ruari Cahill fleury done at the academy
Any idea why or where he is going
Island Bay United
Huawei Wellington United Phoenix Academy Football School of Excellence - WeeNix
Any idea why or where he is going
ruari Cahill fleury done at the academy
Any idea why or where he is going
Island Bay United
I guess it's the end of the year in Phoenix terms and they must review their Academy group at this stage?
ruari Cahill fleury done at the academy
Any idea why or where he is going
Island Bay United
I guess it's the end of the year in Phoenix terms and they must review their Academy group at this stage?
I think he left early
User NZ_Footballs_Conscience modified the Phoenix Wikipedia page to have Greenacre as WeeNix co-coach, no citation provided.
Any truth or just supposition?
Heard Jack-Henry Sinclair has left to take up a contract in South Africa.
Good on him but shame he has gone.
Heard Jack-Henry Sinclair has left to take up a contract in South Africa.
The twitter rumour is Stellenbosch who sit top of the SAFA 1st Div (2nd tier) after 6 games. What's the view on this move for young Jack at this stage of his career?
Heard Jack-Henry Sinclair has left to take up a contract in South Africa.
The twitter rumour is Stellenbosch who sit top of the SAFA 1st Div (2nd tier) after 6 games. What's the view on this move for young Jack at this stage of his career?
if he is getting paid then it is a good move
how old is he?
how old is he?
20 in february
Wait over for Wellington Phoenix hopeful Calvin Harris https://t.co/9lWm4OhO1g
— Phillip Rollo (@ByPhillipRollo) May 11, 2018
Wait over for Wellington Phoenix hopeful Calvin Harris https://t.co/9lWm4OhO1g
— Phillip Rollo (@ByPhillipRollo) May 11, 2018
What are people's thoughts on signing him, since he's young but not a Kiwi? Reckon it would be a good move bringing him in, can't be too far off citizenship anyway plus he must be pretty good to have the Nix stick by him for so long.
Wait over for Wellington Phoenix hopeful Calvin Harris https://t.co/9lWm4OhO1g
— Phillip Rollo (@ByPhillipRollo) May 11, 2018
What are people's thoughts on signing him, since he's young but not a Kiwi? Reckon it would be a good move bringing him in, can't be too far off citizenship anyway plus he must be pretty good to have the Nix stick by him for so long.
Four goals and an assist on his debut... sure the league may not be comparable.. but when you haven't played a competative game in 4 years, its not bad.
I don't know a thing about him... does anyone?
Just read the article.
I don't understand why he stuck it out (he was committed to school apparently) - for four years without being able to play a competitive match! That's real commitment right there.
I understand the rule in principle, but I believe it should only apply to professional outfits, not to amateur leagues!
I can't see the likes of Stop Out, Karori etc bringing in kids from underdeveloped countries to bolster their squads!
Just read the article.
I don't understand why he stuck it out (he was committed to school apparently) - for four years without being able to play a competitive match! That's real commitment right there.
I understand the rule in principle, but I believe it should only apply to professional outfits, not to amateur leagues!
I can't see the likes of Stop Out, Karori etc bringing in kids from underdeveloped countries to bolster their squads!
He's played NYL for the Nix and school football for Scot's and possibly age-group club football too.
Just read the article.
I don't understand why he stuck it out (he was committed to school apparently) - for four years without being able to play a competitive match! That's real commitment right there.
I understand the rule in principle, but I believe it should only apply to professional outfits, not to amateur leagues!
I can't see the likes of Stop Out, Karori etc bringing in kids from underdeveloped countries to bolster their squads!
He's played NYL for the Nix and school football for Scot's and possibly age-group club football too.
hasn't played NYL but was playing for the college
Just read the article.
I don't understand why he stuck it out (he was committed to school apparently) - for four years without being able to play a competitive match! That's real commitment right there.
I understand the rule in principle, but I believe it should only apply to professional outfits, not to amateur leagues!
I can't see the likes of Stop Out, Karori etc bringing in kids from underdeveloped countries to bolster their squads!
He's played NYL for the Nix and school football for Scot's and possibly age-group club football too.
hasn't played NYL but was playing for the college
Hmm, seems he hasn't. Must have listed him here in error.: https://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/news/phoenix-nam...
