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" If you only have a hammer you tend to see every problem as a nail" - maslow

I don't think we needed reminding Moss was a big loss, but Paston really isn't that bad.
A small town in Europe........looking to bounce straight back up....well that aint going to happen
Normo's coming home
All I can see getting better is possibly with NZF doing better financially we might be able to see some more friendlies against good opposition. But for NZ soccers sake i hope we follow our trans-tasman rivals and cross the ditch to the asian federation.
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Normo's coming home
I read recently that Aus have adopted a playing formation that all coaches have to adhere to for the junior leagues. Do we have anything like that here??
Truth is though it's a pretty simplistic idea, even in Australia there is a lot of disagreement on whether this is the right way to go, and even more on whether the adopted tactic is the right tactic. I mean how do you develop players with initiative if everything is mandated and in set patterns ?
You might pick up that I'm not convinced.
Not that I know of, possibly informally, but I'm not knowledable really as I don't live in NZ at the moment. Others will know I'm sure.
By the way I'm not convinced that's the way to go, you don't want a complete generation of kids growing up who only know how to play one way. Good players can play in any system, we need better players, the reality is that the system isn't really that important.
james dean2009-06-18 23:14:09Normo's coming home
They can cover quickly if someone breaks out and uses their initiative

t all starts with kids wanting to go out and kick a ball with their friends. Wynton Rufer said it to me and this is true of any sport - if a kid of any age is exceptional at something and has bragging rights over his/her peers they will stick to it.
You're onto it, there is something tactically niave or lacking when you send out a team to play a 4-4-2 formation when you do not have a right back.
The fact that Mulligan is a hopeless RB should not have been a surprise to Herbert. So why 4-4-2? But hold it what about 4-4-2 with Brockie or Christie in the RM role in front of Mulligan, at this point alarm bells are ringing, our whole right hand side that we're going to play is not good enough for the a-league let alone up against quality international sides.
Our players are not man for man good enough but even allowing for that they should have put up much better showings than we saw against Spain and S Africa. But a 4-4-2 with Mulligan, Christie and Brockie was asking for trouble.
Normo's coming home
I suppose if you want an excuse why the players were so flat against SA. 5 games in 14 days is a big ask.....maybe some of them ran out of gas. Remember half the team have only just started training for the A-league season.
At junior level coaching is purely voluntary and the effort and time is dependent upon work/family committments. My kids' club offers to cover coaching course costs which is a big investment by the club. Unfortunately I have not been able to spare the time to attend any of the suitable courses. Coming up to an age where coaching skills become important to develop all players (good or so-so) and keep their interest in the game going my contribution will be limited or at the end of its time.
It would be nice if Capital Football either a) ran more courses at a range of times or b) canvassed junior coaches at the start of each season as to suitable dates/times for courses.
Just a thought and depends on the resources and finances available to CF.
"Phoenix till they lose"
Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion.
Genuine opinion: FTFFA
This is the information that Aus is doing:
AUSTRALIA'S FOOTBALL REVOLUTION
* Skills program (1500 drills) to be used as foundation training at age six.
* Elite development pathway to start with eight-year-olds.
* Stricter implementation of youth coaching licences at junior levels; compulsory qualifications for all senior levels.
* 4-3-3 mandated as preferred formation for all teams, once 11-a-side football starts at age 13.
[quote=smh.com.au]For the 450,000 players of all ages about to step onto pitches across the country this weekend, the evolution of the way football in Australia is played is about to become a revolution.
Dutchman Han Berger, the national team's new technical director, dreams of a new generation of players reared with skill, rather than strength, and the Socceroos being a top-20 team and challenging to win the World Cup in 2018.
The first seeds were sown last year with the introduction of small-sided games for players up to the age of 12. Now, the winds of change are about to blow much harder as small-sided games will be refined even further. Coaching licences will become mandatory at many junior levels. Training sessions for younger age groups will become exclusively based on ball work, not conditioning.
The elite development pathway will start at the age of eight, and identified players will be have access to qualified skills coaches up to the age of 13.
All teams, even those at community level, will be encouraged to adopt a 4-3-3 system, which will, in turn, be the tactical platform for all national teams, including the Socceroos.
There is more than a whiff of the KNVB (the Dutch football association) in the new blueprint. Was it simply a reprint, Berger - a former KNVB technical director - was asked?
"No, not at all," he replied. "I don't think I have to explain myself, or defend myself, on this."
If it's not a Dutch curriculum - and the selection of a Norwegian community-level training program and incorporation of a futsal component into the small-sided programs does suggest a broader perspective - then it must follow that the coaches charged with implementing it won't necessarily have to be Dutch?
