(I think) Fever Zone is NOT FOR FAMILIES!!

(I think) Fever Zone is NOT FOR FAMILIES!!

I hope people are thinking that the Fever Zone is going to be a family area like some posts have suggested! I hope its going to be a proper footy supporters area with loud chanting and swearing all over the place...like being back in the Terraces!

Hard News2007-07-04 19:58:50

You will see that we alluded to that in our mail out yesterday shabba, at the same time we're not trying to alienate anyone! james dean2007-07-04 17:52:50

SiNZ2007-07-04 17:59:59

My son is 7, he'll be smack in the middle of the Fever section.  He's done time in the Bloc and it's my choice (and his) where he enjoys the game from.

As long as it's made clear what the situation is, anyone is welcome in the Fever zone as long as they accept and understand the risks.

Also, note:  At some stage there will be a media beat up about the language used.  I'll put money on it.
Hard News2007-07-04 18:03:36

we have the media in our pockets

Obviously, it won't be 'our' media...

Pretty sure thats the only reason we won't get 37 million dollars to spend on the Phoenix

well this means that you cant complain about me/other YF members swearing in various languages in front of your children!!! (and god forbid we might even hear the C word)

i dont mind the odd child/girlfriend here and there but they must realise that this will be going on......and it will!!!! this is footy not rugby

well im glad the NZ team lost but i was extremely pissed off to find out that a further 10 mill will go to that bullshyte rich mans "sport" 10 mil would make newtown stadium perfect for the phoenix.....im sure this team will give more to NZ than that boat didWPFC_OR_DEATH2007-07-04 18:48:52

SiNZ2007-07-04 19:12:35

seagull2007-07-04 19:24:25

Just realised that Shabba (according to his profile) is just a teenager himself.... I hope he realises that the Fever Zone is NOT FOR FAMILIES

You have to laugh at teenagers lecturing people on Terrace Kulcha... Hard News2007-07-04 19:55:37

A teenage Manchester United fan? No wonder he yearns for the terraces so much - probably never seen one in person

mate i dear you to find a woman that looks like that in NZ .....

as for the swearing many people complained to the modds about "my" use of the word c**t and f**k in the forum so i assumed if i used it at games people would bitch (ofcourse we will swear, no one person watches a whole footy game and doesnt swear at least 10 times)....plus the whole pro rugby anti footy media attention we will get (the fans in melbourne got it bad)

also after reading numerous books on football hooligans the ADULT male environment/atmosphere makes a huge difference and has a huge influence on behavior of fans, this is usually the blame/cause of troubles. A pit full of males between the ages of 13-35 who are pissed off and pissed surely asks for trouble

and no my comment did not imply women are child like (thats a stupid analysis) but that women and children( kids under 12), do not fall under the adult "male bonding" catergory.... personally i said i dont mind a few women and children but honestly who wants their partners to see them go apesh*t over a "game" - (we all know that footy is not simply a game....thats a whole other thread)

we want to achieve a european atmosphere, the less YF zone is filled with families the closer we are to that goal



ps stop giving the little guys sh*t about yearning for the terraces, i like their motivation/passion they will be good fans to have in YF

Swearing in the forums is only a problem, in my experience, because it causes corporate firewalls to block access to the page. Of course, I shouldn't be looking at the forum from work, but hey!

I'm not sure I understood the relevance of the reference to hooligan demographics?

I used the "stupid" analysis because you lumped the two categories together in reference to the zone. I know women who get offended when people say "no swearing, there's women and children present" like they're the same thing. Women can hold their own as well as men. Anyway, I don't mind my partner seeing me at my worst... she knows what she married. Football is not just male bonding - not since the 1950s anyway - and I don't believe it should be limited to that. The old style "mens clubs" are an anachronism.

i cant make it through a game of fifa without swearing.. cant wait for a good yell/swear/drink and footy as long as theres no full on riot sh*t.i reckon go hard up to a certain point but riots will f*ck everything up!

Or Football Manager. Now that's when my wife does say to me, "it's just a game".

ok your experiences must be different to mine, in greece i hardly ever see women at games "sitting " with fans clubs sure there are a few....and they are tough and as into it as the guys...let me tell you that after a goal its worse than a mosh pit (not some pussy bigdayout mosh pit either...underground punk stuff)

thats great for them and football but theres a point where women will be sensible and where men wouldnt be.....ie if someone cracked a flare, ripped a seat out and threw it, threw a bottle...etc not that any one will do this everygame but who knows.

ps play proevo fifa is crap

yes i have been to PAO matches....have you been to a european game???

ps no comment on your wife because im trying not to piss any more people off before the season starts.

