It is very easy to say that a manager should be sacked after a few (okay, quite a few) poor performances. However, the obvious question must be: who would replace them? The replacement must be better than the status quo or there is no point.
Who are realistic options to replace Ricki?
Who are realistic options to replace Ricki?
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some people on the facebook page are saying Keith Braithwaite.
pfft.
pfft.
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John Kosmina and Frank Farina co-coaches!
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I hear that Ian Ferguson might be out of a job at Perth end of the season :P
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I reckon there'd be quite a few Oz coaches at the window as we speak. I'll never forget McKinna last year, the way he clapped and looked up at the YF zone as he left the pitch. You could see the admiration in the man's eye. And he's not the only one. I hope Ricky stays and sorts out his stuff, I really don't know who could replace him at the moment.
I'd see Ferguson as a step back personally.
How on earth would Braithwaite get a job at the Nix?
I hope it ain't Stu.
Maybe Luciano to step up? or another seasoned A-League coach out of a job?
Wouldn't say no to Ernie.
Anyhow, this is all speculation. Sacking Ricky now would be madness. Look at how much we improved in the 2nd part of last season. You change everything now, you've wasted 6 months of hard work.
I believe in long-term projects. Absolutely hate it when coaches are sacked after 6-7 rubbish games, no matter how crap they are.
I'd see Ferguson as a step back personally.
How on earth would Braithwaite get a job at the Nix?
I hope it ain't Stu.
Maybe Luciano to step up? or another seasoned A-League coach out of a job?
Wouldn't say no to Ernie.
Anyhow, this is all speculation. Sacking Ricky now would be madness. Look at how much we improved in the 2nd part of last season. You change everything now, you've wasted 6 months of hard work.
I believe in long-term projects. Absolutely hate it when coaches are sacked after 6-7 rubbish games, no matter how crap they are.
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Melanie MacLaughlin (a la "The Manageress").
Would boost crowd numbers too (maybe Linda Slade as Asst Coach).
Would boost crowd numbers too (maybe Linda Slade as Asst Coach).
"Phoenix till they lose"
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I think McKinna, or even Farina could be likely tbh. They both seemed to have a respect for the club.
Esp McKinna through his twitter feed, although im not sure if these guys would play the right sort of footy we wanted. Farin did put faith in youth at times, as well as obviously signing some decent seasoned pros.
Theres always an international coach, they seem to be taking a liking to the league, and tbh, I havnt really seen any of them really flop yet
Esp McKinna through his twitter feed, although im not sure if these guys would play the right sort of footy we wanted. Farin did put faith in youth at times, as well as obviously signing some decent seasoned pros.
Theres always an international coach, they seem to be taking a liking to the league, and tbh, I havnt really seen any of them really flop yet
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As much as I like Mckinna, CCM played just as bad football under him as the nix play under ricki.
Farina can go f**k off as far as I'm concerned.
Farina can go f**k off as far as I'm concerned.
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As much as I like Mckinna, CCM played just as bad football under him as the nix play under ricki.Farina can go f**k off as far as I'm concerned.
+1
I don't know how anyone can even suggest Farina, look at the type of players he wanted for the Roar - Tiatto, Moore, Miller... - and how they are doing without him, and them.
2B is also right about the dire football that CCM played under McKinna.
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Roy Hodgson will be needing somewhere to rebuild his reputation soon.
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Gary van Egmond?
Currently at the AIS - will want to get back into head coaching at some point
Ricki has done a terrific job but he wont be here forevervaleo2010-11-21 14:34:50
Currently at the AIS - will want to get back into head coaching at some point
Ricki has done a terrific job but he wont be here forevervaleo2010-11-21 14:34:50
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Roy Hodgson will be needing somewhere to rebuild his reputation soon.
Cheers for the spoiler......I hadn't seen the Liverpool game yet
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I heard that Wayne Bennett is coming to coach us.
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Roy Hodgson will be needing somewhere to rebuild his reputation soon.
Cheers for the spoiler......I hadn't seen the Liverpool game yet
Watch it anyway......
