How can Greenacre be best utilised thread

How can Greenacre be best utilised thread

Discuss. Stevo2009-10-18 00:53:56

Shove him to the bench it'll scare the sh*t out of him and make him work for his position.

Service. Give him the ball to his feet on occasion and perhaps we will get some sort of clue as to what he can offer. for now the odd half chance at a glancing header is not working Rumney72R2009-10-18 00:55:22

He 'works' the hardest out of anyone. Just isn't falling for him so far - some of it his fault, some not. Think he's used to playing with a genuine target man.

Sign players than can actually give him some decent chances.

play him up front with Chen with Ifill sitting behind.

No thanks.

Greenacre is one of the hardest working players on the park, the way he closes down defenders in possession in their own defensive third is an example to the rest of the team. 

ffs, you disagree with EVERYTHING I SAY !!

All I can say is that he scored a goal every 3 games for Tranmere in League One (similar level to the A-League imo) and there is no reason he can't do it in the A-League but I don't think Ifill complements him at all.



To be fair, everyone disagrees with what you say.
valeo2009-10-18 01:06:57

Because everything you say is retarded.

You should ask him if this is the 5 pound arguement or the course of ten for 15 pounds!

Now theres somethink i agree on but i guess its more about whooo.

coming from you.......

Stops now or I get Banny.

Whoooo you have been long enough to gauge what is acceptable and you still seem to struggle to fit in.  Please have a think.

The rest of you, stop baiting him.

Last Word.

Scene: before next week's game.

Ifill: Hey Chris, love what you've done with your hair. nice highlights.

Greenacre: Thanks Paul - think I'll go a score a couple of goals today. have one yourself me old China!

Junior822009-10-18 01:09:41

This.

agreed, he's a small guy so why give him the 50yard long ball ?

Ok, sorry news. I honestly don't know what Greenacre needs. I mean the ball he gets is crap but its similar to what Smeltz got last year, really shows how big the gap Smeltz left is and this is coming from someone who doesn't like Smeltz.

so you don't know what he needs but i tell you the answer and you say "no thanks" ??

and i can't believe you don't like Smeltz. (he's like the best striker NZ has produced)

lol. There was this bloke called Wynton Rufer, heard of him?

Not to mention the fact that Smeltz spent many of his formative years on the Gold Coast.

He could have scored last nite but as luck would have it it went over/past him to Brown..so positioning was good.  There were a couple of other cutbacks or crosses that went where he wasnt. 

I think he should be one of two strikers. in a formation like this

Id like to see one of our young players get a start, Baa baa rooos off or Row jack!

There was a moment in the second half of last nights game that sealed my opinion of Greenacre. Ifill made a brilliant run to the bye line, cut a perfect chest high cross across the front of goal. Greenacre never moved, he stood 6 yards out and watched it pass. The commentators made the comment that any good number 9 would have buried a chance like that.

I'm guessing you don't pop in here after matches very often do you ?

I disagree. Last year our plan was pass to Smeltz and hope. This year it is when you are close to the box shoot it, who cares where everyone else is.

That is the approach we are taking. We give Greenacre nothing on the ground near the box, instead we go for shots outside the box when they could take the far better option of passing it. The number of times this season I have seen Bertos or Ifill go for a spectacular goal and fail horribly is shocking. What is worse is Greenacre is normally the better option.

TBH I think he's a class above and sometimes when he makes runs where he would usually get the ball, he's not receiving it. I guarantee you, if you watched every single Nix game this year, you could count on two hands the actual number of balls that has gone to his feet. We need to get the ball into his feet near the 18 yard area, as I think personally he is a bit of a box snake and will squeeze goals out of tight situations. At the moment he is being forced to go hunting out wide and too deep for the ball.

Also I think we execute way too much stuff down the wings, sure we have fantastic wingers in leo and ifill, but we need to change things up a bit every now and then and try move the ball through centrally.

Bingo, I agree with this completely. Case in point, in last night's game Bertos made a nice run, beat his man and was on the edge of the box, Greenacre was screaming for it on the back post, Bertos instead took a shot (which is not his strength at all) and shanked it wide. Greenacre in the right spot, just not getting the service. I've noticed Ifill and Bertos doing that quite a lot, they are brilliant at taking the man on and getting in a great position but that final rushed shot/attempt at a wonder goal is just not the right option when you've got someone like Greenacre lurking in the box waiting for a chrisp pass to bury in the back of the net.

As for the other facets of his game, he runs his a$$ off and puts pressure on their defenders which is great, and he holds up the ball well too, a couple of occasions last night he won useful free kicks by being on the end of passes from the midfield in the attacking third.

I rate him highly and the number 9 jersey is his through and through. It's the service to him from our midfield particularly Ifill and Bertos (and to a certain degree Brown) that needs a rethink.

/rantScoobyD2009-10-18 11:23:51

when you have Ifill on the field, he drifts quite wide and is often the man getting the ball into Greenacre, in these cases, we need to have another player in there because we cant expect Greenacre to cover all areas of the box.  When it did happen, we scored

Colvinator2009-10-18 11:31:10

Ok, if you are going to judge a striker by how many goals he does or doesnt score then surely you have to judge defenders/goalkeepers for the amount of goals they let in?

This is right.  Greenacre is i'm sure frustrated with himself, but he must be frustrated with others aswell.  THe number of times Bertos or Ifill will beat one man commit the second defender, and Greenacre makes a great unmarked run into the box only for a pisspoor shot to be made instead has been ridiculous.

Edited out the overzealous quoting.
aitkenmike2009-10-18 11:49:38

Buy a targetman and play him along side G-acre. Problem solved.

Greenacre my lord, Greenacre
Greenacre my lord, Greenacre
Greenacre my lord, Greenacre
Oh lord, Greenacre...!!

Give him the ball to his feet inside the box and he will bury it...the tactic of firing him 30-40yard hoofs in the air are not working and certainly not playing to his strengths.  But he is holding the ball up well in difficult circumstances...

He is the hardest working forward in the league for his off the ball runs and his pressure on opposition defenses and goalkeepers when they are trying to play the ball out of their half.

A targetman would help no end, or an AM that understands his runs and positional play, and feeds the ball to him in the box.  Agree with Bertos and Ifill needing to stop firing the long range shots, they should look up and see where Greenie is....cos he's ALWAYS there, and get another player in the box to assist/support/draw defenders...al la Tim Brown who scored cos the defenders were marking Greenie!

Keep the faith.....he's all class!!

Staying out of this debate, but had to comment on this - Greenacre doesn't hold the ball up well at all.