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Phoenix in the W-League

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Phoenix in the W-League



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http:///www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/5130345/Capital-teams-seek-way-out-of-the-doldrums


"Football is described as a "tiger that hasn't been tamed" and an approach to New Zealand Football will be made to support a Phoenix youth team and a Wellington-based women's team playing in Australia's W-League.

"NZF could prepare their Olympics campaign through a W-League team," Dow said.

"Instead of going away to tournaments, build the women's game with money you're going to spend anyway.""


The premise is that the W-League team would be a quasi-national team paid for by NZF and just carrying the Phoenix name.


Sounds like a nice idea in principle but can't see FFA wanting this at all.

Wibblebutt2011-06-12 14:07:27



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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Why wouldn't they want it? They have always been very keen to have an NZ team in the A-League, so why not the W-League? It would certainly give the league many more followers here if there was an NZ team.

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Wibblebutt wrote:

http:///www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/5130345/Capital-teams-seek-way-out-of-the-doldrums


"Football is described as a "tiger that hasn't been tamed" and an approach to New Zealand Football will be made to support a Phoenix youth team and a Wellington-based women's team playing in Australia's W-League.

"NZF could prepare their Olympics campaign through a W-League team," Dow said.

"Instead of going away to tournaments, build the women's game with money you're going to spend anyway.""


The premise is that the W-League team would be a quasi-national team paid for by NZF and just carrying the Phoenix name.


Sounds like a nice idea in principle but can't see FFA wanting this at all.

 
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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
patrick478 wrote:
Why wouldn't they want it? They have always been very keen to have an NZ team in the A-League, so why not the W-League? It would certainly give the league many more followers here if there was an NZ team.


If the FFA don't have to pay for it they won't have an issue.  However with the 'Whole of Football' plan and other initiatives plus the 'Phoenix are a private club' mantra I'd be stunned if NZF would want to fund it, let alone be able to justify funding it.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hard News wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
Why wouldn't they want it? They have always been very keen to have an NZ team in the A-League, so why not the W-League? It would certainly give the league many more followers here if there was an NZ team.


If the FFA don't have to pay for it they won't have an issue.  However with the 'Whole of Football' plan and other initiatives plus the 'Phoenix are a private club' mantra I'd be stunned if NZF would want to fund it, let alone be able to justify funding it.
 
To be perfectly honest, I would much rather have a youth team in the australian compettition to grow what we already have in our A League team rather than bring in something which doesnt improve what we already have
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tpmyhill wrote:
Hard News wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
Why wouldn't they want it? They have always been very keen to have an NZ team in the A-League, so why not the W-League? It would certainly give the league many more followers here if there was an NZ team.
If the FFA don't have to pay for it they won't have an issue.� However with the 'Whole of Football' plan and other initiatives plus the 'Phoenix are a private club' mantra I'd be stunned if NZF would want to fund it, let alone be able to justify funding it.



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To be perfectly honest, I would much rather have a youth team in the australian compettition to grow what we already have in our A League team rather than bring in something which doesnt improve what we already have


I think you will find that it would improve the women's game here. Yes, our A-League club is a men's club, but that shouldn't mean that we completely shun the women.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Womens football is rubbish, let's be honest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
patrick478 wrote:
Why wouldn't they want it? They have always been very keen to have an NZ team in the A-League, so why not the W-League? It would certainly give the league many more followers here if there was an NZ team.


My thoughts are that it wouldn't add much to the W-League. I mean there's not going to be any financial gain for the FFA, and they wouldn't be very keen on a team completely made up of New Zealanders.

Plus what would the ramifications be on player transfer rules, for the women who play for local clubs during the rest of the season?



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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Oh so this is what they mean by basing the Phoenix out of Auckland...
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Steve-O wrote:


Womens football is rubbish, let's be honest.


Someone's been to Paul Henry school .

"Phoenix till they lose"

Posting 97% bollox, 8% lies and 3.658% genuine opinion. 

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Steve-O wrote:
Womens football is rubbish, let's be honest.


Of course it's rubbish if chauvinistic losers refuse to fund it properly. Also, screw you. Nix for W-League, great idea.
Doloras2011-06-12 14:39:21

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Doloras wrote:


Steve-O wrote:


Womens football is rubbish, let's be honest.
Of course it's rubbish if chauvinistic losers refuse to fund it properly. Also, screw you. Nix for W-League, great idea.



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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Steve-O wrote:
Womens football is rubbish, let's be honest.
Yeah and Rugby is a real mans game.Not like those soccer fags.First  the Halbergs &  now this.Jesus H Christ

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Hmmm. Having read that article fully, is John Morrison trying to position himself as "the man who saved the Nix"?

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Doloras wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Womens football is rubbish, let's be honest.


Of course it's rubbish if chauvinistic losers refuse to fund it properly. Also, screw you. Nix for W-League, great idea.
 
Why fund something that will never make money? It's hard enough for the men's game to make money.
 
Not chauvanistic, just find watching women's football to be rubbish, personal opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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hamezilla wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Womens football is rubbish, let's be honest.
Yeah and Rugby is a real mans game.Not like those soccer fags.First  the Halbergs &  now this.Jesus H Christ
No idea what your blasphemous point is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Steve-O wrote:
Why fund something that will never make money?[/quote]

That's good coming from an A-League fan.

[quote]Not chauvanistic, just find watching women's football to be rubbish, personal opinion.


The question is not what you personally enjoy watching, it's what's good for the game as a whole. I'm sure that if the Football Ferns lift the Women's World Cup, you would be jumping straight on the bandwagon. So let's fund a W-League team which could help our women be less rubbish, like the Nix have done for the senior men.

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Quite enjoyed watching the Womens World Cup, actually. They dived a hell of a lot less than the men.

a.haak

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Doloras wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Why fund something that will never make money?[/quote]

That's good coming from an A-League fan.

[quote]Not chauvanistic, just find watching women's football to be rubbish, personal opinion.


The question is not what you personally enjoy watching, it's what's good for the game as a whole. I'm sure that if the Football Ferns lift the Women's World Cup, you would be jumping straight on the bandwagon. So let's fund a W-League team which could help our women be less rubbish, like the Nix have done for the senior men.
 
I honestly wouldn't be on that bandwagon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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Doloras wrote:
Steve-O wrote:
Why fund something that will never make money?


That's good coming from an A-League fan.
 
That's exactly my point though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_B5CzbTJo - Caceres winning penalty v Perth - footage from the Fever Zone

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almost 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The traditional problem with youf and wimmens teams for the nix is that you're suddenly adding huge expense for the existing teams - now having to fly to New Zealand. (and flying these teams away every second game...)

And i disagree with Blatter's view of what womens football should be like.

It can be good.
zonknz2011-06-12 19:36:39
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I hope they didnt spend a lot of money commissioning that report.
Whilst I would love to see a NZ team in W-league, the costs would be massive and the league isn't even that good. I cant see NZF stumping up half a million a year or whatever.

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