Wellington Phoenix Men

Over Zealous

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Over Zealous
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
To me it simply looked like all these strikes on goal were more or less over eager snap shots where in one case Ferrante trying to knock the netting into The Fever Zone.
 
I find the players look tooo hurried or rushed when they get into scoring positions in the Penalty Box,trying to be "The Money Man"...ie Logan Swan-Warriors v Parramatta (excuse the League analogy)
 
I think it's a case of over zealousness & no cool heads where required.
 
Unfortunately,it is only the trained eye which can see The Phoenix aren't The Kingz/ Knights but the average punter in the street only believes what he sees on the league table/results
Tunnelrat2007-09-09 19:36:39
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Well said
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The Phoenix are far better than the Kingz/Knights  the results will come and the fans/supporters with "the trained eye" can see that,  just hope the results come sooner rather than later
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I agree, there were alot of chances in the game that were blown because they rushed it.
 
Daniel had one where he broke into the box and fired straight away without taking his time to look at all his options, becoz if he did he could ave easily ave passed it across goal to an open Smeltz.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Poosibly too much emphasis last week placed on Defence?......Dooop !!
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
By The way nestling you have an admirer for Life (Re:Everton)
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tunnelrat wrote:
Poosibly too much emphasis last week placed on Defence?......Dooop !!


Playing one striker in a home match wasn't a clever idea. Smeltz is playing ok but is currently short of a strike partner.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Screw the result. Phoenix looked damn good and I was proud to support them. They deserved to win from their first half. Phoenix obviously flagged by the end of the game, but Newcastle were lucky to win from that random deflection.
Fink2007-09-09 19:48:56
Like a chocoholic but for booze

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Fink wrote:
Screw the result. Phoenix looked damn good and I was proud to support them. They deserved to win from their first half. Phoenix obviously flagged by the end of the game, but Newcastle were lucky to win from that random deflection.


Damn right. The first two games Phoenix took a while to get into the game; this time they were into it from the go but getting tired by the 60th minute. Still, it was a great game despite the result. The results will come.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Well we looked GREAT in the 1st half BUT we kept trying to walk the ball into the goal we wouldn't shoot, we pitter patterd around for half and hour making a small decision. AND then in the second half we did shoot we had quite a few shots but none of the stuck. Almost every single one went over the top. Their was one shot i remember quite vividly where their goaly was down and the goal was open and whoever the player was punished the ball and it went straight over the top.

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our defence was sweet - hardly any long balls, composed, solid
Cosimo2007-09-09 21:35:42
I like tautologies because I like them.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
yep, had the chances, apart from a great Mossy double save in the first half, and their free kick, we were all over them, defence very composed
 
it'll come!!!
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Cosimo wrote:

their defence was sweet - hardly any long balls, composed, solid


Yep, now Ricki has that sorted he can work his way up the field to the strikers!!

How good is Lochhead eh? Has been great so far. Christie looked quite comfortable too and O'Dor was good in his normal position. Dodd is solid but he's a bit firey for me. Looks like he's having an aneurysm most of the time.
valeo2007-09-09 21:15:34

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
After watching every Knights game there ever was.. and all the Phoenix games to date..... The Phoenix are no knights. We played beautiful footy at times and a pleasure to watch. We dominated. Unlike the Knights, where on the rare occassion we did win it was through counter-attack
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Cosimo wrote:

our defence was sweet - hardly any long balls, composed, solid


I was really impressed with our defence today aswell. It wasn't the shambles that was last friday (shivers to himself while thinking of what happened at right back in that first half...brrrr).
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Tunnelrat wrote:
 
Unfortunately,it is only the trained eye which can see The Phoenix aren't The Kingz/ Knights but the average punter in the street only believes what he sees on the league table/results


Dont worry too much.. I am a 'average punter on the street" and I can see that the 'nix are different to the kingz/knights.

sad as it may be, it helps that they aren't from AKL. Massive anti akl feeling in nz. Not to mention you always go the feeling akl didnt give a monkeys toss about the kingz.

Wellington will support them, and seeing that, football fans around the country are more likley to support them too.



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Jake_144 wrote:
Their was one shot i remember quite vividly where their goaly was down and the goal was open and whoever the player was punished the ball and it went straight over the top.


Ferrante.  I almost cried.

But yes, overall we looked a lot better for the entire game than the previous two, and a lot better than our opposition. Such a shame that the finishing let us down - seems like something different every week is letting us down.
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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Haha .... all good people. Amazing to see comments comparing the 'Nix to the Knights/Kingz when it was the Jets that did a classic smash and grab ala the Knightz!

What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I've seen parts of two Knights matches and none of the Kingz, so I have no basis to compare :P All that matters to me is that us Wellingtonians have a team and I'm gonna do my best to support it, and will be there win or loss (but hopefully mostly the wins!).

Now hopefully enough average punters will be wise enough to see that we're NOT Auckland's teams - we're an expansion franchise, not a relocation. These early results are not necessarily indicitive of our final form.
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Fink wrote:
Screw the result. Phoenix looked damn good and I was proud to support them. They deserved to win from their first half. Phoenix obviously flagged by the end of the game, but Newcastle were lucky to win from that random deflection.
 
No.
 
Dont screw the result...
 
and DESERVING to win isnt good enough in thie league...
 
Results are why we are here, we want to contest for the title, i dont want to be too harsh as its only our 3rd game but if we dont finish off chances against the jets at home we will have no chance to call our selves a mid table team.
 
All the best to our boys, hopfullt they step it up against sydney and take the three points back home to the capital with them.
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i couldnt believe some of those shots....was a bit dissapointed with Dodds (?) headed attempt, he did bloody well to get there, and it looked like it had a bit of force behind it, but dang that went flying....as for Ferrantes shot... gings2007-09-10 00:18:06


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No.
 
Dont screw the result...
 
and DESERVING to win isnt good enough in thie league...
 
Results are why we are here, we want to contest for the title, i dont want to be too harsh as its only our 3rd game but if we dont finish off chances against the jets at home we will have no chance to call our selves a mid table team.
 
All the best to our boys, hopfullt they step it up against sydney and take the three points back home to the capital with them.

Results are not why I am here. It goes without saying that wins would be great. Of course. But we didn't win, and may not win in future. I'm not going to get cut up about things over which I have virtually no control. I take consolation from the general quality of football I saw and, despite the loss, I loved the game.
Like a chocoholic but for booze

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over 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The unfortunate thing with this club is they need both results and attractive football to be played.

Because of failures past, to your average joe blow that doesn't follow too closely, if they lose, they get referred to as typical kingz/knights. Last night they lost but they played good solid football. Your average joe blow wouldn't know that and hence we see the odd "Knights in disguise" post.

Now if they win and win ugly, your average joe blow turns up to watch and says  "This football game is rubbish/boring" so in essence, you can't win.

Now I know that all this sounds negative but to a team that needs supporters, they have to get the entire model right. Because this backwards little country of ours is a rugby nation, the product has to be attractive and get results for it to compete. Its why the Warriors are on a high right now because they have been winning and playing well. Its all over talk back radio about how bloody boring rugby is and the usual "Yeah the All Blacks won but it was tough to watch"

I want to see good football, and I am from this team. To get the average joe blow onside, unfortunately we need results as well.
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