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Just A Small Concern

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Just A Small Concern
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Its great to see the lads playing some great entertaining football that makes you not want to miss a minute. But i have one corcern.

My concern is that the pheonix keep conceding early and first. This means that they in effect often start a goal behind. We are scoring goals often but the day will come when we find it more difficult to find the back of the net and this means that we will start to have to play Catch up football.

I think it will make it tough to win the league if we are forced to play football like that.
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
just enjoy the win
 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
FFS you have to be taking the piss,i say lets go behind every game if thats the result.Some how dont think some of you will be happy no matter how we win.

TAKE YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I don't give a damn, I just want to see us with a result after 90 minutes
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hey im glad they won but tbh i think it happens to often.
 
its happened in 5/6 games.
 
And if after every win you said "Hey lets just ignore this problem" you arent going to get better are you?
 
Still great to get 4.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Look
 
We conceed early, and score 4 goals
 
Seems to me that conceeding ealry lifts the boys

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

it's not good to concede goals anytime, but even the best teams do it. I'd take a 4-1 win over a 1-0 win anyday
I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
When you talk about conceding early, it's not because we don't turn up to play before the 2nd half. We had the better of the first ten minutes until Celeski scored. It was unfortunate that he did, but all it does is spark us into action.

We are a very strong team at the end of matches and have a very good bench
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Cosimo wrote:

it's not good to concede goals anytime, but even the best teams do it. I'd take a 4-1 win over a 1-0 win anyday
 
Agree.Whenever did those Aucks score 4 goals on the trott. Refresh my memory please!!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Big Boots wrote:
Cosimo wrote:

it's not good to concede goals anytime, but even the best teams do it. I'd take a 4-1 win over a 1-0 win anyday
 
Agree.Whenever did those Aucks score 4 goals on the trott. Refresh my memory please!!!


More like 4 goals in a season, surely!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I'm going to get the crap abused out of me for this......
 
But i told you so!
 
And yes i know the early goal was a stunner by QLD.
dljourdain2007-10-06 13:31:32
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yep it is a concern.

Founder

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
dljourdain wrote:
I'm going to get the crap abused out of me for this......
 
But i told you so!
 
And yes i know the early goal was a stunner by QLD.


so you know that its not worth mentioning as it has nothing to do with the ability of our defence?
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
It has to have something to do with our defence if it happens every game. valeo2007-10-06 15:40:37

a.haak

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
where was the defense for the second goal, at sixes and sevens that's where !
you could see that goal coming a mile away
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Remember, one of them was on the sideline having his nose patched from a kick in the face

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I  know that,  but ross should have dropped in to cover,  they knew he was getting treatment 
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yeh giddyup, we were caught out. Thats when the captain should be taking responsibilty, plus Dodd should have been screaming for someone to help mark them

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I can't say i saw much entertaining football from the Nix last night and thats not just sour grapes.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
wow i'm really not enjoying reading this forum today. and i'm disappointed. Why the heck is everyone suddenly acting as though this is some kind of disaster!!! i.e. the above post, seriously one game does not make a team or a season, and everyones acting like all of a sudden this team is full of holes, instead of just getting in behind them after they played a bad game which possibly had something to do with a different trial of tactics, that didnt go so well. fs
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I can't say i saw much entertaining football from the Nix last night and thats not just sour grapes.
 
 
muso wrote:
wow i'm really not enjoying reading this forum today. and i'm disappointed. Why the heck is everyone suddenly acting as though this is some kind of disaster!!! i.e. the above post, seriously one game does not make a team or a season, and everyones acting like all of a sudden this team is full of holes, instead of just getting in behind them after they played a bad game which possibly had something to do with a different trial of tactics, that didnt go so well. fs
 

Sorry you miss read the above comment this was not suppose to be negative. This was more of response to the lead thread below "entertaining football". I support the nix with all my heart and I am not really fussed on the style of football played . Please watch the replay from last night, the game plan didn�t work we had players falling over each other in disarray!!!. Even my main man Tony was all at sea and had a shocker he missed Daniel.

