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Getting Worried

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Getting Worried
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Im getting incrasingly worried about the upcoming season

We line up something like this:

--------Paston---------
Christie-O'Dor-Dodd-Lochhead
Ferrante-Brown-Aloisi-Daniel
-----Covs------Brownlie

Sorry but that worries me. Christie at RB is nothing short of a disaster. O'Dor is great, but I dont trust him to start, especially not next to Christie.

Covs is old, can he last 90 mins every week?

Brownlie aint very good, at all.

Someone assure me Ricki has quality lined up for these 4 positions?!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nembo,
 
I can't garuntee anything.  
 
Riki has been saying the usual politically neutral stuff about the signings to date, and there haven't been any noises frmo the club  to suggest any great signings aronud the corner. I suspect that Campos and Daniel were supposed to be the big draw cards. . . . Although they do seem like very good players, I agree we need to fin at least two more really solid, class players to fill the roster out nicely.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Lochead's performance against Wales did not inspire me with confidence.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nemo personally I think Lia would fit better at right back than Plodder.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

-------------------PASTON---------------------

PLODDER-----O'DOR---DODD------LOCHEAD

-------JOHNSON------ALOISI---------DANIEL
 
-----------------CAMPOS-----------------------
 
-------------COVS-------SMELTZ---------------
 
 
Thats how I see it. And with four signings left including two imports, I'm not panicking just yet.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think the squad is stronger than last seasons Knights squad and they managed some really good results at the end of the season. As long as the players are motivated and try and play positively I don't see why they can't get some good results. Hopefully the next few signings have some pace, a wide right player or attacking fullback maybe??
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Knights v Phoenix:

Paston v Paston - Draw
Bazeley v Plodder - WHich ones worse? Draw
Bunce v Dodd - Dodd
Tambo v O'Dor - Tambo
Gordon or Lochhead - Lochhead
Buari or Ferrante - Ferrante
Aloisi v Salley - Salley
Johnson v Brown - Brown
Gao v Daniel - Draw
Covs v Marcina - Marcina
Emblen v Brownlie - Emblen

About 4 vs. 4. Knights and Phoenix are pretty similar in terms of quality.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Do you mean Johnson v Johnson! I doubt Bunce is not as good as Dodd and sorry I'd have Dean Gordon instead of Lochead on the Wales performance too, which makes it a Knights win.

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
guys the squad aint full ytet

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

                                                          Paston

           Vacant                      Dodd               Vacant               Lochhead

             Brown                                   Aloisi                              Daniel
 
                                                       Campos
 
                                 Coveny                                 Vacant
 
As far as i see it. Where i have the words "vacant" this means i dont think there are any signings capable sop far of filling these spots. I think people are underestimating the standard of the opposition. And if our next 2 signings are smeltz and brockie. i fear we will be seeing the knights in phoenix clothing.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Xcellent wrote:
                                                   
 And if our next 2 signings are smeltz and brockie. i fear we will be seeing the knights in phoenix clothing.
Doubt that will happen as Terry is not one to jack it in,he likes winning as we all do and I think the backing he will provide will prove to better than  any of the others were able to scrap together.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I agree with xcellent. If we dont fill those 3 poisiton with quality, we're f**ked.

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yep success follows him wherever he goes...just like Mike Peterson (Minor Premiership with South Melbourne) he lasted 5 games with the Kingz, John Adshead (1982 World Cup hero and successful coach in Oman) last place with the Knights) and good old Paul Nevin (Leeds assistant coach) sacked half way thru last season). I agree that Seripisos is the man. He saved NZ pro football! But we need the players, because seriperos CANT save us when we simply dont have a good enough team to compete. Thats why these next 4 signings need to be awesome!!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You missed my point, that is if what  has been put in place at present dosnt work.I doubt very much if he will just let it stumble along till it falls over.

sh*t we havnt even played a game and some of you already sound like doom merchants.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
seriously, sign mark byrnes for defence. Totally underrated.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Theres a think called realistic, thats what I am. Christie as a RB option doesnt inspire anyone