Has also played Hong Kong Soccer Sevens though!
Interesting. I still find it very strange - those are your golden years and I sure as heck would have wanted to play football as much as I physically could at that age. Very bizarre he chose to stay here with the limited opportunities for meaningful game time he had.
Anyway, given the Nix's current situation, that may well play in his hands. An import slot on minimum A-League salary..is that possible or are there rules preventing this?
Anyway, I am curious to see him in action as he sounds like a livewire.
for this guy his golden years are still to come, obviously had some good advice and concentrated on his schoolwork, which he'll need if he decides to go uni in the states. Although I think he's good enough to be given a pro contract now, he's one of the more exciting players I've seen for a while. I'm alot more excited by him than I was by Sapreet Singh!
Interesting. I still find it very strange - those are your golden years and I sure as heck would have wanted to play football as much as I physically could at that age. Very bizarre he chose to stay here with the limited opportunities for meaningful game time he had.
Anyway, given the Nix's current situation, that may well play in his hands. An import slot on minimum A-League salary..is that possible or are there rules preventing this?
Anyway, I am curious to see him in action as he sounds like a livewire.
for this guy his golden years are still to come, obviously had some good advice and concentrated on his schoolwork, which he'll need if he decides to go uni in the states. Although I think he's good enough to be given a pro contract now, he's one of the more exciting players I've seen for a while. I'm alot more excited by him than I was by Sapreet Singh!
That's high praise... I look forward to seeing what he can do.
Interesting. I still find it very strange - those are your golden years and I sure as heck would have wanted to play football as much as I physically could at that age. Very bizarre he chose to stay here with the limited opportunities for meaningful game time he had.
Anyway, given the Nix's current situation, that may well play in his hands. An import slot on minimum A-League salary..is that possible or are there rules preventing this?
Anyway, I am curious to see him in action as he sounds like a livewire.
Well, then the young man is certainly in with a chance.
If he's half as talented as some people say, Nix will look at him and the minimal price tag will only play in his favor.
Inspired by someone asking in the transfer thread where Ben Waine sits among WPFA prospects, given he's off to the Gold Coast with the senior team and in the mix for the FFA Cup,. I’ve whipped this up. Hope at least one person finds it useful. Warning: May not include everyone.
Wellington Phoenix Football Academy (an incomplete list)
1999 (Turning 19 this year - current NZ U-20 cycle)
Sam Philip (DF)
Soon off to college in the US, if he hasn’t left already. Didn’t make the cut for the NZ Oceania U-19 Championship squad. Sat on the A-League bench when All Whites were away in March.
2000 (Turning 18 this year - current NZ U-20 cycle)
Max Batchelor (FW), Calvin Harris (FW - England/Hong Kong), Zac Jones (GK), Liam Moore (DF), Ollie Valentine (DF), Oli Whyte (MF), Jake Williams (DF), Ronan Wynne (DF)
Harris is the top prospect here, but currently injured, which has denied him the chance to take part in Phoenix pre-season. Plenty of eyes will be on him when he’s fit, should he play for WeeNix in the national league. Liam Moore, Oli Whyte and Jake Williams were all WeeNix regulars last summer and should be again. Ronan Wynne, brother of Deklan, joined this winter. Keeper Zac Jones was chosen over Keegan Smith for the Oceania U-19 Championship. Whyte is also a member of that squad, while Moore and Williams were invited to camp in April but only on standby last week.
2001 (Turning 17 this year - current and next NZ U-20 cycle)
Zac Dean (GK), Willem Ebbinge (MF), Kurtis Mogg (MF - England?), Owen Smith (MF), Sam Sutton (MF), Noah Tipene-Clegg (DF), Ben Waine (FW), Josh Wentworth (MF - Australia)
Attacking midfielder Willem Ebbinge is the top prospect here - joined Philip on the A-League bench in March. Ben Waine has travelled to the Gold Coast with the first team ahead of the FFA Cup fixture on August 7. With Ebbinge would off to Tahiti for the Oceania U-19 Championship, Waine is the most experienced Kiwi attacking option in the academy, which probably explains that one, given the defender-heavy look of the senior squad at present. Players in this group began to play for WeeNix last summer and will be core members this coming season.