 

Its great to see the lads playing some great entertaining football that makes you not want to miss a minute. But i have one corcern.

My concern is that the pheonix keep conceding early and first. This means that they in effect often start a goal behind. We are scoring goals often but the day will come when we find it more difficult to find the back of the net and this means that we will start to have to play Catch up football.

I think it will make it tough to win the league if we are forced to play football like that.

 

 

Big Boots2007-10-06 23:51:16
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
sorry bro, wasn't anything against u, i was venting and there was a seeming close outlet.. sorry :D
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giddyup wrote:
where was the defense for the second goal, at sixes and sevens that's where !you could see that goal coming a mile away


The second goal was really Lochead's fault, he made the cardinal sin for a defender of chasing the strikers without knowing where the rest of the defenders were. If he had communicated (or simply looked) at the rest of the defensive line and stayed put the Roar strikers would have been 2-3 yards offside.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
we will not win every game in the season and that is the way football should be,happy to exept losses on the way and most teams learn while losing and hopefully get better,
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While I agree that it's something that they should be sorting out, I'll rather lose a goal in the first ten minutes than go 1-0 down in the last 5.

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I might write a letter to the Phoenix management staff and tell them that they should stop conceeding the first goal, because I am sure they haven't thought of doing that yet.

 
They might make me manager.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I might write a letter to the Phoenix management staff and tell them that they should stop conceeding the first goal, because I am sure they haven't thought of doing that yet.

 
They might make me manager.
While your writing to them can you also please ask them to make sure they score the winning goal in the 85th minute if the weather in wellington in future home games is like todays.

GET YOUR SHIRTS OFF FOR THE BOYS

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ballane wrote:

I might write a letter to the Phoenix management staff and tell them that they should stop conceeding the first goal, because�I am sure they haven't thought of doing that yet.


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They might make me manager.
While your writing to them can you also please ask them to make sure they score the winning goal in the 85th minute if the weather in wellington in future home games is like todays.


Wouldn't the shirts have to go off when the goal goes in - that would still leave 5 mins plus stoppage time of bare chests. Cue pneumonia on a day like this. FM should get them to score the winners last minute of injury time...
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Maybe that is why a goal is conceded early, to postpone the timing of the shirt removal in order to lengthen the life span of the supporter base.

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I might write a letter to the Phoenix management staff and tell them that they should stop conceeding the first goal, because I am sure they haven't thought of doing that yet.

 
They might make me manager.
 
Another Mike Bassett???

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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giddyup wrote:
where was the defense for the second goal, at sixes and sevens that's where !you could see that goal coming a mile away


The second goal was really Lochead's fault, he made the cardinal sin for a defender of chasing the strikers without knowing where the rest of the defenders were. If he had communicated (or simply looked) at the rest of the defensive line and stayed put the Roar strikers would have been 2-3 yards offside.


I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I think Moss should be held responsible for the second goal. The ball was going straight to the head of a striker not far in front of him and all he needed to do was jump in the general direction of that striker. If he had jumped in front of the striker he would have saved that header with ease.
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 I think the reason we lost that game was because Ricky et al haven't been reading the forum and making use of our vast store of football knowledge, basically we should be running this team by some form of committee, and any substitutions etc., should be put to a vote, and approved by a show of hands or removing of shirt (counts for 2 votes). Instead of conceding an early goal why not try starting off with ten players, and scoring an early goal.  these tactics should work every time, I should be in charge of the AB's I'm so smart
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The second goal was really Lochead's fault, he made the cardinal sin for a defender of chasing the strikers without knowing where the rest of the defenders were. If he had communicated (or simply looked) at the rest of the defensive line and stayed put the Roar strikers would have been 2-3 yards offside.


 yeah after looking at it again i agree and apologise to ross for blaming him for being at fault

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I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I think Moss should be held responsible for the second goal. The ball was going straight to the head of a striker not far in front of him and all he needed to do was jump in the general direction of that striker. If he had jumped in front of the striker he would have saved that header with ease.
 