Throwing a bottle or seat is out of order. Period. Gender has nothing to do with that. Not since the 80s would anyone consider that acceptable in English football. If in Greece it is only the women who think that behaviour is "not sensible" then no wonder your experiences are different. We were banned from Europe in the 80s and had to put our house in order, so perhaps this is just an England/Greece difference.

If anyone pulls any of that sh*t at a Phoenix game, I'll be grabbing them by the throat and handing them straight to security.

It will cost the game and the club everything they have built so far.  If kids and wives stop people thinking of it then bring on more wives and kids.  This is exactly the sort of sh*t that the game doesn;t need anywhere.

Fecking eejits.

I'll go further, if all you want to see is a replay of Green Street Hooligans or the sort of irrational sh*t that can be found in some parts of the world you can f**k off to those parts of the world and live out all your hooligan fantasies there.

Thanks.
Kingzfan2007-07-04 21:54:08

Yep give them to security after some of us have finished with them first,some of theses idiots dont seem to realise what it will cost us if they try that sort of sh*t.This is NZ so if you want to do that crap go elsewhere not our club.

england is way different and yes english vs greek football fans is a no brainer now, greek fan clubs are probably the worse in europe with exception of the netherlands

ok my examples were a little extreme and i doubt anyone here has the balls to throw a chair, but many of you also stated you would handle any persons doing that which is violence in its self. but if this did happen it would erupt.

on topic though i know no one would get away with it here as the a-league seems pretty keen to kill it off before it starts....which is good.

what i was trying to say is that we want YF to be very hostile and agressive to give our team an advantage....look at clubs with smaller stadiums and how big clubs struglle to get away with a draw at best (examples olympiakos vs liverpool 2005 1-0 , PAO barcelona 0-0 2006, aek v ac milan 2007 1-0) i think the more males in the area the more agressive it would be, volume wise as well, thats just biology (unless any ones partner is a singer then my case is flawed)

on the GSE remark i didnt see any violence in the stadiums in that narrative, that organised violence like in the film football factory is a whole different equation.

WPFC_OR_DEATH2007-07-04 23:39:03

PLease - If you dont want swearing then go sit in the normal seating - which is for families.

Can we dial back the language a little. When you say hostile and aggressive that wording has negative connotations and is the sort of language used to describe hooligans (which we don't want). As a fan I would rather be described as passionate than hostile.

Since you used Olympiakos v Liverpool as an example I would point to European nights at Anfield where the fans are generally regarded as the 12th man but do it by supporting their team as opposed to attacking the opposition if you can see the difference.

Don't get me wrong tho'. I'm not against throwing a few chants at the opposition or their fans
"You only sing when you're winning..."

no i meant it that way, passionate does describe liverpool when they sing (which i like and want for phoenix) but no team is afraid to play there....leoforos (PAO) on the other hand is passionate but teams espescially outside greece would be afraid to play there.

i was informed of a team in the championship called colchester united who have stadium that seats 6000max, the atmosphere there is passionate but also hostile as the 6000 fans there are agressive with their chants

i spose we are on the same track just wording it differentlyWPFC_OR_DEATH2007-07-05 00:34:54

Nembo - has anyone claimed that they don't want the passionate behaviour you describe? The only thing that has riled people up here and in other threads is the mention of missile throwing or racist chanting.

Its the title of this thread. YF is not for families wanting to sit down and get a nice little picnic out. End of.

I say anything that could get the club banned or fined is out. This means throwing missles, racsit chanting and violence. phil_style2007-07-05 09:28:44

SiNZ2007-07-05 09:49:47

I hope Fever Zone is as good as or better than 'The Shed' for Perths home games. Its one hell of an electric, abusive, alcohol-fuelled, loud, raucous atmosphere. A little bit scary but brilliant at the same time. Hammer Head2007-07-05 11:21:04

No, most likely a 10 year old kid talking himself up on the internet

Yay wannabe hools!!

Hard News will recall some of the Aussie chants at the Bloc - some which sailed pretty close to the wind, like the "save your water for the fire" just after the bushfires.

I wonder what he means by 'or death'?

...a dingo ate your baby, a dingo ate your baby.

A few others:
- You can stick your gold medals up your arse (post Sydney 2000)
- In the desert the quiet desert the Afghans sleep tonight (a Woomera, a Woomera, a Woomera)
- You killed Falconio...
- Schappelle, Schappelle, Schappelle, Schappelle, 20 drug free years in a Bali jail.

Plus the Schappelle version of 'Blame it on the Boogie (board)'
Hard News2007-07-05 14:20:09

Awesome stuff. I doff my cap, sir.