2002/2003 (Turning 16/15 this year - current NZ U-17 cycle)
Matt Braddock (DF), Blake Driehuis (FW), Henry Hamilton (FW), Adam Hillis (DF), Joseph Lee (FW), Jackson Manuel (MF), Kris Naicker (DF), Finn O’Connor (DF), Ben Old (MF), Alex Paulsen (GK), Oskar van Hattum (FW)
Blake Driehuis, Henry Hamilton, Adam Hillis, Joseph Lee, Jackson Manuel, Finn O’Connor, Ben Old, Alex Paulsen, and Oskar Van Hattum were all invited to July’s NZ U-17 camp in Auckland, with Matt Braddock and Kris Naicker previously attending April’s camp in Wellington. With academy head Paul Temple an assistant in that setup, it would seem a good indicator of who’s standing out - though I'm sure there are more players from these two years in the academy. Manuel became the first 2003-born national league player earlier this year, and expect him to be joined by some 2002-born players this coming season, with forwards Henry Hamilton and Oskar van Hattum likely contenders based on Central League game time.
Bonus: Given I've grouped the academy players by birth year, a look at how players born in the past seven years have fared at the Phoenix - all Kiwis, not just those from the club's academy.
1995
Were contracted: Joel Stevens
Trialing this season: Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi
1996
Still contracted: Oli Sail (until 2019)
Were contracted/on loan: Matt Ridenton, Alex Rufer, Monty Patterson
A-League Bench/FFA Cup: Andrew Blake, Tam Dimairo
Trialing this season: Alex Rufer, Andre de Jong
1997
FFA Cup: Tinashe Marowa
1998
Were contracted: James McGarry, Logan Rogerson
FFA Cup: Liam Wood
1999
Still contracted: Sarpreet Singh (2020), Keegan Smith (2020)
A-League Bench/FFA Cup: Jack-Henry Sinclair, Sam Philip, Luke Tongue
2000
Still contracted: Liberato Cacace (2020)
2001
A-League Bench: Willem Ebbinge
Sam Philip played for United on Saturday vs Olympic according to Comet so it would appear he has not left yet.
Sam Phillip played for United on Saturday vs Olympic according to Comet so it would appear he has not left yet.
I'd seen that, but Saturday was two days ago... ;)
Inspired by someone asking in the transfer thread where Ben Waine sits among WPFA prospects, given he's off to the Gold Coast with the senior team and in the mix for the FFA Cup,. I’ve whipped this up. Hope at least one person finds it useful. Warning: May not include everyone.
What a write up, thanks a lot for this!
[really interesting long in depth post]
Have you ever thought of getting into football journalism?
[really interesting long in depth post]
Have you ever thought of getting into football journalism?
It appeals.
For further reference, some of the 2000/2001-born players who have done notable things but who aren't at the WPFA. A number of these have played NL/NYL for the Phoenix through the Onehunga Sports/WPSS link, funnily enough.
2000
Senior professionals: Liberato Cacace (DF/MF)
Overseas: Leon van den Hoven (MF)
Ole Academy: Alex Clayton (DF), Elijah Just (MF/FW), Josh Rogerson (DF)
NZ U-20s 2018: Jorge Akers (FW), Max Mata (FW), Jordain Spain (DF), Charles Spragg (FW), Leon van den Hoven (MF)
NZ U-17s 2017: Ben Deeley (DF), Oli Duncan (MF), Matthew Jones (DF), Nicholas Milner (GK), Matt Palmer (FW), Kieran Richards (MF), Emlyn Wellsmore (DF)
National league 2017-18: Seth Clark (MF - Canterbury United), JJ Richards (FW - Canterbury United)
2001
NZ U-20s 2018: Matt Conroy (FW), Boyd Curry (DF), Kingsley Sinclair (MF)
NZ U-17s 2017: Jacob Clark (GK)
Other names to watch: Oscar Browne (FW)
Sam Philip played for United on Saturday vs Olympic according to Comet so it would appear he has not left yet.
