Huawei Wellington United Phoenix Academy Football School of Excellence - WeeNix

Or is NZF still broke even tho ACFC did so well and filled everyones wallets?

See what you have done there is state that your knitting circle is the pre-eminent view among NZFC supporters when it's not even the pre-eminent view of many Auckland fans.  There are just as many City fans on these forums that travel to support the Phoenix and have no issues with the impact on the NZFC.

You - and others - never had this problem when it was the Knights and the Kingz, but now it's in Wellington it's killing the game ?  The Auckland coverage of the NZFC is no better or worse now than it's ever been under any of the Australian sides influence.  It's not better or worse than when there were other nationa leagues.  So it's odd that your problem comes out now the team is in Wellington, or more likely now it's not a flop and the articles aren't treating it as a long running joke.

Luckily the addition of a Phoenix side in the NZFC  kills two birds with one stone doesn't it?  The NZFC gets to piggy-bag on the Phoenix coverage when they come to town, and the Phoenix get to develop a pathway for New Zealand players.  It's fantastic that the concept gets your support.

You just dont like Australians....

who does?

Some cool and interesting raves..
I think we all agree the best option would be for us to be treated like the other A league teams and have a youth team playing.... we need to think alternatives as this may not happen (not to say we can't try but it fell short last attempt)

So what is best for game in NZ?
1: We have the biggest junior winter sport playing numbers - we need to ensure those kids continue into senior levels.
2: We are probably a slightly distant 3rd in respect NZ popularity - we need to build success to increase popularity and increase the sponsorship money coming into the game.

How do we get more $$ of sponsorship money (which will occur at all levels ie junior, NZFC teams, and rep level) - more media coverage to entice the sponsors who want return for their sponsorship.

We need to lift the profile - get more people engaged in the game - lift the standard - the NZFC overlaps the A league so once the A league finishes I would suggest if people had been watching when they played against the Nix reserves they may continue to do so after the nix A league finished.

Worst case nothing happens (assume we can overcome the issues Smithy notes re US unis, and access to charity funds) but likely the profile will go up across all of NZ - everyone becomes a winner.

A lot of discussion suggests we are all getting upset because it will reduce the amount of money being divied up to respective NZFC clubs - I reckon it will grow the amount of money being available to be divied up!!!

The way it seems to be going, if some change does not occur then there will not be a NZFC anyway and then no Club champs anway or, we go and get thrashed because we don't have a comp that improves us and then FIFA stops us going - supposedly was on the cards till the last results went well (well done Auckland!!)

Some cool and interesting raves..
I think we all agree the best option would be for us to be treated like the other A league teams and have a youth team playing.... we need to think alternatives as this may not happen (not to say we can't try but it fell short last attempt)

So what is best for game in NZ?
1: We have the biggest junior winter sport playing numbers - we need to ensure those kids continue into senior levels.

  I don't feel the need to justify myself either.

AC/DC on a pitch that's been a paddock for years anyway ?

It'll be like a mid-winter game at Karori for the finals.

We really need to get into the Australian Youth League.  When I spoke to Tony two months ago he only really mentioned getting into the NZFC.  Then again it's not like he's shearing all the info with me but I got the impression if that's all he's talking about then that's what the Phoenix will be trying to do.

I think they really, really need to give the FFA a kick in the backside.  Point out to the them why a youth side is necessary and then tell them all of the significant hurdles in having one in the NZFC.  That or Terry just needs to finance it but we can't ask much more of him can we?  Maybe he does need another man with money in alongside him - though I seem to recall him saying he wants to be the sole owner.  Though if we did get a squad in the Australian competition we would surely not play at Westpac Stadium and then we'd save a fair amount of dosh.

So... Bluemagic I take it you will be at North Harbour stadium for tonights game?

We really need to get into the Australian Youth League.  When I spoke to Tony two months ago he only really mentioned getting into the NZFC.  Then again it's not like he's shearing all the info with me but I got the impression if that's all he's talking about then that's what the Phoenix will be trying to do.

I think they really, really need to give the FFA a kick in the backside.  Point out to the them why a youth side is necessary and then tell them all of the significant hurdles in having one in the NZFC.  That or Terry just needs to finance it but we can't ask much more of him can we?  Maybe he does need another man with money in alongside him - though I seem to recall him saying he wants to be the sole owner.  Though if we did get a squad in the Australian competition we would surely not play at Westpac Stadium and then we'd save a fair amount of dosh.

who does?

take this rant to the NZFC thread. It is not the Phoenixs fault if the NZFC is crap. Bluemagic commenting on football in Wellington is ridiculous. He has obviously never been here and doesnt have a clue about what has driven TDub crowds. Your comment about Buffon, an Aklder is valid if he has turned his back on City for the Nix (although the A-League team was up there before) - but perhaps it is just cos he's sick of sharing the stands with 'football fans' like you and Happy Ted?

Is there anyone at the FFA we can write to about this?  If we all do it then something could happen*.

*Wishful thinking, yes, but worth a shot.

I take it you mean write a letter about our Reserves, as opposed to writing "Dear FFA, our National League is sh*thouse, nobody watches it  and the ACFC supporters are blaming the 'Nix for it. Can you help" 

 Thanks for letting me have my say, I've appreciated it. Good luck against Perth. In fact win the A league then give the FFA a good kicking for not playing fair.