Phoenix Ownership - Rob says FTFFA

I was only joking mate!

If someone can articulate your desires,

I'll give you credence.

It's sensitive times, Newcastle, not joking or my balls my word time

can other clubs approach players from December some time? Better have a new licence of some sort in place by then

The sooner the better - if 4 years is on the table we have to take it.

The way the FFA is going there'll be another Crawford report and the board will be arsenaled... here's hoping - it wouldn't be the first time!

It can take up till 4 to 6 months or even a year to have the application approved for the extension licence. I know this as Welnix came out before and said so last year (When they hoped for a 10 year licence).

I think next weeks meeting with the fans will be just piss blowing in the wind.

The difference is that ten years was a new negotiation but the provision for four years is apparently in the current one.

Can I ask the angstbuckets - if you really think we're doomed, why are you still here?

To be fair, just because you think the owners might pull out (or the FFA might force the issue) doesn't mean you don't support the team.  

I think we all do, but it would be nice to have some certainty about what is happening in the immediate future.  It sounds like the Welnix via their membership evening and interviews next week will provide their thoughts on matters.

I think we really need something out in the public, but I agree.

To be fair, all signs point to doom.

That really is pretty rich coming from someone who has been pretty angsty in the past. Also we like you have as much right to be here till the end or hopefully another 10 years. Should be an interesting meeting Wednesday nite.

Because there are a few females online as part of the fever and the hundreds of guys here think they may have a chance of getting lucky

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blog/2015/11/04/logistics-team-southern-sydney

Article about the issues with a south Sydney team. Basically says that only a Gong-based club would work, but of course that's not what has been bandied about. A Sutherland team isn't a great idea.

To be fair, I didn't put my balls on it so you should have known all along that it wouldn't eventuate ;)

To release some angst. I'm a pretty chill person but that doesn't make me optimistic about my club still existing when I move back to Wellington. Consider the increased presence on these forums the equivalent of visiting a dying friend in hospital.

I'd take a Jason Hicks or a Tyler Boyd as well...

Does it seem like NZF is hoping the ASBP is going to become a pro-competition if it is televised?

A Lia? A Powell?

If it worked even a Paladino, mate!!

Extra time you say?

When I see caviar and champagne I will know it's in the bag :-b

What are you getting at?

Are you saying that if people think the club is fudgeed they should give up?

I think the club is fudgeed but I'll be at the last game, whether that's in 6 months, 4 years or 10, or longer because I love my club irrespective of how gloom it may look.  are you not a fan of that attitude or something?

Well, they shouldn't be hanging around here trying to drag down those of us who are still fighting, anyway. Giving up is catching.

Yea we don't need the supporters who think the club might be fudgeed.  We will fill the stadium on our own right?  Right guys? Guys............

Depends on what you mean by giving up of course.  If people are posting here depressed about what they think might happen but buy a membership or go to games, or donate to the Nix givealittle (or all 3) then they are good to me.

Some understandably pessimistic comments aside there is plenty of tangible proof that people aren't just giving up. Frankly I am gobsmacked that since it was announced we were basically being chucked out of the league some 400-odd people have gone and paid for memberships AND $10k has been donated for a membership scheme. Under the circumstances his is illogical, crazy even. 

Every time I feel gloomy (as I do today) about this whole fudgeed up affair I think about those figures and realise how much we really love this club and how much we are willing to make stupid, irrational, expensive gestures to help keep it alive. It seems very unlikely but if Welnix are vacillating over their final decision then maybe, just maybe our example will stir a similar determination in them to take a risk, fight to keep the Phoenix alive and press on into a better and brighter future.

Even the most die hard fans that think we are fudgeed and express so on here are probably doing it because they care, they are not getting off on seeing the club and its fans screwed over by a senile old Twit and some smart arse squatter from the NRL.

Really trying to drag people down, you seem to be making some pretty big assumptions from what people are posting. We have every right to be here some of us have been here from the start and frankly i find some of your comments down right bloody insulting. Im as entitled as everyone else to express my thoughts on these forums it certainly dosnt mean im any less passionate than anyone else. 

We are all passion\ate here because we care about the Nix. This may mean telling other people off. Regardless of whether they think the sky has fallen and the club has already all gone to hell in a handbasket (as some people pretty much said), or if they think that after all there will be a licence extension and meaningful path forward for the club (and that for example is my optimistic view). I think we are all big enough to allow others to express their view, even if their idea stinks.

so are we hangn out at nzfc grounds or givin up?

Welnix chairman calls on NZ Football to show tangible support for Phoenix

That's what I wanted to hear!

We love you Wellnix we do, we love you Wellnix we do....

Ok so Tim Brown haters and those who didn't think a significant duty of care lay with NZ football, what say you in response to the bosses comments?

Who is the squatter here? Didn't see Rob mentioning $1000,000 being pumped into the Nix by NZ football.

The only mention of spending recently has been $170,000 by NZ football into a frivolous court case.

First of all this IS encouraging to hear that Welnix are still thinking about long-term investment in Wgtn (and the club).

BUT this still does not nullify:

• FFA are eager to kick us out of the A-League (despite all the opposition from within the league I can't see them softening their stance)
• There is still a lack of appreciation and perhaps an ability to invest further in the Nix from NZF.

So, carry on with the angsting.

You big ol' grumpy grumps.

But...

New Zealand head into next Friday's friendly against Oman in Muscat having played just four internationals over the past 12 months...

The biggest hurdle to getting the national side together on a regular basis is funding, an issue Martin says he is trying to address with various stakeholders, including Sport New Zealand.

But he insists it is no overnight fix.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/domestic/73746124/nz-football-chief-andy-martin-determined-to-rebuild-international-programme

Where do the biggest percentage of NZF players train and play on the most regular basis?   Would 60% (Male players only at this stage) of them in the Welnix program not influence where the budget should go? 

If NZF were seen to be backing Welnix to a substantial degree that could give the Okkers more ammo for dumping the Nix (with their world view being the way it is).