oh well there's 21 more points up for grabs lets get as many as we can
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Like Sillybich at Waitakere looking for answers, you don't have much of an idea whats going on about football do you??
I think its obvious we got thrashed by a better team. End of story.
Agent 472008-12-06 13:02:23
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Like Sillybich at Waitakere looking for answers, you don't have much of an idea whats going on about football do you??
I think its obvious we got thrashed by a better team. End of story.
There is no doubt that we got beaten by a better team. Doesn't mean that we didn't do a few things wrong and that those things shouldn't be placed in the memory bank for future encounters.
A semi pro team getting beaten by us 7-0 isn't comparable to us being beaten 6-1 to a team that has the same amount of money avaliable. I don't know who Sillybich is either.
Constantly saying i'm an idiot because I don't agree with your viewpoint is kinda childish btw.
valeo2008-12-06 13:20:54
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cant believe Cassio showed me he's not crap like I thought he was in this game
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Isn't football sobering? Victory against Victory last week and an unlucky* loss to Adelaide last night.
* = indefatigably optimist version.
* = indefatigably optimist version.
Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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Sometimes you get games like this. It just happens. Its pointless trying to ask why, trying to find a person/s to blame it on. The best thing to do is completely forget about it and move on. Don't dwell on it because of mental scaring. Collectively as a team we were flat and no-one save maybe Paston, can walk away and say 'I gave something tonight' They all under performed and yeah - file it away as a football lesson and not to read your own press too much.
Spot on. Great summary.Profile pic. Should you be interested. Lakhsen, on the right, lost touch with him.
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
Mohammed, on the left, I'm still in touch with. He's now living in Agadez, Niger. More focused on his animals now as tourism has dried up. Is active with a co-op promoting local goods, leather work and bijouterie, into Europe.
20/5/20
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Sometimes you get games like this. It just happens. Its pointless trying to ask why, trying to find a person/s to blame it on. The best thing to do is completely forget about it and move on. Don't dwell on it because of mental scaring. Collectively as a team we were flat and no-one save maybe Paston, can walk away and say 'I gave something tonight' They all under performed and yeah - file it away as a football lesson and not to read your own press too much.
Adelaide are class - a top AFC team, top of the table and unbeaten at home. They were given chances and they put them away, hence why they are unbeaten at home and a top AFC club.
Time to move on and just leave it there.
I havent bothered reading through the whole thread as it looks to depressing but Agent 47 I agree with you, sometimes things just all go wrong and you get beat in a blow out.
I actually dont think its a bad thing (apart from how it may affect our next home crowd). After 3 wins in a row the Nix were sailing along nicely but now have been given a good shake up and I'd sooner it happened now rather than 1 or 2 weeks out from the playoffs. Its a good time for the team/coach to sit down and evalute the level they are at now and were they need to get to to compete with the likes of Adelaide come the finals.
Lets do our bit on Saturday, forget last night, and get in behind them as they give the Gorly a hiding on Saturday night. 
A dog with a bone :)
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Sometimes you get games like this. It just happens. Its pointless trying to ask why, trying to find a person/s to blame it on. The best thing to do is completely forget about it and move on. Don't dwell on it because of mental scaring. Collectively as a team we were flat and no-one save maybe Paston, can walk away and say 'I gave something tonight' They all under performed and yeah - file it away as a football lesson and not to read your own press too much.
Adelaide are class - a top AFC team, top of the table and unbeaten at home. They were given chances and they put them away, hence why they are unbeaten at home and a top AFC club.
Time to move on and just leave it there.
I havent bothered reading through the whole thread as it looks to depressing but Agent 47 I agree with you, sometimes things just all go wrong and you get beat in a blow out.
I actually dont think its a bad thing (apart from how it may affect our next home crowd). After 3 wins in a row the Nix were sailing along nicely but now have been given a good shake up and I'd sooner it happened now rather than 1 or 2 weeks out from the playoffs. Its a good time for the team/coach to sit down and evalute the level they are at now and were they need to get to to compete with the likes of Adelaide come the finals.
Lets do our bit on Saturday, forget last night, and get in behind them as they give the Gorly a hiding on Saturday night.
ok who's using Nightz's login and posting positive statements?
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One of the Aussie papers wasted no time in calling our performance "Knights-like".
Sigh....
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Fair call, every time we go to Hindmarsh we turn in to the Knights.