I don't think he would have got in ahead of the striker though. He stepped forward to close down the header, which is a fair enough decision. You could argue that he should have stayed on the line to try and react to the header, given that he ended up stranded. Ultimately, I think we got caught out not reacting well enough to missing a central defender to treatment.
 
 
Disclaimer: I am quoting from memory and haven't seen the incident since Friday night, so reserve the right to find my memory at fault when I see a replay!
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giddyup wrote:
where was the defense for the second goal, at sixes and sevens that's where !you could see that goal coming a mile away


The second goal was really Lochead's fault, he made the cardinal sin for a defender of chasing the strikers without knowing where the rest of the defenders were. If he had communicated (or simply looked) at the rest of the defensive line and stayed put the Roar strikers would have been 2-3 yards offside.


I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I think Moss should be held responsible for the second goal. The ball was going straight to the head of a striker not far in front of him and all he needed to do was jump in the general direction of that striker. If he had jumped in front of the striker he would have saved that header with ease.
 
I diisagree entirely. There is nothing he can do for an open header! I blame Ricki for not subbing O'Dor quicker

Founder

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Feverish wrote:

giddyup wrote:
where was the defense for the second goal, at sixes and sevens that's where !you could see that goal coming a mile away


The second goal was really Lochead's fault, he made the cardinal sin for a defender of chasing the strikers without knowing where the rest of the defenders were. If he had communicated (or simply looked) at the rest of the defensive line and stayed put the Roar strikers would have been 2-3 yards offside.


I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I think Moss should be held responsible for the second goal. The ball was going straight to the head of a striker not far in front of him and all he needed to do was jump in the general direction of that striker. If he had jumped in front of the striker he would have saved that header with ease.
 
I diisagree entirely. There is nothing he can do for an open header! I blame Ricki for not subbing O'Dor quicker
 
I blame Graham Henry! No wait! I blame the parents of Robbie Kruse!!!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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Feverish wrote:
giddyup wrote:
where was the defense for the second goal, at sixes and sevens that's where !you could see that goal coming a mile away
The second goal was really Lochead's fault, he made the cardinal sin for a defender of chasing the strikers without knowing where the rest of the defenders were. If he had communicated (or simply looked) at the rest of the defensive line and stayed put the Roar strikers would have been 2-3 yards offside.
I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I think Moss should be held responsible for the second goal. The ball was going straight to the head of a striker not far in front of him and all he needed to do was jump in the general direction of that striker. If he had jumped in front of the striker he would have saved that header with ease.

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I diisagree entirely. There is nothing he can do for an open header! I blame Ricki for not subbing O'Dor quicker


It wouldn't have been an open header if Moss had jumped in the general direction of the striker the ball was going to (I think it was Kruse). If Moss had got in there it would have put the striker off and would have narrowed the angle of the header.
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Feverish wrote:
giddyup wrote:
where was the defense for the second goal, at sixes and sevens that's where !you could see that goal coming a mile away
The second goal was really Lochead's fault, he made the cardinal sin for a defender of chasing the strikers without knowing where the rest of the defenders were. If he had communicated (or simply looked) at the rest of the defensive line and stayed put the Roar strikers would have been 2-3 yards offside.
I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I think Moss should be held responsible for the second goal. The ball was going straight to the head of a striker not far in front of him and all he needed to do was jump in the general direction of that striker. If he had jumped in front of the striker he would have saved that header with ease.

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I diisagree entirely. There is nothing he can do for an open header! I blame Ricki for not subbing O'Dor quicker


It wouldn't have been an open header if Moss had jumped in the general direction of the striker the ball was going to (I think it was Kruse). If Moss had got in there it would have put the striker off and would have narrowed the angle of the header.


Like I said, if Lochead had kept in line with the other defenders, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
this is idiotic.
 
I blame the first goal on Aloisi, as if he had won the toss, we would have been playing in the opposite direction, and it would Zullo would have scored an own goal.

All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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