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Be positive guys, sure Lochead had an off day against Wales but he was a first team player for a while in the MLS. Alen Marcina can only make the second tier competition and he performed well for the Knights last year and im sure most of us wouldnt reject him playing here again. I remember Ryan Nelsen once get asked if NZ had any other good upcoming players to watch, the name he mentioned was Tony Lochead. I cant remember where I saw it, I will try find it again and post the link. 
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Also there is talk about Shane Smeltz signing, I haven't really seen him play that much so wont comment on whether he should be or not. But I just wanted to make the point of not writing him off due to his performances in England. Leo Bertos wasn't doing too well in his 2 or 3 seasons over there either, he played for about 5 clubs in 2 years and didnt play much. Bertos has proved himself in the A league. Is it true that Smeltz trialled for an English Championship club last year??
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nembo wrote:
Im getting incrasingly worried about the upcoming season

We line up something like this:

--------Paston---------
Christie-O'Dor-Dodd-Lochhead
Ferrante-Brown-Aloisi-Daniel
-----Covs------Brownlie

Sorry but that worries me. Christie at RB is nothing short of a disaster. O'Dor is great, but I dont trust him to start, especially not next to Christie.

Covs is old, can he last 90 mins every week?

Brownlie aint very good, at all.

Someone assure me Ricki has quality lined up for these 4 positions?!
 
 
add campos in there please.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nembo wrote:

Knights v Phoenix:

Paston v Paston - Draw
Bazeley v Plodder - WHich ones worse? Draw
Bunce v Dodd - Dodd
Tambo v O'Dor - Tambo
Gordon or Lochhead - Lochhead
Buari or Ferrante - Ferrante
Aloisi v Salley - Salley
Johnson v Brown - Brown
Gao v Daniel - Draw
Covs v Marcina - Marcina
Emblen v Brownlie - Emblen

 

WHat the f**k are you on about. Marcina scored like twice and was pretty sh*t and emblem was alright btu didnt do much, covs and brownlie are bloody 3 times better than them. AND ALOISI IS BETTER THAN SALLEY,NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.



About 4 vs. 4. Knights and Phoenix are pretty similar in terms of quality.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
You, my friend, need your head checking.

Marcina was one of the bests forwards in this league when he was here, anyone that knows an ounce of football can acknowledge that. He is awesome.

Brownlie was crap V1, standards has increased, and he couldnt hold a position at Swindon Town. Brownlie is nowhere near Marcina

Covs and Embo will be pretty similar in terms of quality.

Theres a reason why Salley is at Adelaide and Aloisi is at Phoenix, because Salley is better.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
These next signings for Herbert are absolutely crucial. We really need two quality defenders and two quality attackers (preferably Alen Marcina as one of those attackers). Don't know if Damian Mori can still hack it at this level, but last year he was 36 (I think) and he played well. If Mori can hack it, however, then I would be happy to see our next two forwards be him and Marcina.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Marcina would require a fee
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I dont think we should worry this early nembo, let us get into things and see how we fair there.
 
You can teach a old dog new tricks.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nembo wrote:

Knights v Phoenix:

Paston v Paston - Draw
Bazeley v Plodder - WHich ones worse? Draw
Bunce v Dodd - Dodd
Tambo v O'Dor - Tambo
Gordon or Lochhead - Lochhead
Buari or Ferrante - Ferrante
Aloisi v Salley - Salley
Johnson v Brown - Brown
Gao v Daniel - Draw
Covs v Marcina - Marcina
Emblen v Brownlie - Emblen

About 4 vs. 4. Knights and Phoenix are pretty similar in terms of quality.
 
 
Is that the same Knights team that lost only one of its last seven games?
Hammer Head2007-06-02 18:33:08
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
how can u guys be judging players you havnt seen like daniel...... you guys are right prats if your basing players on there looks or that they can do 5 headers in a row
 
Just wait til wat riki signs for the rest of the spots and i wouldnt be worried yet.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nembo wrote:
Brownlie was crap V1
Totally disagree, I was in Brisbane for V1 and Brownlie did a great job there, they were sad to see him go. I admit that he doesn't look the 'typical starry player' but geez he can cause some trouble and score goals from nothing. I'm very happy with his signing.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
CelticFC wrote:
how can u guys be judging players you havnt seen like daniel...... you guys are right prats if your basing players on there looks or that they can do 5 headers in a row
 
Just wait til wat riki signs for the rest of the spots and i wouldnt be worried yet.

