Getting Shirty

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

i am sure banksy will be ever so pleased to see his art work feature on the rebel t-shirts...

http://www.banksy.co.uk/indoors/index2.html

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

So these designs aren't even yours...?

I mean seriously!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The designs are all sh*t - no need to censor them as noone in their right mind would buy one

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

Arsenal wrote:

Don't tell me you guys concerned about a budget t-shirt competitor?

I tried to PM you on it to discuss it when it was removed, but your inbox was full.

Fair enough. As someone above said though, the t-shirts are so rubbish that I doubt mention of them warrants censorship.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Does tnix have legal permission to use Ricki's image and YF's name? In that case, out of protecting our own asses, "censorship" can be justified. It's in the vain of a few months ago when, if I remember rightly, posts discussing how to downloaded pirated copies of Football Manager were removed.

If they're legit, then I see no threat with them being disucssed in off-topic. We don't need to endorse them - nor would we in our right mind do so! robbwatson2008-07-22 10:31:56

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

robbwatson wrote:

Does tnix have legal permission to use Ricki's image and YF's name? In that case, out of protecting our own asses, "censorship" can be justified.
We don't need to endorse them - nor would we in outr[sic] right mind do so!

Huh? I signed up to a website to support a club, not to join one.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Okay, if you want to split hairs...

Out of protecting YF's ass, they cannot be seeming to endorsing an illegal operation - least of all one that is low quality and of direct competition. In order to keep on the good side of a) the law and b) the club, censorship can be justifiable - and often the right choice.

I use personal pronouns because I consider myself part of the Yellow Fever community. I consider pretty much everyone on this site or in the Fever Zone to be Fever - not just the mods.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I liked the Sex Pistols design - I'm probably going to get one. I don't really see the problem myself. When I saw them handing out stickers, my first reaction was, "cool - if we're attracting unofficial gear providers then we are growing up and being accepted as proper club."

Using the Yellow Fever name might contravene copyright, but we don't want to "do an Arsenal " with the Gooner name. Though this is different (to be the same, the Phoenix would have to try and claim we cannot use "Yellow Fever" without their permission). Ricki's image is I believe in the public domain, so no issue with that being used.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

saw someone on trade me today selling a legend yellow shirt with ricki on the front almost a copy of retro ricki just with no words around it,not cool.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

We need to chill out a bit here.

It's great that other people are popping up selling Phoenix supporters gear. That shows the club's popularity is growing.

No one place can ever produce t shirts that everyone will like so there'll always be a market for more variety.

We, the Fever Exec, know that you - our members - value this place and the work that goes into running it, as well as the other things we do to support football in the community.

So far I'm fairly sure the other t shirt outfits are just in it for a quick buck but all fair play to them.

We don't like them advertising in here because it costs us a fair amount of money to run this website. Other companies pay us either in cash or kind to advertise on here to help offset the cost. We don't let people advertise on here for free, regardless of what they're selling. It's not sinister and it's not censorship it's just that some people put their money in to support us and others are just keen to rip off what they can from the place. We don't like that attitude.

We also don't like people pretending to be us. It's called "passing off" and it aint legal. For that very reason we didn't use the word Phoenix on any of our shirt designs. Similarly anyone using the phrase Yellow Fever is passing themselves off as being us and thus breaking the law. We don't like that much either.

Especially we don't like the association between Yellow Fever and the Italian (or Melbournian) Ultras movements. We don't condone any of that sh!t at all. So we've taken a special dislike to T Nix's YF Ultras t shirt 1) because it rips off our name and 2) because it links it to the Ultras. T Nix can expect a letter in the post about that one.

But generally I want to call everyone back to the point Football_mum made earlier. Anyone supporting the Nix is a friend of the Fever. Just don't do it at other supporters' expense.

Carry on.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Smithy wrote:

Fair call. It's also fair on those that do buy advertising space - you don't want to displace their support.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

SiNZ wrote:

Smithy wrote:

Fair call. It's also fair on those that do buy advertising space - you don't want to displace their support.