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I would like to see a kiwi coach if rick were to go
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I reckon there'd be quite a few Oz coaches at the window as we speak. I'll never forget McKinna last year, the way he clapped and looked up at the YF zone as he left the pitch. You could see the admiration in the man's eye. And he's not the only one. I hope Ricky stays and sorts out his stuff, I really don't know who could replace him at the moment.
I'd see Ferguson as a step back personally.
How on earth would Braithwaite get a job at the Nix?
I hope it ain't Stu.
Maybe Luciano to step up? or another seasoned A-League coach out of a job?
Wouldn't say no to Ernie.
Anyhow, this is all speculation. Sacking Ricky now would be madness. Look at how much we improved in the 2nd part of last season. You change everything now, you've wasted 6 months of hard work.
I believe in long-term projects. Absolutely hate it when coaches are sacked after 6-7 rubbish games, no matter how crap they are.
I'd see Ferguson as a step back personally.
How on earth would Braithwaite get a job at the Nix?
I hope it ain't Stu.
Maybe Luciano to step up? or another seasoned A-League coach out of a job?
Wouldn't say no to Ernie.
Anyhow, this is all speculation. Sacking Ricky now would be madness. Look at how much we improved in the 2nd part of last season. You change everything now, you've wasted 6 months of hard work.
I believe in long-term projects. Absolutely hate it when coaches are sacked after 6-7 rubbish games, no matter how crap they are.
6-7 games? Our away record has been appalling for years!
Ricki has had 1 good season in 4 now.
There's still time this season, but can you really see things changing dramatically? Last season we were unlucky a lot of the time at the start of the season but there was some promise. Then we beat Gold Coast 6-0 and it was pretty much a good season from that point. That point has come and gone this season and I just can't see where this improvement is going to come from?
And, haven't the last 6 months been about 90% wasted anyway? By not getting rid of him you risk having the next 4 months as a waste as well...possibly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Harsh. Remembering how long we had to recruit an entire side in season 1,it was a massive achievement to get where we were at the end of that season. The next season saw improvement,and improved quality in the squad. Last season started off slow and you were saying similar things at this stage of the season and we made the prelim final.
So yeah i think newzealandpower was accurate in what he said.Tegal2010-11-21 15:14:15
So yeah i think newzealandpower was accurate in what he said.Tegal2010-11-21 15:14:15
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Harsh. Remembering how long we had to recruit an entire side in season 1,it was a massive achievement to get where we were at the end of that season. The next season saw improvement,and improved quality in the squad. Last season started off slow and you were saying similar things at this stage of the season and we made the prelim final.
So yeah i think valeo was accurate in what he said.
So yeah i think valeo was accurate in what he said.
Melbourne Heart aren't doing too badly are they? Better than our established team anyway.
edit - and last season I was wrong, eventually. By this point last year we had improved. This year we appear to be getting worse rather than better. I'll be as happy as everyone else if we go on a great run again, but can you seriously see it happening?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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They didn't get their license at the very last minute.
This is the first time we have really played below expectation,so it is quite harsh to say ricki has led us to being rubbish in 3 out of 4 seasons now.
We were also in a similar position last season and look how that turned out. It would be ridiculous to let him go now without giving him a chance to repeat that.Tegal2010-11-21 15:21:28
This is the first time we have really played below expectation,so it is quite harsh to say ricki has led us to being rubbish in 3 out of 4 seasons now.
We were also in a similar position last season and look how that turned out. It would be ridiculous to let him go now without giving him a chance to repeat that.Tegal2010-11-21 15:21:28
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Fair enough. But it still wasn't a great season. Circumstances meant it was unlikely so you can let that lie. 2nd season was ok-ish for the most part, although without Smeltz's goals there wasn't much to us. Last season, good second half of the season. This season, just terrible really.
Therefore, I don't think saying Ricki's had 1 good season out of 4 is that wide of the mark?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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They didn't get their license at the very last minute.
This is the first time we have really played below expectation,so it is quite harsh to say ricki has led us to being rubbish in 3 out of 4 seasons now.
We were also in a similar position last season and look how that turned out. It would be ridiculous to let him go now without giving him a chance to repeat that.
