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It's football, stupid

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's football, stupid
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Am I being too pedantic, or should bombard the media each time the "S" word is used.

The media, just can't get any consistency - one minute its Football, the next it's the "S" word.

prime example here
http://www.stuff.co.nz/0a18075.html?source=nav.

Third line of the story "Jinxed Phoenix....


or maybe I should just get a life?


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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Okay, is each of that guys 21 posts identical?

On topic, I agree. It's frustrating that no one seems to just call it football. It's either soccer or they're getting confused between the two. Maybe YF could pressure the press?

And Jinxed Phoenix? WTF? I think people are really strugglnig to get their heads round the idea we're not actually doing that badly, haven't we picked up about as many points in 15/16 games than the Knights did in 42?
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boltonc3pos has been banned. 

While everyone on here doesn't have to love the fever, being unable to explain what you have against them and just posting abuse is enough to earn a banning.

Once he can find a reason other than disagreeing with a couple of posters on here and somehow blaming the Fever for the club and stadiums increased security his views may be welcomed again.

I will add here that he has in the past made some reasoned posts, and not to write him off for what ever has flipped his switch since.
thefever2007-12-15 13:18:48
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I must be the only one who doesn't care what it's called - it's the same game. It was called Soccer in NZ up until a few years ago at all levels so it's not suprising it's used in the media.
valeo2007-12-15 13:55:02

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The educated call it football, the uneducated call it soccer. Its an easy way to know if someone knows what their on about.
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Fitz wrote:
The educated call it football, the uneducated call it soccer. Its an easy way to know if someone knows what their on about.

So I'm uneducated because I call it soccer?

Or am I simply not British?
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karori wrote:
Am I being too pedantic, or should bombard the media each time the "S" word is used.

The media, just can't get any consistency - one minute its Football, the next it's the "S" word.

prime example here
http://www.stuff.co.nz/0a18075.html?source=nav.

Third line of the story "Jinxed Phoenix....


or maybe I should just get a life?




I agree, it's just not cricket..
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Fitz wrote:
The educated call it football, the uneducated call it soccer. Its an easy way to know if someone knows what their on about.


That is just stupid. I'm sure the '82 world cup team all called it soccer!

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I just  love the sport, regardless of the name. I call it football, but don't mind if people call it soccer. It's all the same thing.
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'Football' will take a while to gel in I think. The football federations themselves have still got to convert. I just make sure I correct anyone that uses the term 'soccer' and tell them its 'footbal'l.

Founder

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<!-- bmi_SafeAddOnload(bmi_load,"bmi_orig_img");//--> We have called it football at the Dom P for about 18 months now, unfortunately others haven't always followed, but to call people who still use the term soccer stupid and uneducated is a bit odd. Every time I hear a former All White talk they call it soccer. Most players in NZ still call it soccer. It's going to take some time for a complete transformation but at the end of the day it's the same game and who cares what it's called? If you wanted to be pedantic you could make an argument for it to be called "association football", as Murray Deaker likes to say the one time every three years he talks football.
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well done the DOMP, pleased to see your organization responding to our concerns, and by the fact that in this instance you are ahead of the print media pack

all that's needed this weekend is a clip round the ears for sam worthington, and you'll have earned a fair degree of credibility
tigers2007-12-15 16:33:59
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The educated call it football, the uneducated call it soccer. Its an easy way to know if someone knows what their on about.
Sure - like the Socceroos. Pretty sure they'd give the "Football" playing All Whites a pretty good education on Soccer. (Sure it's the FFA in aus, but you know what I mean).

In all seriousness, despite all the FC's in the team names and it being called the A-League with no reference to Soccer, it's an Australian League. The game in Australia is called Soccer. This is always going to cause problems, no matter how many kiwis (and many aussies that like the sport) want to call it football.

That said, I try to call it football and succeed on the most part.
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I've been training myself to call it "football" ever since someone wrote into Salient bitching at me for using "soccer" in an article I wrote. That was more a case of journalistic laziness on my part, and I think that feeling of apathy tends to run rife in much of this country's news media. Hopefully that'll change over time.

But jeez, try having this discussion with an American...
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I've been training myself to call it "football" ever since someone wrote into Salient bitching at me for using "soccer" in an article I wrote. That was more a case of journalistic laziness on my part, and I think that feeling of apathy tends to run rife in much of this country's news media. Hopefully that'll change over time.

But jeez, try having this discussion with an American...


