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How will we line up?

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How will we line up?
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

A bit early yet I know, but I'm interested in your best guesses as to what formation Herbert will adopt, and how the players will be slotted into it.

Given that we usually (?) play 4-3-3 with the AWs, can we assume more of the same for the Phoenix, or will he play a different formation?
 
Given that I've been out of Australiasia for years, I really have no idea of how different teams line up, and what Herbert did with the Knights at the end of last year.
 
Looking at the signings today, are we looking at something like this:
 
                     Paston
 
??             ??              ??               ??
 
  Brown   Alosi/Johnson    Ferrante
 
       ??                 ??                 ??
 
It could be interesting to see how our ideas change as signings are announced.
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
it will be interesting...
 
four of the 5 signings are effectively centre midfielders, ferrante can play wide too though and aloisi started played a lot of his early footy as a very classy sweeper - not the defensive type either, was a deep play maker. 
 
he's probably a little slow for sweeper now, so there could be a case for 433:
 
paston - x, x, x, x - brown, aloisi, johnson - ferrante, x, x
 
at least we have a few pointers now!
 
bring on the next batch!
 

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
If we have signed four midfeilders alrady we will probably play more than 3 of them I will say 2-4-4
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Dragon wrote:

A bit early yet I know, but I'm interested in your best guesses as to what formation Herbert will adopt, and how the players will be slotted into it.

Given that we usually (?) play 4-3-3 with the AWs, can we assume more of the same for the Phoenix, or will he play a different formation?
 
Given that I've been out of Australiasia for years, I really have no idea of how different teams line up, and what Herbert did with the Knights at the end of last year.
 
Looking at the signings today, are we looking at something like this:
 
                     Paston
 
??             ??              ??               ??
 
  Brown   Alosi/Johnson    Ferrante
 
       ??                 ??                 ??
 
It could be interesting to see how our ideas change as signings are announced.
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
hi, lets hope they get Neil Emblen and the Canadian striker (name escapes me- mental block!) as they were on fire late last season
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
How do you fit 4 central midfielders into a 4-4-2?  Or do you see Brown and Ferrante playing out wide?
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I reckon we'll go 4-5-1 with 2 holding mids (from Johnson/Brown/Aloisi), two wider players who can drop back in defence and bomb forward when we're in possesion and then a creative player in the hole behind the striker. This formation will easily switch to 4-2-4 when on attack.

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
That would be the only negative is we have signed 4 central midfeilders that are similar in terms there is no pace amongst them.
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ferrante ain't no slouch.  i think you'll be surprised how good he is
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Brown will definitely play down the middle, presumably holding - but not out right i doubt

almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I am not saying Ferrante is slow I was meaning they are all central midfeild and there is no lightening pace there. I am really hoping we get some out and out speed merchants in the form of wingers and a striker as there would be nothing worse than us getting out hopes up to yet again be a team of mostly slower players across the board.
Its early days yet I ws just pointing out they are similar players due to their favoured position the play.
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The lightning pace will come from imports is my theory.  This Brazilian Midfielder and maybe a winger and a striker would be where Ricki is looking I imagine.

Oh, and Costa.
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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
3-5-2 is the only way to play. Boss the middle of the park and you are way.
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Only if you have the right defenders... as Ricki last tried this with Old, Hay and Bunce... I say no...

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almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i think it's a good option.
 
remember lads, it's just 5 players.  the squad will be 23, so it's perfectly possible that only 2 of the 4 midfielders signed today will line up.
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Ther is a great trend amonst world football at the moment to play 4 at the back with the two fullbacks getting up and down the flanks and effectively working as "wing-backs" playing the same role they would with a back 5. 2 central midfielders sit in front of this defence shielding the defence and starting the attack. 1 play maker or (number 10) usually the star attraction sit in front of the 2 central mid's. u then have 2 wide strikers (usually quick) who play the striker's role in attack but do the hard work in defence and try and gain posession high up the pitch and put the pressure on. That leaves 1 person left: the target man up front. Usually porwerful striker with back to goal, creating space for wide strikers.
call the formation 4-3-3, a 4-2-4, a 4-5-1, ur seeing it used by teams like Man U, Barca,
Netherlands, Socceroos (under Hiddink), Melbourne Vic, Newcastle Jets. Works well with the way the game is being played today.
Im not nessacerily saying the Pheonix should adopt this formation, There are many other effective formations, but it is something to consider.
 
Ur thoughts?
almost 19 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Jez19 wrote:
Ther is a great trend amonst world football at the moment to play 4 at the back with the two fullbacks getting up and down the flanks and effectively working as "wing-backs" playing the same role they would with a back 5. 2 central midfielders sit in front of this defence shielding the defence and starting the attack. 1 play maker or (number 10) usually the star attraction sit in front of the 2 central mid's. u then have 2 wide strikers (usually quick) who play the striker's role in attack but do the hard work in defence and try and gain posession high up the pitch and put the pressure on. That leaves 1 person left: the target man up front. Usually porwerful striker with back to goal, creating space for wide strikers.
call the formation 4-3-3, a 4-2-4, a 4-5-1, ur seeing it used by teams like Man U, Barca,
Netherlands, Socceroos (under Hiddink), Melbourne Vic, Newcastle Jets. Works well with the way the game is being played today.
Im not nessacerily saying the Pheonix should adopt this formation, There are many other effective formations, but it is something to consider.
 
Ur thoughts?
 
With the right players it is a good formation - solid at the back , and hard to break down, and with the overlapping fullbacks there can be plenty of attacks from the flanks.  Sometimes I think the lone man up front gets isolated though.  I guess if you are on top, the wingers and the attacking midfielder can cause lots of problems.  If the other team is on top you've got a striker stuck up front with no support.
 
If we've got pace, the ability to beat the man and crossing ability on the flanks, the right target man and attacking midfielder, then why not.  It looks like we've already got the two CM in place.