I based it on the 3 youtube videos I saw of him, quite lengthy aswell.

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nembo wrote:
CelticFC wrote:
how can u guys be judging players you havnt seen like daniel...... you guys are right prats if your basing players on there looks or that they can do 5 headers in a row
 
Just wait til wat riki signs for the rest of the spots and i wouldnt be worried yet.

I based it on the 3 youtube videos I saw of him, quite lengthy aswell.

 
so 20 minutes of what could be him (yes ive seenthe vids) and your basing him.. Hm mayb base the players afteer pre season

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh dear i am getting more worried now. Smelta seems a formality. I wonder if theres any other conference league rejects floating about?  He scored 2 goals over the entire season for halifax. Y cant ppl see hes average
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
No, 2 minutes of what IS HIM.

Sorry CelticFc either your extremely immature, or just brain-dead, but if he's as good or remotely as good as Gao he'll be awesome in this league. Its a prediction,  you think we will get in the top 4 so that kinda cancels out anything decent you have to say
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nembo wrote:
No, 2 minutes of what IS HIM.

Sorry CelticFc either your extremely immature, or just brain-dead, but if he's as good or remotely as good as Gao he'll be awesome in this league. Its a prediction,  you think we will get in the top 4 so that kinda cancels out anything decent you have to say
 
 
A prediction based on 20mins of seeing one of our imports.. Predict after preseason and see how the team actually is. Oh and there is quite a few people who reckons we can get into the top 4

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Your complaining abpout me putting a prediction on 1 player, yet you predict on the whole squad. Hypocritical at its finest

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nembo wrote:

Your complaining abpout me putting a prediction on 1 player, yet you predict on the whole squad. Hypocritical at its finest

no buddy..  your predicting from seeing 20mins of a player. IM SAYING PREDICT AFTER PRESEASON .. GEEZUS

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Get a room boys, lets just wait and see what happens, the two remaining imports are the key as arguebly they will be two startes along with daniel and campos.
 
 
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I Agree, I think for the 17 players we got now, only 7 of them are on higher money: Dodd, Aloisi, Lockhead, Brown, Coveny & the two brazillians.  The rest are all cheap to get especially the likes of Christie, Costa, Old etc.  So given that we have the full $2million salary availalbe I think Herbert will spend a big chunk of it on the other 2 imports. 

And remember, you can't compare a team by comparing individual players one by one.  If you put Kaka in the Knights last season and compare them with Melbourne you will find 1 vs 10 but they will be more likely to win the game.  And...the Knights in the last 7 games last season were the 3rd strongest team in the League, if we can score 4vs4 now and given we got 2 more quality imports to come, WE ARE LOOKING GOOD!
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
CelticFC wrote:
Nembo wrote:

Your complaining abpout me putting a prediction on 1 player, yet you predict on the whole squad. Hypocritical at its finest

no buddy..  your predicting from seeing 20mins of a player. IM SAYING PREDICT AFTER PRESEASON .. GEEZUS
 
Watching training at Ole this arvo Daniel certainly looks to have the goods (from my limited knowledge).  Good vision, nice touch, great movement and knows how to find the back of the net regularly in simple training 6-a-side games.  Not bad for a Brazilians first kick around on a chilly Porirua arvo.....
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Coxey wrote:
CelticFC wrote:
Nembo wrote:

Your complaining abpout me putting a prediction on 1 player, yet you predict on the whole squad. Hypocritical at its finest

no buddy..  your predicting from seeing 20mins of a player. IM SAYING PREDICT AFTER PRESEASON .. GEEZUS
 
Watching training at Ole this arvo Daniel certainly looks to have the goods (from my limited knowledge).  Good vision, nice touch, great movement and knows how to find the back of the net regularly in simple training 6-a-side games.  Not bad for a Brazilians first kick around on a chilly Porirua arvo.....
 
better than gao? or are you stil going to carry on your 20mins of youtube video predictions

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's OK to rate our players at the moment but to predict how we will go without having played any games as a team or having finalised the squad is a bit pointless. Nonetheless I feel quite confident that it is starting to come together, still injuries etc. may play a part so will have to wait and see. I think the whole season hinges on getting a couple of out and out star quality players in there. I think Ricki has played his cards well so far and am looking forward to the final few announcements. Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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