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Finally some wise words. I see what you done there. Unkind beacuse it has not being very kind to us. Good gag.
Oh Wellington is wonderful. We got the wind, the rain and the phoenix. Oh Wellington is wonderful.
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I was in Napier all week, that hot sun does funny things to me. 
nightz2008-12-06 21:18:37
A dog with a bone :)
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I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot, etc after a result like that. Unfortunately I don't see any of them actually coaching at anywhere like A-League level in the real world. Cracks me up.
My feeling after the game was the same as some previous comments. Acknowledge that this was a poor performance (and it was very poor)and move on. I haven't seen a lot of the Phoenix this season but there is no way that this Phoenix side is that bad.
We Still Love You Colin We Do!
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I haven't seen a lot of the Phoenix this season but there is no way that this Phoenix side is that bad.
I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot
I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot
Oh f**king jog on mate having watched every game this and last season i can tell you we we're that bad last night and having played football for well over twenty seven years i have a pretty good idea of the game of football as well.
Yes,last night we we're beaten by a better team, but that doesn't mean we can't have an opinion as to why it went wrong, how little it really counts for in life is another story.
giddyup2008-12-06 23:42:23
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Good call. And to be fair, the reaction after last night has been pretty mild - tinker with a selection or two, a tactical change here and there.
Very little of the angst, wrist-slitting, and "Sack Ricki" lynch mob mentality from earlier in the season.
Are we growing up and accepting that losses and dips in form are a fact of life?
Say it aint so.wolfman2008-12-07 00:09:48
Very little of the angst, wrist-slitting, and "Sack Ricki" lynch mob mentality from earlier in the season.
Are we growing up and accepting that losses and dips in form are a fact of life?
Say it aint so.wolfman2008-12-07 00:09:48
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I haven't seen a lot of the Phoenix this season but there is no way that this Phoenix side is that bad.
I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot
I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot
Oh f**king jog on mate having watched every game this and last season i can tell you we we're that bad last night and having played football for well over twenty seven years i have a pretty good idea of the game of football as well.
Yes,last night we we're beaten by a better team, but that doesn't mean we can't have an opinion as to why it went wrong, how little it really counts for in life is another story.
Shame you can't read pal. Never said we weren't bad last night - we were. Never said you can't have an opinion either. And whoopdy-do, I've played football for well over twenty-nine years
Thanks for that!
We Still Love You Colin We Do!
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So you come in here saying you've barely watched the Phoenix all season but that we are idiots for stating our opinions? Nice
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So you come in here saying you've barely watched the Phoenix all season but that we are idiots for stating our opinions? Nice
Gees aren't we sensitive. Can you read? Never said you were idiots either however that may change..... You can express your opinions all you want just like I can. So what level are you coaching at? Still crack me up!!
We Still Love You Colin We Do!
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I haven't seen a lot of the Phoenix this season but there is no way that this Phoenix side is that bad.
I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot
I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot
Oh f**king jog on mate having watched every game this and last season i can tell you we we're that bad last night and having played football for well over twenty seven years i have a pretty good idea of the game of football as well.
Yes,last night we we're beaten by a better team, but that doesn't mean we can't have an opinion as to why it went wrong, how little it really counts for in life is another story.
Shame you can't read pal. Never said we weren't bad last night - we were. Never said you can't have an opinion either. And whoopdy-do, I've played football for well over twenty-nine years
Thanks for that!
it's not a bloody competition to see who has played or watched the the game the longest - doesnt mean that your opinion is any more important than he next man -
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So what coaching level are you at then 
giddyup2008-12-07 08:58:59
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So what coaching level are you at then
I'm not a coach, I'm a fan
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I played badly for a number of years and coached my son's team without success for a few as well, so all my opinions on this forum are well worth reading 
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So what coaching level are you at then
I'm not a coach, I'm a fan
me too
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So what coaching level are you at then
I'm not a coach, I'm a fan
me too good man, Perth game next week will be so important to the seasn for the nix. I'm going up for that one. Perth had good win last night and we have lost both our games to them this season (away) - will not be easy -
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There is no doubt that we got beaten by a better team. Doesn't mean that we didn't do a few things wrong and that those things shouldn't be placed in the memory bank for future encounters.
