Seriously Id trust a baby with a razor before Id trust the self serving , glory hunting , useless , incompetent jobsworths in that ( NZF ) lot , and Im mellow as, me....
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Seriously Id trust a baby with a razor before Id trust the self serving , glory hunting , useless , incompetent jobsworths in that ( NZF ) lot , and Im mellow as, me....
You - and others - never had this problem when it was the Knights and the Kingz, but now it's in Wellington it's killing the game ? The Auckland coverage of the NZFC is no better or worse now than it's ever been under any of the Australian sides influence. It's not better or worse than when there were other nationa leagues. So it's odd that your problem comes out now the team is in Wellington, or more likely now it's not a flop and the articles aren't treating it as a long running joke.
Luckily the addition of a Phoenix side in the NZFC kills two birds with one stone doesn't it? The NZFC gets to piggy-bag on the Phoenix coverage when they come to town, and the Phoenix get to develop a pathway for New Zealand players. It's fantastic that the concept gets your support.
No NZFC in first years , that I can recall but dont let facts impede a good rant...I never do...
I think we all agree the best option would be for us to be treated like the other A league teams and have a youth team playing.... we need to think alternatives as this may not happen (not to say we can't try but it fell short last attempt)
So what is best for game in NZ?
1: We have the biggest junior winter sport playing numbers - we need to ensure those kids continue into senior levels.
2: We are probably a slightly distant 3rd in respect NZ popularity - we need to build success to increase popularity and increase the sponsorship money coming into the game.
How do we get more $$ of sponsorship money (which will occur at all levels ie junior, NZFC teams, and rep level) - more media coverage to entice the sponsors who want return for their sponsorship.
We need to lift the profile - get more people engaged in the game - lift the standard - the NZFC overlaps the A league so once the A league finishes I would suggest if people had been watching when they played against the Nix reserves they may continue to do so after the nix A league finished.
Worst case nothing happens (assume we can overcome the issues Smithy notes re US unis, and access to charity funds) but likely the profile will go up across all of NZ - everyone becomes a winner.
A lot of discussion suggests we are all getting upset because it will reduce the amount of money being divied up to respective NZFC clubs - I reckon it will grow the amount of money being available to be divied up!!!
The way it seems to be going, if some change does not occur then there will not be a NZFC anyway and then no Club champs anway or, we go and get thrashed because we don't have a comp that improves us and then FIFA stops us going - supposedly was on the cards till the last results went well (well done Auckland!!)
You'd need to get people with money who have a passion for the game on board to help sponsor teams/players/divisions. I'd love to do so if I had the spare dosh. Can i borrow a tenner?
If someone fronted with the cash i'd like to see what happens, I think it all comes back to the dollar bill y'all
Have you been banned ? No.
Your threads were locked because you had broken forum rules, as was - civilly - explained. We have rules because it is different running a forum with 5000 members and hundreds of posters and a forum with 30 members and ten posters.
If you were from another A-League club you would have been banned by now.
Hard News2010-02-16 20:10:30
who does?
who does?
I think we all agree the best option would be for us to be treated like the other A league teams and have a youth team playing.... we need to think alternatives as this may not happen (not to say we can't try but it fell short last attempt)
So what is best for game in NZ?
1: We have the biggest junior winter sport playing numbers - we need to ensure those kids continue into senior levels.
2: We are probably a slightly distant 3rd in respect NZ popularity - we need to build success to increase popularity and increase the sponsorship money coming into the game.
How do we get more $$ of sponsorship money (which will occur at all levels ie junior, NZFC teams, and rep level) - more media coverage to entice the sponsors who want return for their sponsorship.
We need to lift the profile - get more people engaged in the game - lift the standard - the NZFC overlaps the A league so once the A league finishes I would suggest if people had been watching when they played against the Nix reserves they may continue to do so after the nix A league finished.
Worst case nothing happens (assume we can overcome the issues Smithy notes re US unis, and access to charity funds) but likely the profile will go up across all of NZ - everyone becomes a winner.
A lot of discussion suggests we are all getting upset because it will reduce the amount of money being divied up to respective NZFC clubs - I reckon it will grow the amount of money being available to be divied up!!!
The way it seems to be going, if some change does not occur then there will not be a NZFC anyway and then no Club champs anway or, we go and get thrashed because we don't have a comp that improves us and then FIFA stops us going - supposedly was on the cards till the last results went well (well done Auckland!!)
take this rant to the NZFC thread. It is not the Phoenixs fault if the NZFC is crap. Bluemagic commenting on football in Wellington is ridiculous. He has obviously never been here and doesnt have a clue about what has driven TDub crowds. Your comment about Buffon, an Aklder is valid if he has turned his back on City for the Nix (although the A-League team was up there before) - but perhaps it is just cos he's sick of sharing the stands with 'football fans' like you and Happy Ted?
Come on. The problems with the NZFC run way, way deeper than that, and I'm sure you're well aware of it. While I agree that the crowd we got for TWs on Sunday was pitiful, that needs to be tempered with the fact that the team has simply not been performing at home this season. And what the Phoenix have to do with declining fortunes of clubs outside of Wellington is beyond me. You seem to be one of the three people in the world who see a causal link there.
And by the way, Reddy's gone at the end of the season, so Paston will get plenty of game time.
I think we all agree the best option would be for us to be treated like the other A league teams and have a youth team playing.... we need to think alternatives as this may not happen (not to say we can't try but it fell short last attempt)
So what is best for game in NZ?
1: We have the biggest junior winter sport playing numbers - we need to ensure those kids continue into senior levels.