Agree, if were up to the yanks we'd be having penalty strikes in the goal box zone.
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I don't think I'll ever understand how a sport which consists of maybe 5% kicking could get away with being called "football".

But then again, I'll never know how a sport which has four fifteen-minute quarters could take over three hours to play, but that's the 'States for ya.


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I have no problem with it being called 'soccer' when talking to Americans.
When in Rome....

But I do get annoyed in NZ when journalists such as TV1's Andrew Saville who do know better deliberately call it "Soccer". 
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Hory wrote:
I have no problem with it being called 'soccer' when talking to Americans.
When in Rome....

But I do get annoyed in NZ when journalists such as TV1's Andrew Saville who do know better deliberately call it "Soccer". 


Why does it annoy you?  You know what he means....... Calm, let it wash over you like a beautiful sunset....aaahhhhhh........nice.
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domp wrote:
<!-- bmi_SafeAddOnload(bmi_load,"bmi_orig_img");//-->We have called it football at the Dom P for about 18 months now, unfortunately others haven't always followed, but to call people who still use the term soccer stupid and uneducated is a bit odd. Every time I hear a former All White talk they call it soccer. Most players in NZ still call it soccer. It's going to take some time for a complete transformation but at the end of the day it's the same game and who cares what it's called? If you wanted to be pedantic you could make an argument for it to be called "association football", as Murray Deaker likes to say the one time every three years he talks football.
 
 Love that one, pay that.
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Hory wrote:
I have no problem with it being called 'soccer' when talking to Americans.
When in Rome....


... don't wear a Man U shirt while walking home?
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In Australia it's going to be called soccer, because they have League and AFL which both want to be called 'footy'.

As we're in the A-League, I think it's easier if we call it soccer.

The advantage of soccer is that people know what you mean, non-fans might think you mean egg-chasing, and then you get into an argument over semantics which leaves them thinking 'pretentious d**kheads!'
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
it's football... end of.
 
NZ don't have any other sports like AFL or NFL so it's football.

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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Bevan wrote:
In Australia it's going to be called soccer, because they have League and AFL which both want to be called 'footy'.

As we're in the A-League, I think it's easier if we call it soccer.

The advantage of soccer is that people know what you mean, non-fans might think you mean egg-chasing, and then you get into an argument over semantics which leaves them thinking 'pretentious d**kheads!'


But I am a pretentious  d**khead.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It's still possible to call it football in Australia - context is all important.
 
Personally I couldn't care if it was called "kicky-heady ball", it's the game that's important.
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kiwi pie wrote:
It's still possible to call it football in Australia - context is all important.
 
Personally I couldn't care if it was called "kicky-heady ball", it's the game that's important.


nah that sucks
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Kick- heady Ball? aerial ping pong? Who cares- we know what it is- actually the press in Britain do use the phrase Soccer when it makes a more alliterative and titialting head line- ege Soccer Star inS ex Scandal-

Lifes too short- its a sunny sunday and im posting on here when i could be out playing kick-heady ball with ma mates

Salmon swim upstream

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The missus is on my case News- im dead keen tho'

article in the paper today says you don't sweat out alcohol thru physical exerstion- id like to try but!

Salmon swim upstream

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Yeah, Mrs News is out with the terror.

My theory is that if they aren't back in time to say no I can go... fingers crossed.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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it's football... end of.
 
NZ don't have any other sports like AFL or NFL so it's football.


Tell that to the Falcons or the Iron Blacks

Or course, AFL = Aussie Rules
NFL = Gridiron
NRL = Footy or League
Football = the sport the 'nix play.

But yeah, it's all semantics. I don't mind if people call it soccer. But I'll still hassle my American mates about it
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It's football for the obvious reason.  Since when did either of the rugby codes deserve the name 'football?' You pick up the ball and run with it in your hands, then throw it to someone else. Is that "football" Is gridiron football? AFL has a better case cos they kick it more. But kicky-heady is quite cool. Maybe AFL could be 'kicky-vegemite sandwich-chucky.' That way we can keep football thanks very much.  
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pao1908 wrote:
It's football for the obvious reason.  Since when did either of the rugby codes deserve the name 'football?' You pick up the ball and run with it in your hands, then throw it to someone else. Is that "football" Is gridiron football? AFL has a better case cos they kick it more. But kicky-heady is quite cool. Maybe AFL could be 'kicky-vegemite sandwich-chucky.' That way we can keep football thanks very much.  
 
With the new name for the sport we're forgetting the keeper, therefore maybe it should be" kicky heady catchy"
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh yea, forgot about that!
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