I can see the point about the copyrights, and the need to protect brands and the club, fair enough.

I guess that didnt come into it when the Got Pie T shirts were freely promoted on here???

Or did some of the proceeds go to the club/Yellow Fever??

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

hepatitis wrote:

I guess that didnt come into it when the Got Pie T shirts were freely promoted on here???

Or did some of the proceeds go to the club/Yellow Fever??

It wasn't a profit making excercise... a limited run that was sold at manufactured price as I understand it.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

hepatitis wrote:

I guess that didnt come into it when the Got Pie T shirts were freely promoted on here???

Or did some of the proceeds go to the club/Yellow Fever??

Whoah there - take it easy big guy. This tnix joker is free to make his shirts IMHO - I just don't see how you expect people to promote it for free.

I hardly think Stirling Sports would let Rebel go and and advertise in their shop - same rules apply.Get In There Son2008-07-22 13:49:07

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Is anyone else gettin dizzy????

E + R + O

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

nothing wrong with the word ultra.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

If you're a dirty facist bastard that is...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

sounds like me then...

in saying that yellow fever is actually a virus so is just as bad a name as ultras lol

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

The Fever is contagious... Ultras are just c**ts

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Get In There Son wrote:

The Fever is contagious... Ultras are just c**ts

some ultra supporters groups in the world are better than others stop genralising.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

And your call on virus' wasn't a generalisation?

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Hard News wrote:

hepatitis wrote:

I guess that didnt come into it when the Got Pie T shirts were freely
promoted on here??? Or did some of the proceeds go to the club/Yellow
Fever??

It wasn't a profit making excercise... a limited run that was sold at manufactured price as I understand it.

And as it happens I asked for one and was told I would recieve an email with deposit details,which hasn't happened

!Gangsta!2008-07-22 14:09:25

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Get In There Son wrote:

And your call on virus' wasn't a generalisation?

its a known fact that yellow fever is a virus - it isn't a known fact that every ultra supporters group in the world supports violence and bottle throwing.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

That's debatable old son... but what a stupid thing to be arguing over anyway

Point taken

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Smithy wrote:

But generally I want to call everyone back to the point Football_mum made earlier. Anyone supporting the Nix is a friend of the Fever. Just don't do it at other supporters' expense.

mum knows best!

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

probably just as well they are t-shirts and not knickers - things are getting twisted enough already

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Is that News and his trusty padlock I can see lurking in the background?

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

bobboltontawa2 wrote:

sounds like me then...

in saying that yellow fever is actually a virus so is just as bad a name as ultras lol

This reminds me - I wore my Yellow Fever polo to my microbiology lab last week. Needless to say my lecturers were amused

/hijack

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Jag wrote:

Is that News and his trusty padlock I can see lurking in the background?

The time is surely nigh...

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

In before the lock. Thread of the year imo.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

IBTL !!!

Oh, hang on.

I'm not sure I dare lock it. I'll be accused of cencorship.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

well if HN wont do it, ill have to get my wheel clamp out and immobilise this thread.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Kill it, go on, kill it

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

can someone name who actually makes these shirts because the address on there website directs you to 20 paromuoana street porirua - which is wellington beds :0 bobboltontawa22008-07-22 15:44:39

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Maybe they're made from old sheets

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Lol - maybe they're for wearing as pyjamas

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wellington Beds, Phoenix sponsors ?

Whoops, maybe it is the clubs new range. Sorry Tony.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

reason i question - welllington beds is a sponser of phoenix are they not

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

bobboltontawa2 wrote:

can someone name who actually makes these shirts because the address on there website directs you to 20 paromuoana street porirua - which is wellington beds :0

If their trademe details are correct, they are called 'Jaswinder'.

IBTL2.

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

but dont take my word for it - cause by my record they are just in the same building of wellington beds - could be in a shady office ontop or outback - but from what i can see its defiently part of the same building

but then i can't imagine wellington beds or the phoenix calling yellow fever ultras - far from it ha.

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