Why do some have alternames in brackets?
Sam Philip played for United on Saturday vs Olympic according to Comet so it would appear he has not left yet.
Why do some have alternames in brackets?
System allows you to put in your preferred name (ie Oliver > Ollie, Alexander > Alex, Samuel > Sam), but footballers being footballers, that's been taken to mean middle name (in a couple of cases there, I assume) and in some cases, nickname.
Thanks, that makes sense. Just the Harvey and Maxwell threw me on that one.
And that Oskar prefers to be called Oskar!
Top @WgtnPhoenixAcad/@WgtnPhoenixFC forward prospect Calvin Harris is headed to the US College scene next year, joining the Wake Forest Demon Deacons: https://t.co/uOyqqyMONk
— Andrew Voerman (@andrewvoerman) September 13, 2018
Wellington Phoenix Soccer Schools U10 win the Sydney International Cup and receive an amazing haka from their goalies Dad. Pure respect. Awesome @WgtnPhoenixFC @newzealandfootball @Aucklandfootbal pic.twitter.com/u8JEK1FMtB
— Stephanie Jalfon (@StephJalfon) October 3, 2018
Interesting reading of where academy players are ending up
https://www.wellingtonphoenix.com/news/phoenix-aca...
2018 Academy Graduates
- Sam Philip - Scholarship at University of Albany, New York
- Calvin Harris - Scholarship at Wake Forrest University, North Carolina (Pending school results - Leaving Jan 2019)
- Liam Moore - Offered scholarship at Loyola University, Chicago (Leaving Jan 2019)
- Willem Ebbinge - Scholarship at Harvard University, Boston (Pending school results - Leaving Aug 2019)
- Owen Smith - Scholarship San Jose State University (Leading Aug 2019)
- Ollie Whyte - Youth contract with Rio Avenue in Primeira Liga
At A Glance
Past Football School of Excellence and Academy Graduates
- FSE students Tom Doyle and Louis Fenton with a combined 151 Hyundai A-League games.
- FSE students Hamish Watson and Justin Gulley who made 1st Team appearances now playing at Team Wellington.
- FSE student, James Musa now playing at Phoenix Rising in USA
- Andrew Blake, Joel Stevens and Ollie Whyte playing at Hibernian (SCO), Husvarna (SWE) and Rio Avenue (POR) respectively.
- Logan Rogerson and James McGarry playing in Europe at Jena (GER) and Willem II (Holland) respectively.
US Scholarships:
- Joe Bell - Univ of Virginia. Started in all 21 games as a freshman, made the ACC (Atlantic Coast Conference) All Freshman Team of the Year, made the ACC All Academic Team of the Year, Captained the NZ Under-20 in victory in the recent WC Qualifying
- Tam Dimairo - University of Charleston
- Ben Stroud - Missouri State
- Louis Evans - Davidson College
- Ben Mata - Missouri State
- Luke Johnson - University of North Carolina
- Sam Philip - University of Albany, New York.
Current U-17 & U-20 National Team:
Adam Hillis, Alex Paulsen, Ben Old, Finn O’Connor, Henry Hamilton, Jackson Manuel, Joseph Lee, Kris Naiker, Oskar van Hattum, Willem Ebbinge and Zac Jones.
Past Football School of Excellence and Academy Graduates
The FSE started after he left the club, not sure how he counts as a Nix Academy product tbh.
- FSE student, James Musa now playing at Phoenix Rising in USA
so not at the Phoenix then
so not at the Phoenix then
Musa is at Phoenix Rising ;)
WeeNix get Gianni Stensness and Taci Kumsuz. Both where part of Youth Socceroos with Dane Ingham and were part of CCM and WSW youth set ups.
https://twitter.com/ByPhillipRollo/status/10523751...
*https://us.soccerway.com/players/gianni-stensness/522840/
*https://us.soccerway.com/players/tacettin-kumsuz/522695/
Wellington United AFC and @WgtnPhoenixFC announce an update to their Joint Venture. Visit https://t.co/4wL1IsfUwH for more information
— Wellington United (@WgtnUnited) December 5, 2018