I really do not rate this move
Let me guess...
Blah blah he coached girls football blah blah.
He has been proven to be a shark coach. See Waitakere last year.
You should consider on the odd occasion Tegal, growing up.
Huawei Wellington United Phoenix Academy Football School of Excellence - WeeNix
good thing this isn't a senior team role then.
Waitakere aren't much better this year either.
With Temple now in and Hedge demoted (anyone able to confirm this?) and Ibrom gone, do we really have the best youth coaches leading the Nix academy
Hedge is in charge of the weenix/ASBP side.
Temple is taking over at the academy at Scots college.
Ibrom was always very much the junior coach at APFA in Chch (precursor to nix academy). Brazilian Giovani Feranades was the coach all the players loved and admired - but he didn't make the move. When APFA transformed into Nix Academy Ibrom was still not given the top job - that went to (at the time) NZF's Andy Hedge and his salary was funded 50% by NZF. With Temple now in and Hedge demoted (anyone able to confirm this?) and Ibrom gone, do we really have the best youth coaches leading the Nix academy? Maybe, but plenty here will have other views. Likewise the nix academy does not have a monopoly on nz's best young players either. I think the academy is a great thing for shop window purposes but i'm just urging the more one eyed amongst us to remain objective when the nix academy spin machine cranks out its media releases.
Define "for shop window purposes"?
good thing this isn't a senior team role then.
Waitakere aren't much better this year either.
With Temple now in and Hedge demoted (anyone able to confirm this?) and Ibrom gone, do we really have the best youth coaches leading the Nix academy
Hedge is in charge of the weenix/ASBP side. Temple is taking over at the academy at Scots college.
Ah, thanks. You would have to think that any coach making his way would love the opportunity to work under Merrick, given his background. We just need some continuity and then to keep those coaches coaching kids in NZ.
Ibrom was always very much the junior coach at APFA in Chch (precursor to nix academy). Brazilian Giovani Feranades was the coach all the players loved and admired - but he didn't make the move. When APFA transformed into Nix Academy Ibrom was still not given the top job - that went to (at the time) NZF's Andy Hedge and his salary was funded 50% by NZF. With Temple now in and Hedge demoted (anyone able to confirm this?) and Ibrom gone, do we really have the best youth coaches leading the Nix academy? Maybe, but plenty here will have other views. Likewise the nix academy does not have a monopoly on nz's best young players either. I think the academy is a great thing for shop window purposes but i'm just urging the more one eyed amongst us to remain objective when the nix academy spin machine cranks out its media releases.
Define "for shop window purposes"?
Just calling it what it is- the Weenix ASBP team is an affirmative action programme that gives 16/17 year olds the chance to be seen regularly in ASBP, when otherwise they would mostly not be playing that level if Weenix did not exist. If they were playing in their home provinces Singh, Bell, Rogerson would be playing ASB Youth; Mcgarry would be in the senior Otago squad i guess. Ergo, shop window.
Just calling it what it is- the Weenix ASBP team is an affirmative action programme that gives 16/17 year olds the chance to be seen regularly in ASBP, when otherwise they would mostly not be playing that level if Weenix did not exist. If they were playing in their home provinces Singh, Bell, Rogerson would be playing ASB Youth; Mcgarry would be in the senior Otago squad i guess. Ergo, shop window.
Rogerson is a step above ASB Youth League. Suspect he wouldn't be starting for TeeDubs but he would certainly be in the squad.
Would also urge you to remember that the WeeNix placed 6th last year, ahead of both Canterbury and Southern.
Not shop window. Development.
Just calling it what it is- the Weenix ASBP team is an affirmative action programme that gives 16/17 year olds the chance to be seen regularly in ASBP, when otherwise they would mostly not be playing that level if Weenix did not exist. If they were playing in their home provinces Singh, Bell, Rogerson would be playing ASB Youth; Mcgarry would be in the senior Otago squad i guess. Ergo, shop window.
Rogerson is a step above ASB Youth League. Suspect he wouldn't be starting for TeeDubs but he would certainly be in the squad.
Would also urge you to remember that the WeeNix placed 6th last year, ahead of both Canterbury and Southern.
Not shop window. Development.
I don't think either Rogerson or McGarry would have been offered professional contracts yet if they were playing for Otago or Waitak, as neither would likely be starting first team players. So i see Wee Nix in ASBP as a shop window. I'm not disagreeing with the principle of it, per se (given teh football landscape of NZ), just trying to acknowledge that surely part of its purpose is to give young players a chance they would not have ordinarily had at this stage of their careers, developmentally and shop window wise. Weenix 6th - yeah, but even CL teams like NCR and Wests could have beaten Canterbury and Southern last season.
Leave Canterbury out of this and get back to bagging the Phoenix please.
They were better today than they were against Canterbury last week. Auckland just too professional, clinical and cynical for them. The good news is that they have probably played the two best sides in the league already and improved over those two games.
Danaskos, Fox and McGarry the first teamers in the side. Looked much more solid in the middle of the park with Tam Dimairo there.
Formation - may not accurately reflect how they lined up:
Sail (Pulled off some great saves including one from a Penalty - the decision for which looked dubious to the referees near me)
Tongue - Fox - Evans - Danaskos
Singh - Bell - Dimairo
Stevens - McGarry - Mata
Kouchaba, Cahill-Fleury and Liam Wood all got on in the second half.