A semi pro team getting beaten by us 7-0 isn't comparable to us being beaten 6-1 to a team that has the same amount of money avaliable. I don't know who Sillybich is either.
Constantly saying i'm an idiot because I don't agree with your viewpoint is kinda childish btw.
No I'm not saying you're an idiot for not agreeing with me. I'm saying you are an idiot for saying idiotic things.
Read the forum. You are the only one suggesting that we sit down and digest this and figure it out.
That makes you an idiot. Add that to your commentary during the match which 'you shouldn't be held accountable for' and you showing that you lack football knowledge in these, enforces that point.
Agent 472008-12-07 09:24:39
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There is no doubt that we got beaten by a better team. Doesn't mean that we didn't do a few things wrong and that those things shouldn't be placed in the memory bank for future encounters.
A semi pro team getting beaten by us 7-0 isn't comparable to us being beaten 6-1 to a team that has the same amount of money avaliable. I don't know who Sillybich is either.
Constantly saying i'm an idiot because I don't agree with your viewpoint is kinda childish btw.
No I'm not saying you're an idiot for not agreeing with me. I'm saying you are an idiot for saying idiotic things.
Read the forum. You are the only one suggesting that we sit down and digest this and figure it out.
That makes you an idiot. Add that to your commentary during the match which 'you shouldn't be held accountable for' and you showing that you lack football knowledge in these, enforces that point.
Talk about the pot and the kettle.
Having a different point of view from several others is perfectly fine on this forum and not grounds for abuse.
Let me say that I think if the management of the team dont look at this match and learn something from it then they are bordering on negligent. You dont lose 6 - 1 and not learn something out of it, surely. Wouldnt you examine what sort of communication was happening on the field to tighten things up, call on players if support is lacking, have a plan to react faster if holes are showing etc?
I agree about being accountable for our comments on here and am often at people to think a bit more before they post.
I am getting around to accepting this loss by my team, and do the same for a few posts made injudiciously
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Boys! Boys! ... can we not call each other names, just admit that your all fully qualified to begin work at any and all positions within the body corporate of football NZ and leave it at that.
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[edited] Let me say that I think if the management of the team dont look at this match and learn something from it then they are bordering on negligent. You dont lose 6 - 1 and not learn something out of it, surely. Wouldnt you examine what sort of communication was happening on the field to tighten things up, call on players if support is lacking, have a plan to react faster if holes are showing etc?
Agree with all of that. And let's learn any lessons before we face the Glory who last night dicked Melbourne 3-1.
"Perth Glory breathed new life into what had been flimsy finals hopes in emphatic fashion tonight with a stunning 3-1 win over high-flying Melbourne Victory at Members Equity Stadium.
In desperate need of a win against a Melbourne side aiming to go back to the A-League summit, Glory produced a rousing display to climb off the bottom.
David Mitchell's side are now just four points adrift of fourth place with seven matches to play, while Victory stay second, a point behind leaders Adelaide United, who took over top spot with Friday night's 6-1 thrashing of Wellington."
Read the whole story at:
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wow wtf.
After I got back from the Melbourne game, my father called me to say that my Granmother had passed away, so I've been away tending to family matters until just after the funeral when my father - full of emotion - told me that the nix lost by 5 goals in Aussie.
I refused to believe him. It is the only nix game I have missed, I think I am glad that I did!
mikecj2008-12-07 11:07:16Central Hawkes Bay Nix
and tragic follower of Charlton Athletic
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condolences to you and your family mikecj
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There is no doubt that we got beaten by a better team. Doesn't mean that we didn't do a few things wrong and that those things shouldn't be placed in the memory bank for future encounters.
A semi pro team getting beaten by us 7-0 isn't comparable to us being beaten 6-1 to a team that has the same amount of money avaliable. I don't know who Sillybich is either.
Constantly saying i'm an idiot because I don't agree with your viewpoint is kinda childish btw.
No I'm not saying you're an idiot for not agreeing with me. I'm saying you are an idiot for saying idiotic things.
Read the forum. You are the only one suggesting that we sit down and digest this and figure it out.
That makes you an idiot. Add that to your commentary during the match which 'you shouldn't be held accountable for' and you showing that you lack football knowledge in these, enforces that point.
Talk about the pot and the kettle.
Having a different point of view from several others is perfectly fine on this forum and not grounds for abuse.
