Phoenix Football Fund

If any TV rights over here paid them more than chump change then that would make sense.

Reading the latest posts makes me sad, they aren't trying to fleece extra money out of current club members, they are giving kiwis NZ wide a chance to throw a few bucks in if they want to.  If they were fleecing the current members they would put the ticket prices up.

No angst, just commentary and observation on the situation. I believe the forum is there for that i.e. to air one's views?  

Egads NP.  Stout fellow that you are I must in this instance, proffer my services as second to the esteemed whatever, who though I know not in corporeal or indeed in literal form, nevertheless has espoused a position of principles that I find myself more closely aligned to my own.

I will take no pleasure in informing your family of the sad and inevitable outcome of such contest, and as an alternative I would strongly urge your honourable self and the upstanding whatever to engage in the less brutal, but no less noble contest of cock fighting. Much less harmful and mostly able to be treated at a hospital post duel.

I have the pleasure to remain

Your humble and obediant servant

Junior82

I stopped being salty about it as now I see it as similar to kickstarter.

If you want to put in some money you can to help them.

If you want to put in 100 bucks then buy a jersey or a nix six.  If you want to put in 200 bucks buy a season pass.

So if you want tangible rewards there are those options.  If you just want to pitch in a few bucks you can.   but they will only take the money when the team actually wins.

While I know it's not EXACTLY like kickstarter in that they aren't bring kick-started, it seems like a good analogy.

Kickstarters also are trying to make money, and if you only chip in a couple of bucks then you don't get any reward except knowing you did your best to help.

I reckon the $100 tier should allow a business to put up a sign saying "proud supporters of the Phoenix" or something, would probably help get some moneys.

My problem was with the way it was framed - it seemed kind of slapped together and the press release was poorly written which gave the whole thing an air of desperation which I'm sure wasn't intended.

Having had a bit of a think about it, I still feel it could have been done a bit differently. As it is, the money is just going into a black hole effectively - I assume it's absorbed into operating costs for the organisation as a whole. I think it would have been better to do it for a specific aspect of the club's operations: the WeeNix for instance, and to keep a running total of the amount raised. The net result is the same but I think people feel more connected and thus more willing to contribute if they know exactly where the cash is going. Alternatively, they could separate out the two streams - collect cash from fans for the WeeNix, and collect cash from corporate sponsors for say the training facilities, or something like that.

Overall, it's not a bad idea, but it could have been done a lot better.

IMO.

Completely agree ConanTroutman.

I was salty but turned, if they had done something like you said and worded and announced it better there would have been no salt.

Good idea, badly executed. I put some money in to be in the loop. The Thank You! email I got back said Football Fun instead of Fund.

Nothing wrong withe general idea some more incentives would be nice. To make it really good and exciting you spend more on website and videos than you actually get from the money.

Next year version will be better, they have to start somewhere, they learn and iterate.

Only one more sleep until real life begins but strong in this forum is the angst.

In terms of my dosh I'm with Hatter:  

• Got the season pass (club)
• A small amount to fever dreams (YF)
• Will get the Shortland Street tees (YF)
• Nephew coming over from the US in Jan - will be taking him to the RoF and getting him some (revolting) Nix gear or maybe a nice Nix hoodie (club)

So these are all tangible investments in the club (directly or indirectly)

Now, as whatever's second I need to go and warm up my cock fighting skills before dawn...

which is great. They're not belittling that investment by offering another way for people to give to the club. 

I didn't imply anything about the owners belittling those investment options.

I demand a duel.

Yay! I'm loving all the duels lately. Culls the herd.

Dont think the money is going into a black hole its apparently 100% going to be used by Ernie for what they termed high performance i think.The idea was that it can be used by Ernie on things related to the top team.May have it wrong.

On that basis they are getting even more money out of me. Buggered if i know how im going to hide this if we go on a winning streak.

You'll need a tray

It's just a cheap grab for money with NOTHING TANGIBLE to show for it.  If it was buying shears or a small percentage of the club like teams such as Exeter City FC have done then fair enough.  Currently it's money for nothing. 

Knaves and scallywags the lot of you!

I turned up at dawn with my cock suitably prepared, but your absences made for a disappointing and one-sided contest.

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Gamefication. For each win you spend forward something the club needs. And with each win you come closer to the goal. Example I would sponsor a right boot for a young player and for each win I they get a few dollars, at the end of the season you may fell short and get the chance to donate the outstanding dollars and have the chance to win the big prize.

There are many things they can 'sell'. You may sponsor a wee Nix kids education, Siggy motivation talk for your company, dinner with Lia for your wife or a training session with Ernie for your local club. It's all about open up a bit and let people understand for what they need the money put a price on it.

How much for a Nix club sandwich? *looks at c diddy*

"All funds will be re-invested in to the continued growth of the Club's elite football programme, helping our players and coaches develop a sustainable competitive advantage in areas such as sports science technology, data analysis systems, medical support, and world-class equipment and facilities."

The players managed to react to the Fund disquiet by not winning. That's a noble effort.

I think they have made a bit of a mistake arranging to get paid nought for losing.

Well they can spend it on better dugouts - bigger, with those expensive racing car seats. cause the current ones look so old  and cheap. 

Hows the fund doing ?

Take a look at the membership options here Crows

Last trip to Melbourne I was talking (Not ease dropping) to a fan of an AFL club who had just found out he was going to be a father.

He was returning from buying a membership for this little one so they get an advantage when it comes to get a seat in their stadium.

He beleive they over sold seated memberships by between 20-30%

Football Fund has nothing on them.

Oversold memverships as in there are less seats than there are people with tickets to those seats?  Surely that only works if they use GA.

Airlines and hotels do it all the time. Why not sports clubs.

Money for Nothing and your 'Nix for a fee 
I want my 'Nix TV! 
:-)

cough up you tight bastards.

Take me $5 you champions

I treat these great victories as merely pay back for all the shocking losses I have endured as a loyal fan.

When our win loss ratio is positive then I will consider contributing.

I am however paying for SKY TV, so that is helping to keep the Phoenix in the league apparently

Or not apparently :(

Hows the fund going?

LOL

More than happy to place more into the fund.

Wait, I have to start paying into this again...

Was it all spent on donuts at the end of season bash?