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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Other Club

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The knights had a deal with charlton from the EPL and from memory had the chartlon logo on there sleeve.
 
i rememeber watching young knights and they said that players who are young and talented and need experience would come over here to the knights on loan..
 
 
Is there any chance for any big club and the 'Nix to do the same deal?
 
it would be extremly useful

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Kingz - Chelsea
Knights - Charlton
Northern Spirit - Rangers

Sum total of advantages for the team in this part of the world ?  A big fat nothing.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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But if we got some of the talent comning out of the uk... but it would be import spots i guess

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The problem is the kids don't want to come here.  Why would they come here on loan when they can go to an English League 1 or League 2 side and still be seen by scouts and managers from other English sides ?

Come out here and the chances are you'll be forgotten.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
true..football here needs to be put on the map.. everyone knows the ABS but noone knows the AWS

ive got a song that wont take long, Adelaide are rubbish.. the second verse is same as the first.. ADELAIDE ARE RUBBISH

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
the chances of getting one with a EPL team are slim to none, not that it will help (for reasons previously mentioned

...also, why would a team like Reading (just an example) want to fly half way around the world, play a game against a team very few of their fans would know about, and then fly back, when its just a short jump across to the european mainland where there are an abundance of top clubs with more $$$$$, friendlier tv times etc etc...

i'd rather see us try to get a strategic alliance with Toronto or another MLS club or even better for us, one with a respectable Asian club...it would be of more benifit IMO and also more realistic of getting 'help' (money, tv rights etc) from it
gings2007-07-16 22:45:08


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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think that agreements that we had gave teams first option on our players and we received a fee and a bit of a name drop. With Charlton, the Knights got their logo on the sleeve, great bonus!!

It seems we have many Toronto FC supporters on these boards.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We should talk to Port Vale - get Robbie to play up front!!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Why would we want a deal with a big EPL club if they got to take our best players? That would just hurt the club wouldn't it?
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linds wrote:
I think that agreements that we had gave teams first option on our players and we received a fee and a bit of a name drop. With Charlton, the Knights got their logo on the sleeve, great bonus!!

It seems we have many Toronto FC supporters on these boards.
 
The fans do seem to have some connection going on between Toronto FC and the Phoenix.
 
But what are the advantages really? They wouldn't want to lend us one of their top players and we wouldn't lend them one of ours when both regular seasons are in full swing.
 
Maybe there are some opportunities in between seasons. Or if we are in a postion where the likes of Costa isn't getting game time for us. He could be lent to Toronto to gain extra experience. Different training styles, different atmosphere. He may only get a 5 -10 min run every second game in Toronto, but I am sure even that would be a great experience and good publicity for the Phoenix.
 
Likewise we could take on board a couple of their youngsters with the look to giving them 5 -10min runs where appropriate. Or the just experience the training and different styles.
 
It would be great exposure for the individual players. It would make them stand out even before they get on the field. Then it is up to them to play their hearts out.
 
I would stay away from the big sister club options of the Chelsea etc. We wouldn't get anything out of it.
LondonChris2007-07-17 00:34:39

If we build it, they will come...

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Stupid idea. What exacty were the advantages that the Knights received? 0.

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Yeah - Charlton weren't so bad (nothing promised nothing delivered), but do you remember the Chelsea debacle with the Kingz - we were going to get all these Chelsea reseve players on loan weren't we? pffft.
The only time I remember this kinda deal benefitting a club in this part of the world was when Northern Spirit got that kid 'Big Ben' Burgess on loan from Blackburn and he went on to be golden boot (I think) in the NSL that season (wonder what became of him?)
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The Kingz did get something out of the Chelsea deal. Two young players got to go and train in England with young Chelsea lads for a couple of weeks.

A dog with a bone :)

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The only possible benefits from the knights deal was that players might have seen the knights as a feeder club and been more likely to sign with knights and it got them in the news for a day.  But yes a big fat waste of time basically, better off focussing on the local market and not begging to the EPL.
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mtedenkingz wrote:
...'Big Ben' Burgess on loan from Blackburn and he went on to be golden boot (I think) in the NSL that season (wonder what became of him?)


He plays for Blackpool

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I think we should stay away from Big named clubs for the obious reason that, if a couple of our youngsters, aka, Costa, Spoonley and other up comers, were invited in on training sessions and were thought to be half decent, they would end up recruiting them.
 
Theres no benefits in it for us in the long term, Good players move on, Its the cycle of football. Not untill the A-League can be recognized as a solid cometetion and NZ internatinoal football gets their sh*t together (players, but thats not our fault we have no quality) will people start to look at NZ seriously, and thats IF we do any good in the AL.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
get in touch with PAOK in greece they need money and they'll have players who will PAY to play for us as they are too scared of their fans hahahahahahahahaha
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