How does Mata look and Singh against adults?
Heard he was moving by choice.
Bit late on this one ; Ibrom was "offered" another role in the Academy , ironically under Andy Hedge ( at the time , predating Temple's arrival) .One of those ones where strictly speaking he may not have been shown the door but...
How does Mata look and Singh against adults?
Singh is improving and probably one of the best out there, Mata struggled to get involved. First taste so will probably improve.
Ibrom was always very much the junior coach at APFA in Chch (precursor to nix academy). Brazilian Giovani Feranades was the coach all the players loved and admired - but he didn't make the move. When APFA transformed into Nix Academy Ibrom was still not given the top job - that went to (at the time) NZF's Andy Hedge and his salary was funded 50% by NZF. With Temple now in and Hedge demoted (anyone able to confirm this?) and Ibrom gone, do we really have the best youth coaches leading the Nix academy? Maybe, but plenty here will have other views. Likewise the nix academy does not have a monopoly on nz's best young players either. I think the academy is a great thing for shop window purposes but i'm just urging the more one eyed amongst us to remain objective when the nix academy spin machine cranks out its media releases.
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Head Coach AcademyWellington Phoenix Football Academy
December 2013 – October 2015 (1 year 11 months)
Andy Hedge was head coach of WeeNix ASB team
WeeNix lost 1-0 to Southern United
WeeNix lost 1-0 to Southern United
SACK WHOEVER THE COACH IS
Wee Nixer Ben Stroud off to play college soccer in USA.
Mata scored last night but looked slow and lazy, Sing had a couple of nice touches but cant compete physically.
McGarry came on and had an impact. Best on field was Italiano who pulled off some fine saves
Wee Nixer Ben Stroud off to play college soccer in USA.
He's had injury problems and just hasn't looked as good as Louis Evans so I'm not suprised.
I saw Stroud a few times playing for the Nix in disguise here in Wellingtons premier league. Looked like a carthorse, was very surprised he was in and around the nix environment.
As i said I only saw him a few times so maybe he just had a few bad games. All the best to him in the States
Who is the new lad playing DM? Looks like a McGarry clone.
thought this was as good a place as any to chuck this
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/the-pathway-to-new-zealand-football/
thought this was as good a place as any to chuck this
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/the-pathway-to-new-zealand-football/
thought this was as good a place as any to chuck this
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/the-pathway-to-new-zealand-football/
thought this was as good a place as any to chuck this
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/the-pathway-to-new-zealand-football/
Yikes.
So those two clowns are using Reid as an example to kids - and they think he left NZ to go to Switzerland at age 16. hmmm
thought this was as good a place as any to chuck this
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/veitch-on-sport/audio/the-pathway-to-new-zealand-football/
Yikes.
Not to mention the only reason he got a leg up in terms of his career after the fact was his family friend Murray Deaker being in a high place at the time. I often wonder how people within that company felt about that at the time.
Wow. It must do your head in worrying about how other people are perceived by others.
So those two clowns are using Reid as an example to kids - and they think he left NZ to go to Switzerland at age 16. hmmm
And they are profesional coaches for the Phoenix academy. They claim to be good mates with him, to have played against him, and they think he did his youth development in NZ before moving to Switzerland?
Anyone with even a passing interest in NZ football knows more than they do about their mate. Phoenix need to get better staff.
PS I dislike Tony Vietch as much as anyone else (as well as breaking his girlfriends back, feeling sorry for himself about it, and not being repentent he also procured references for his court case under false pretenses) but he's got a huge audience and to have these sort of muppets pushing the Phoenix and football cause doesn't help our case.
Typical response JV. He's a women beater, you advocating that?
Typical response JV. He's a women beater, you advocating that?
Yeah totally - you absolutely read the words 'woman beaters are cool' in my response...... (that is sarcasm just in case you were unsure)
The implication I was making was do you get your knickers in a twist about every single woman beater in the world and crusade individually against each and every single one of them? You seem to make it rather personal against him or is it just cause its Veitch and he has rubbed you up the wrong way at some point?
Fact of life sonny is that their are assholes everywhere in places we think they should not be. The sooner you worry about your own backyard and being a good person, treating others properly and raising good people, the sooner those types will get their comeuppance. But keep talking about him and giving him oxygen - thats exactly what he wants.
Typical response JV. He's a women beater, you advocating that?
I think Veitch is a dick too, but he's way off topic. Thanks.
woman beaters are cool
The difference is that he's a role model, and seems to have massive support amongst the rugby, racing, and beer crowd (despite the fact that he's proven that he's far from stoic).
As a public figure he should be held to higher standards to the rest of us because some people look up to him.
The offseason, huh?
So those two clowns are using Reid as an example to kids - and they think he left NZ to go to Switzerland at age 16. hmmm
They were actually talking about Wynton Rufer when they said that - so they got the country right but the age was wrong
I heard Winston - Wynton is a better example, but obviously if you are using a player who left the country more than 30 years ago as your only example then not much else has gone right.
Better examples would by Tyler and Marco.
So those two clowns are using Reid as an example to kids - and they think he left NZ to go to Switzerland at age 16. hmmm
They were actually talking about Wynton Rufer when they said that - so they got the country right but the age was wrong
He (Wynton) left New Zealand to go to Norwich City. Him and Shane had visa issues and ended up in Switzerland.
Point taken Smithy, apologies.
Yep pretty happy with my back yard JV.