
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I dunno about you Nux supporters, but I am beginning to see a common link between Nuxland and Perth.
 
The two most isolated outposts in the A-League finished the bottom two positions last season and look set to do the same next season. How can the A-League remain profitable for clubs in these cities when there is significant disadvantage of trying to compete for top quality players that seek not to move home. As Townsville and Gold Coast are added, how does Wellington and Perth compete to one day get further up the ladder then 2nd last and last. I know Perth Glory has to pay more for players, I would imagine the Nux would as well.
 
The continued participation of both clubs in the A-League needs significant pressure on FFA officials to recognise the competitive disadvantage Perth and Nuxland have during trade period when they compete on a level playing field with clubs who have kept an established A-League playing list since season 1.
 
Its time for supporters to actually look at whether the A-League is a fair playing field...
 
I think the case study of last season, the inability for Perth and Wellington to significantly increase the standards of their players from the season before for Version 4 deliver an indication to the FFA that something has to be done...
 
Otherwise fans of both clubs will continue to see a growing gap based on geography and players choosing not to move to a particular city because its to far away. Salary cap concession or some other policy to bridge the gap is needed.
 
Do Nux fans also believe the competition is harder to win from the isolated posts because of the competitive disadvantage we have of attracting and increasing the quality of our squad?
 
 
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Can we delete this post?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I had some leaning towards Egan's point...until I remembered that (having lived there for a number of years) Liverpool has done all right in England and there's no more of an outpost than there
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Geographic isolation has got nothing to do with the mediocrity. Its the mindset of the people that needs to change...
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Egan wrote:
I dunno about you Nux supporters, but I am beginning to see a common link between Nuxland and Perth.
 
 
 
I think the case study of last season, the inability for Perth and Wellington to significantly increase the standards of their players from the season before for Version 4 deliver an indication to the FFA that something has to be done...
 
 
 
 
 
Haha, yeah. Um we had no good recruits in the offseason. No senior All Whites like Leo Bertos or Mulligan. No players rated as the best in their position in the league like Durante and McKain.
 
Based on this, your argument falls over.
 
Get optimistic, or even realistic, and see the the Phoenix have massive potential - heard how the Preseason Cup went? Or did you miss that as well as the transfer news in the last few months?
Oh Wellington is wonderful. We got the wind, the rain and the phoenix. Oh Wellington is wonderful.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think Moss's performance shold act as an inspiration for others to do better after yesterdays game.
Proud to have attended the first 175 Consecutive "Home" Wellington Phoenix "A League" Games !!

The Ruf, The Ruf, The Ruf is on Fire!!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
what about when Perth were good back in the day?

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Great sense of humor with the "Nux" thing. No really. Muppet.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
He actually kind of has a point...Doesnt the NRL alter salary cap based on cost of living travel etc for ths very reason. Though this of course makes the salary cap flexible to the point that its just down right dodgy and means the salary cap is constantly broken and a joke.
 
However i think this argument more applies to perth,than us. We're not all that far away geographically,and it certainly isnt a disadvantage for us.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lonegunmen wrote:
I think Moss's performance shold act as an inspiration for others to do better after yesterdays game.
 
Yet you voted for Dodd in the MOTM poll...
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It may have an impact when it comes to attracting players, which is hard with a salary cap, but as hellobeaver said we did in fact manage to haul in some great talent, their just not firing.
You know we belong together...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
There has to be something about the amount of travel and lack of away support we get that gives us a disadvantage.

We're also losing out in the home attendance figures with pretty much 0 travelling support every game.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well we should be working towards making Westpac a fortress.

But one or two long trips every so often versus having to fly across the ditch (or the outback in Perth's case) every second week? I know what I'd prefer.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Its only a 2-3 hour flight. A lot of other A league sides would have to make about the same within aussie sometimes even.
Only perth can use this as an excuse. Certainly not us

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Agent 47 wrote:
Can we delete this post?


Nah, it looks like plenty of posters. He does have half a point tho.

Anyway, travelling has improved and we are talking about the A-league here. If it was about the MLS in the US, then he might actually have a good point, but definitely no for the A-league.

Now if we only we have a club at the Antarctica . . . .
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