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Next Season's Nix - Who Do We Want To Keep?

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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Another point on this.

Two weeks ago, some people would have said Hearfield out, Ferrante out, Muscat out.  Now a fortnight later they have all played important roles in a win.  Who is to say that in a fortnight, Plodder, Richard Johnson and someone else won't do the same ?


possibly, but I think we are a lot closer now to knowing who has got the attitude, application and skills to nail down a first team spot. We also have improved our tactics to suit our squad better- a 442 with Covs starting every match seemed to be a bit silly given the players we signed.

3 in the midfield and 3 up front with two wingers seems to suit our squad IMO. Johnson is good cover for Brown or McKain. Plodder hasn't done anything wrong with his time this season, and Mulligan must have something better to contribute. Muscat has played a good hand in two wins over Sydney. Gao and Daniel both surely have something to add to this season, putting pressure on Bertos and Hearfield.

Ferrante is odd, because we don't seem to have anyone else who plays the same way he does.

Kwasnik has only had one good game I can remember, and plenty of chances. Gao has shown a lot more than him, especially in our home win against Sydney, when he roused the team from slumber.

The sentimental option of Covs has failed. He won't make it, and it is sad that he has to go this way, rather than having a final season here where he got a few goals from the bench, and left on a high with the fans.

I think there is certainly value for the club in both Muscat and Gao. I don't think they will be jetisonning either of these players with out a damn good reason.







martinb2008-11-10 21:49:26


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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Gao always said he was here for one year anyway
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
martinb wrote:
I think there is certainly value for the club in both Muscat and Gao. I don't think they will be jettisoning either of these players with out a damn good reason.


Care to lay some money ?


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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
martinb wrote:
I think there is certainly value for the club in both Muscat and Gao. I don't think they will be jettisoning either of these players with out a damn good reason.


Care to lay some money ?




If I get to decide what a damn good reason is after next years squad is finalised I'm in for a bigger gamble than JK with our super fund.


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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Players we have to keep:
 
Ben Sigmund: The best player for us this season by a mile.
Karl Dodd:Bloody good defender really solid just dont play him in the midfield
Leo Bertos:One of the few players in the phoenix with real flair, and unlike leilei gao he works hard as well
Glen Moss:Really awesome keeper better than Paston i reckon. He should have come back as soon as he recovered from his injury.
Costa Barbarouses:Very quick and skillful and still only 19
 
 
Players we probably should keep:
 
Michael Ferrante:Great passing game and fights hard
Tim Brown:Solid player in midfield good attacking prowess
Tony Lochhead:Had a great first season but has been a bit below par this year, but he played well against Sydney defending and attacking and I think it would be good to hold on to him
Jon Mckain:Started the season as a defender and had an irritating habit of giving away stupid penalties. Has since moved to defensive midfield and played alright.
Andrew Durante:Clearly a good defender, but having three excellent centre backs creates a headache for ricki herbert
Mark Paston:Very good under the high ball, the only area where Glen Moss may be lacking, but definitely a second string keeper in my eyes.
Vince Lia:I rate him very highly and was disappointed when I heard he would be out for a long time
 
Players we need to get rid of:
 
Leilei Gao:Has the skills but doesn't work hard enough and doesn;t make an impact when he is playing.
Adam Kwasnik:Has been very disappointing this season. He hasn't done anything spectacularly wrong, but you don't notice him when he plays and I think Leo Bertos is a much better bet on the wing
David Mulligan:He's sh*t. What more do I need to say?
Richard Johnson:For someone who used to play for watford he hasn't impressed me much. I think he's getting on a bit.
Vaughn Coveney:Coveney works really hard, but one goal in one and a half seasons isn't good enough for the second best striker
 
Players we should buy:
Benjamin Totori:Plays for Waitakere United, but every time I see him play I'm impressed by his speed and skills. Ben Sigmund played in the NZFC, why can't Totori.
Someone like Amaral: What the Phoenix lack is a playmaker from the midfield, someone who can dictate the game. Amaral can do this. I'm not saying we should get him, but we need a similar player.
 
Manager:
I'm not sure about Ricki Herbert. I think if he wasn't the national coach he would have been fired by now.
 
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benisgangsta wrote:
Andrew Durante:Clearly a good defender, but having three excellent centre backs creates a headache for ricki herbert
 
...but it's a nice headache to have.
 
Have to keep (focusing on the positive rather than the negative):
 
Durante, Moss, Bertos, Daniel, Sigmund, McKain, Dodd, Lochhead, Brown.
 
I don't know enuf to comment about:
 
Barbarouses, Draper, Hearfield, Ferrante, Lia.
 
I rate Paston but think we'd be doing one of Moss/Paston a favour if we 'allowed' them to play somewhere else. One or the other with a junior keeper for backup would do + can always dip into the NZFC for emergency injury cover.
 
Everyone else has a point to prove by season's end to move onto keep list I think.
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benisgangsta wrote:
Benjamin Totori:Plays for Waitakere United, but every time I see him play I'm impressed by his speed and skills.
 


Totally with you on that

but i think he lacks effort

Very GAO
HK_Keeper2008-11-12 21:58:55
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benisgangsta wrote:
Benjamin Totori:Plays for Waitakere United, but every time I see him play I'm impressed by his speed and skills.
 


Is this Totori himself asking for a contract?
 
Seriously though... Maybe as a second or third striker, but I think first we need a striker who is a proven scorer of goals at a decent level a la Joel Porter first. And yes I know he's heavily linked with GCU, just using him as an example.
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Leeds_Chris wrote:

Is this Totori himself asking for a contract?
 


Full name - benjamintotoriisgangsta?
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over 17 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Solomons represent, au!
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