This is the first time we have really played below expectation,so it is quite harsh to say ricki has led us to being rubbish in 3 out of 4 seasons now.
We were also in a similar position last season and look how that turned out. It would be ridiculous to let him go now without giving him a chance to repeat that.
To be honest I don't expect him to go now, I don't think he will.
However, if things are still the same at the end of the season, the position should be seriously looked at.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone
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Yeah but it's the way you're angling it.
He's had 1 season out of 4 where we've made the playoff,therefore get rid of him.
When surely a coaches performance should be based on the expectation on each of the seasons. I say he is actually up in that category if you're going by all 4 seasons.
Only this season have we been below expectation. So it's pretty doomsday to be saying he's had 1 good season out of 4.
But you are quite right in voicing concerns about this season,we are woeful. But we can only let him carry on and try do a repeat of last season
He's had 1 season out of 4 where we've made the playoff,therefore get rid of him.
When surely a coaches performance should be based on the expectation on each of the seasons. I say he is actually up in that category if you're going by all 4 seasons.
Only this season have we been below expectation. So it's pretty doomsday to be saying he's had 1 good season out of 4.
But you are quite right in voicing concerns about this season,we are woeful. But we can only let him carry on and try do a repeat of last season
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I don't know how anyone can even suggest Farina, look at the type of players he wanted for the Roar - Tiatto, Moore, Miller... - and how they are doing without him, and them.
hmm think this is a bit harsh. Farina wasn't that bad.
He signed up a few players like Van Dijk, Reinaldo etc who all are still kicking it. And tiatto, Miller, Moore etc weren't bad at all for the league. He had these seasoned pros to help nurture his young squad and I like that concept.
He also had confidence with his youth and played them. He had many solid young guns over his years like Oar, Kruse, Zullo, Sarota, Cernak etc, who have all gone on to become good players and I wouldn't mind that system.
I actually think Farina would be a step up from RH.
But would much rather a confident international coach willing to make changes for longterm reward.
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I would like to see a kiwi coach if rick were to go
Like who? I can't think of one person that could step up. Paul posa and Stu Jacobs are probably next in line, but they are hardly outstanding candidates
PWF - you really want a coach that drinks and drives and then threatens to sue once he gets the crop because of said incident..
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Say it again - Bobby Gould.
or Elliot Gould....lol
" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow
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How about Ray Wilkins he got shafted
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or Neil Emblem and Darren Bazely?
Like to see them achieve a wee bit more at Waitak first. In saying that, what had RH really done before getting the job?
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John Adshead?
ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH
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Coaching licences? A winning streak with the Knights? some impressive performances with the All Whites?
Still got my vote. Reckon he might need to get himself and the team back in shape. Will Elliot be around when Griffiths is is the question...
Ward and North backward steps IMO. sorry wrong thread probably.
Still got my vote. Reckon he might need to get himself and the team back in shape. Will Elliot be around when Griffiths is is the question...
Ward and North backward steps IMO. sorry wrong thread probably.
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Coaching licences? A winning streak with the Knights? some impressive performances with the All Whites?
hmmm maybe?
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It's such a stupid thing to be discussing, purely because it just isn't going to happen. We could lose every game for the rest of the season and he wouldn't be sacked, he is here till the end of the season. End of.
Steve-O, you've had it in for Ricki for a number of years now so you can't objectively comment to be honest.
Steve-O, you've had it in for Ricki for a number of years now so you can't objectively comment to be honest.
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He could just as well say you've loved him from the start so you can't objectively judge either.
Pretty lame argument to put forward.
Pretty lame argument to put forward.
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I think it would be a big mistake changing coaches right now. As much as I reckon Ricki could have done some things differently, as in reading games and making changes ( as did Harry R in the game against Arsenal this morning) some players have to put up their hand and say ' I can do better'
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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John Adshead?
Surley you are kidding.
If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid
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... some players have to put up their hand and say ' I can do better'
^this.
It's our season slogan that's jinxing us.
Passion (nope)
Pride (not really)
Power (nope)
Prestige (no - not yet)
"Phoenix till they lose"
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