More pics of Ifill's, Lochhead's and Galeckovic's missuses on the football recruitment posters...
I think they really, really need to give the FFA a kick in the backside. Point out to the them why a youth side is necessary and then tell them all of the significant hurdles in having one in the NZFC. That or Terry just needs to finance it but we can't ask much more of him can we? Maybe he does need another man with money in alongside him - though I seem to recall him saying he wants to be the sole owner. Though if we did get a squad in the Australian competition we would surely not play at Westpac Stadium and then we'd save a fair amount of dosh.
It'll be like a mid-winter game at Karori for the finals.
HN, we worked out on Monday night that there were close to 30,000 people on the pitch along during the concert.
You have 30,000 people on the pitch at 3 hours per night at 3 shows at Etihad, and that equals to me a f..ked pitch.
Melbourne TV reported yesterday that 'staff at Etihad were working frantically to get the surface ready for Thursday night after the recent AC/DC concerts at the stadium. Then some dude from the stadium said 'we'll have it safe for the Victory'..."
In saying all that, ACDC were OK, but not as top notch as I thought, Angus Young makes that band tick.
Now I will throw a deliberate comment here! I raised elsewhere the idea of Oceania (or NZ) if it wishes joining CONCACAF. It's left field, but may solve the confederational issues for all.
If NZ and the US work so well in soccer terms, what is stopping NZ (and Oceania) getting US Soccer Federation support for a move to CONCACAF?
It's an option.
Boys, I don't want to harp on (and I don't want to raise this after tonight, as I've raised it elsewhere on this website), BUT look at this article which I found originally in the Melbourne Herald Sun newspaper today, it talks about NZ cricket assisting US cricket. With what I've read about on here about a lot of NZ blokes going to US colleges for sport and all that, there if there are strong NZ/US sporting ties, I again ask - What's stopping NZ from getting US assistance to join CONCACAF?
Australia had Japan's support when it went to Asia, and also a lot of these 'sporting alliances' have come off with Australia since it joined Asia.
I don't see why NZ (or greater Oceania) for that matter should not look into this, at least at a feasibility study level.
Rant over, I'll go back to my little hut now!
http://cricket.yahoo.com/cricket/news/article?id=item/2.0/-/story/cricket.ani.com/new-zealand-poised-play-international-cricket-us-20100213/
diego's son2010-02-17 23:06:19
I think they really, really need to give the FFA a kick in the backside. Point out to the them why a youth side is necessary and then tell them all of the significant hurdles in having one in the NZFC. That or Terry just needs to finance it but we can't ask much more of him can we? Maybe he does need another man with money in alongside him - though I seem to recall him saying he wants to be the sole owner. Though if we did get a squad in the Australian competition we would surely not play at Westpac Stadium and then we'd save a fair amount of dosh.
At one point the idea of basing a youth team in Canberra was mooted, before AIS got a team. Bluetragic would be horrified but what chance a youth team based somewhere in Australia with a combination of NZ and Australian players? Would need to be affiliated with some sort of academy I guess, besides AIS is there anything else to link with?
I think they really, really need to give the FFA a kick in the backside. Point out to the them why a youth side is necessary and then tell them all of the significant hurdles in having one in the NZFC. That or Terry just needs to finance it but we can't ask much more of him can we? Maybe he does need another man with money in alongside him - though I seem to recall him saying he wants to be the sole owner. Though if we did get a squad in the Australian competition we would surely not play at Westpac Stadium and then we'd save a fair amount of dosh.
who does?
take this rant to the NZFC thread. It is not the Phoenixs fault if the NZFC is crap. Bluemagic commenting on football in Wellington is ridiculous. He has obviously never been here and doesnt have a clue about what has driven TDub crowds. Your comment about Buffon, an Aklder is valid if he has turned his back on City for the Nix (although the A-League team was up there before) - but perhaps it is just cos he's sick of sharing the stands with 'football fans' like you and Happy Ted?
*Wishful thinking, yes, but worth a shot.
loyalgunner2010-02-18 13:54:32
*Wishful thinking, yes, but worth a shot.
I take it you mean write a letter about our Reserves, as opposed to writing "Dear FFA, our National League is sh*thouse, nobody watches it and the ACFC supporters are blaming the 'Nix for it. Can you help"
who does?
They are honorary Kiwis of course
*Wishful thinking, yes, but worth a shot.
I take it you mean write a letter about our Reserves, as opposed to writing "Dear FFA, our National League is sh*thouse, nobody watches it and the ACFC supporters are blaming the 'Nix for it. Can you help"
I did indeed mean youth team. However, if you think asking them to improve our NZFC is worth a go, Jag, then I reckon we should team up and pen a very persuasive letter.
That's the best way to put it. One of the betetr ways I've heard of late. And as for writing to the FFA, I'm sure Tony P has done this before.
Thanks for letting me have my say, I've appreciated it. Good luck against Perth. In fact win the A league then give the FFA a good kicking for not playing fair.
Thanks for letting me have my say, I've appreciated it. Good luck against Perth. In fact win the A league then give the FFA a good kicking for not playing fair.
hmmmmm. I'll shut up.
What is the deal with banners at Westpac stadiums and other A-League venues? Perhaps make a couple of banners "Youth team please FFA" and one directed towards the AFC perhaps? If it is public it might raise it in the media. Perhaps also a good idea to get Tony P's response first though in case it would be counter productive.
I think there's one other reason why we should look to the Aussie NYL for a reserve team, and I won't be popular for saying this (especially given my national origins) - our squad needs more Aussies.