Let me say that I think if the management of the team dont look at this match and learn something from it then they are bordering on negligent. You dont lose 6 - 1 and not learn something out of it, surely. Wouldnt you examine what sort of communication was happening on the field to tighten things up, call on players if support is lacking, have a plan to react faster if holes are showing etc?
I agree about being accountable for our comments on here and am often at people to think a bit more before they post.
I am getting around to accepting this loss by my team, and do the same for a few posts made injudiciously
at last some sense - I can't believe people saying to move on, just a bad result, lets look ahead and not look at where we went wrong after getting annihilated 6-1
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Ah, that was such an enjoyable night out. Brings back so many memories...really glum looking News, the bar pretty much emptying at half-time, blind optimism of some of us that we would come back and somehow manage to score 8...Good times.
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There is no doubt that we got beaten by a better team. Doesn't mean that we didn't do a few things wrong and that those things shouldn't be placed in the memory bank for future encounters.
A semi pro team getting beaten by us 7-0 isn't comparable to us being beaten 6-1 to a team that has the same amount of money avaliable. I don't know who Sillybich is either.
Constantly saying i'm an idiot because I don't agree with your viewpoint is kinda childish btw.
No I'm not saying you're an idiot for not agreeing with me. I'm saying you are an idiot for saying idiotic things.
Read the forum. You are the only one suggesting that we sit down and digest this and figure it out.
That makes you an idiot. Add that to your commentary during the match which 'you shouldn't be held accountable for' and you showing that you lack football knowledge in these, enforces that point.
Ok, from now on I will only say good thiings about the team. Even if we get trashed 10-0. Seriously - supporting a football team is emotional (sounds a little fruity), not necessarily logical. Posting on a forum like this is a place to get your thoughts out and everyone should be able to do it without people like you saying they are completely wrong etc.
Of course when we lose 6-1 people will say some negative things and not be happy about it. You don't have to hold a damn UEFA Pro license to support a team.
Please point out my 'lack of football knowledge' btw. That we were using the very similar tactics against Adelaide that we used against Melbourne and they weren't working? Looked like it to me in the first half. That we were defending poorly from set pieces? Pretty obvious as well. (one minute after I said it they scored from one) I watched the replay and I admit that I was harsh on Muscat as he got no support and was often placed in 2v1 situations.
Everyone realises that you win some and you lose some. Sometimes you get hammered. Doesn't mean we have to like it.
valeo2008-12-07 14:13:15
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Agent 47 and Valeo are in
I like tautologies because I like them.
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if that's the case I think stefan and oska might be as well
sorry ...
sorry ...
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I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot, etc after a result like that. Unfortunately I don't see any of them actually coaching at anywhere like A-League level in the real world. Cracks me up.
Agree with the above to a degree. Ofcourse we can all have our own opinions on it, but some people bend over backwards to sound like a seasoned veteran who knows the game like the back of their hand; spouting knowledge hither and thither to try to sound better. Can be amusing, but also annoying.
loyalgunner2008-12-07 17:07:13Agree with the above to a degree. Ofcourse we can all have our own opinions on it, but some people bend over backwards to sound like a seasoned veteran who knows the game like the back of their hand; spouting knowledge hither and thither to try to sound better. Can be amusing, but also annoying.
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So what coaching level are you at then
Well I did ask first but lets just say the Phoenix won't be calling me any time soon
We Still Love You Colin We Do!
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I love the way all the football "coaches" (on this forum) come out with their analysis of what went wrong, who should be shot, etc after a result like that. Unfortunately I don't see any of them actually coaching at anywhere like A-League level in the real world. Cracks me up.
Agree with the above to a degree. Ofcourse we can all have our own opinions on it, but some people bend over backwards to sound like a seasoned veteran who knows the game like the back of their hand; spouting knowledge hither and thither to try to sound better. Can be amusing, but also annoying.
Agree with the above to a degree. Ofcourse we can all have our own opinions on it, but some people bend over backwards to sound like a seasoned veteran who knows the game like the back of their hand; spouting knowledge hither and thither to try to sound better. Can be amusing, but also annoying.
That was what I was saying but in a more smart arse way which got lost in the posting. Never said people shouldn't post their opinions though. People should - that's what a forum is all about. I reserve the right to crack up at some of them though
Condolences Mikecj. Your post puts it all in perspective.
We Still Love You Colin We Do!
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