Knock knock - just typical media bashing

Knock knock - just typical media bashing

From Radio Sport Concerns over Brazilians at the Phoenix7/24/2007 8:36 AM

The South American theatrics by the Brazilians playing for the Phoenix are not likely to win over the fans

Despite their undoubted ability, football fans may not be won over by the Brazilian quartet at the Wellington Phoenix.

That is the warning from commentator Gordon Irving following the club's first home hit-out against the inaugural A-League champions, Sydney FC, which they won three-nil.

Two of the Brazilians started against Sydney and Irving says there were some concerns. He says the jury is still out as he did not like the theatrics that is often seen with South American players. Irving says it will not go down well with the fans if players are rolling around on the ground and it certainly will not be accepted at away matches. He says coach Ricki Herbert will be aware of it and will try to get rid of it as it will not help them when the A-League season gets underway late next month.

While the win over Sydney is encouraging, Irving says past experience has shown pre-season form does not necessarily translate into A-League success. He says Adelaide United did not win a match in the Pre-Season Cup competition but went on to secure a place in the A-League grand final.

phil_style2007-07-24 09:51:30

Typical nonsense.  Which end is he talking out of?

Sheesh...can't we just wallow in the glory for a bit?

Who is this guy anywway? I wanna write a response. . ..

Irving can get f*ckd....just cos adelaide are gonna get DICKED

He is the top Australian commentator.

He'll just say that he was quoting Gordon Irving.

Has Mr Irving asked the fans.  He has not asked me because they have won me over.  What a plunker!!!

I loved the Brazilians, thought they were great. 

Phil,  I reckon you should write,  let him have it.

It's actually kind of hard to respond becasue Irvings actual quotes are so short that it is hard to pin down an exact opinion. phil_style2007-07-24 10:07:26

What's even more interesting is how Adelaide never won a match in the pre-season cup last year but won the pre-season cup competition.

Pretty hard to do that i would have thought.
Hard News2007-07-24 10:20:38

Thats the sort of ill informed bullsh*te you are likely to hear from a f**king rugby fan!

But they never made the Season 1 Grand Final.  Either way it's complete rubbish.  Typical of the ill-researched clap trap that the NZ Sports media all to often get away with.

Gordon Irving is an NZ commentator and my bet is he made 15 minutes of comments and they focussed on one negative item in that.

Of course he is, cheers HN

I'm ringing radiosport now to find out where they sourced this article

I'm listening online. Make sure you give YF a plug.

Cheers.

Not Telfer at the moment. Think its Darcy Waldergrave (sp?). They're going on and on about the Tour De France.

No, he's away doing the netball.  Kent Johns is on, but the interview with irving doesn't appear to be  from his show.

Darcy is on at twelve.

Kent's a decent football man.
Hard News2007-07-24 10:57:20

I've emailed RadioSport (lines were busy). phil_style2007-07-24 10:57:24

I got it from their newspage

http://radiosport.co.nz/SportsNews/spsoc/Detail.aspx?id=121350

Yeah, cheers Daikiwi, but the article itself does not have a listed author.   .  .  That's why I'm tryign to find out, because it wasn't written by Irving, and deosn't have the NZPA reference either. . .

No reference? Just goes to show what poor journalism it was.

It must annoy Telfer that his son loves his football.

They don't bylline their newspages. They are basically the scripts from their news. It is legit journalism, but it is just SOOOOO negative. And that is the point.

I know Deaker's son does.  Aren't Telfer's kids still pretty young ?

I remember him saying his son woke him up when N.Z. scored their first goal against Wales. I think this son is about 13.
I emailed radio sport to see if they would post the interview with Irving in the audio bank. Just got a reply. They will do it.
sanday2007-07-24 11:49:43

I hard the interview with Irving, it was on Andrew Dewhursts show on Sunday night. I think the intervew itself was pretty good, Irving seems quite enthusiastc about the Phoenix. . .  I take issue with who-ever summarised that interview becasue it wasn't a negative interview as the article suggests

What is the membership of Yellow Fever - ie do you count all those who visit the forums or just those who have signed up. The reason being, is that this website has quickly become a fan's voice piece, and that can be really powerful.

Yep, you guys are doing a really good job of making people stand up and listen. Good work :D

I know various media types and club reps do visit at times and try and guage the mood of the fans.  Problem is that they have to care about what the fans think.  So when you have an article like this which is clearly designed to put a negative spin on Sunday's performance then the mood of the fans isn't really taken into account.  All I think that we can do is ring Radio Sport and let them know that we don't agree.

Black Plague may be able to correct me on this but my understanding is that in Brazil diving, feigning injury etc is all considered to be part of the skill of the game. Being able to gain any kind of advantage is seen as admirable and they don't really see it as "cheating" in the same way that your average uptight, po-faced, W.A.S.P does.