"No they won't," he said. "My aim is that these positions, as much as possible, will go to Australian coaches."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/football/berger-with-the-lot-dutchman-releases-our-football-master-plan/2009/05/01/1240982406760.html
I have posted in bigsoccer.com a reply to some of the Australian posters reluctance in adopting this as follows:
[quote=AllWhiteBeliever]I understand the hestiation of using 4-3-3. But this is about Youth development not senior elite. However the benefits of this apporach is that it forces the best of the players to specialise their skills more and be more attacking and eventually stronger player for it.
It's about development because having 4-3-3 can be easily turn to 4-4-2 or 3-4-3 or even the fancy 4-3-1-2 or defensive 4-3-2-1 simply by shift only one player in the formation. Sure it seems to out of touch to have one team with 4-3-3 formations but if you have several teams with 4-3-3 you should be able to find players to suit any of the above formations according to the coaches and players compability. It will stimulate players competitiveness. Sure the pressure is on the CM and the CF to perform with the Wide midfielders and wingers being more specialised and there is a bit of space on the midfield width rather than the compact midfield depth, but it is for the specialised development. They really do get more utilisation of space.
When they get to A-league, they will find it easiler to adapt in the different formations. You will find that having 4-3-3 changing to 3-4-3 or 4-4-2 later on in development will bring out the best of the better players so they will freely move between the three blocks of defence, midfield and attack.
If youth development is 4-4-2 you have players to set in their ways and not really getting to move between the blocks as well as they should. They will lazy in learning positional movements. Thereas 4-3-3 is easy to learn where the positions are but also flexible to be learning the movements because of the lateral movements and passing angles will open up. Having 4-4-2 in youth developmemt will strife the lateral movements and you will get the same long pass, small angles and plenty of interceptions and so a messly unskillful development.
Specialising the wingers and the centre forward provides good developmental challenges in attack and teach them good attacking combinations. You will find that a soild CF combining with either one of the two wingers will establish the combination foundations for the two forward up front in the 4-4-2 as well as developing the third forward as a supporting option. This will establish understanding of using the three man movement will break down most defences. You need your Riggs and Rolando types players and encourage them combinations and awareness. The 4-3-3 is the best foundation to work off. Again it helps having a third forward that knows how to combine with the other two forwards up front. It is generally easy to combine two forwards up front but the introduction of a third forward is very tricky to learn. The combinations of three forwards are usually difficult to pull because there is not enough forwards that understands how to play with three forwards upfront and so the third forward is rendered useless and inflexible. By having three forwards in a youth development, this will not be a problem later on and at the end of the day, the combinations of three forwards will potentially overwhelm four in defence by having the intitative of the ball attack. It will test and lift up the defence combination as well. We don't see enough of three forward attacks because there is a lack of development.
If you play three forwards upfront, those forwards can switch to a two forward up front. However, if you play with only two forwards upfront, don't expect them to know what to do if you switch to a three forward attack in the dying stage of the game if you are desparate for the win or the draw being on the backfoot.
4-3-3 will also developing the central forward as well because there will be times that there no support in the centre form the other wingers or midfielders so they are forced to adapt in the game situation. Eventually you will have a forward that is able to do many things and not the one thing. By having a second forward in a 4-4-2, there is too much dependence with a second forward and actually too much lateral movement making those forwards doing too much winger roles where they should learn to shoot/finish and have a better box forward and go forward finishing with lesser lateral space to worry about. They need to learn to met the crosses first and not make the crosses at that stage. Leave most of the crossing to the wingers.
It's about the long term development and if more people follow this, your football will improve greatly.
I got a fairly good feedback on their pm for that piece of writing.
I actually have more positivity in what they are doing, we should install the same. In fact, if we did adopt the same, we will be able to get this started before them because that is the advantage of being a smaller country.
Also, I am a bit bias because it was the 4-3-3 formation that I mainly worked with in my youth days, and it destroyed most 4-4-2 formation teams at the time until the 3-5-2 arrived, in which there was a change on tactics to a 4-3-1-2 or the 3-1-3-3 which did well.
NZF did much of this quite a number of years ago. Paul Smalley mandated 4-3-3 for all youth and Federation teams. Small sided games were pushed down through the Federations, and Small Whites launched a skills based training programme for youngsters.
Unfortunately...heavy resistance and a bunch of personality conflicts ended in Smalley leaving, and taking to court, NZF. His 4-3-3 mandate lapsed with his departure. Small sided games were resisted heavily in some regions by administrators and councils who would have to invest in re-deploying fields and goals. Small Whites has fallen in a heap through a lack of funding.
So, been there done that failed.
If Aussie succeed then they will fly even further ahead of us in the football world. Sad really.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
