Huawei Wellington United Phoenix Academy Football School of Excellence - WeeNix

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Interesting. That might change a bit with Auckland’s reserves playing in the OFC Pro League. So as a young player now plenty of likely opportunities to play in a (2nd tier to ALM) pro league.


Edit - The real battle is going to be for talented players in the NZ U17 team that go to WC at that stage not signed to either of NZ’s 2 ALM clubs. Prior the Nix was the other pro option, and they would often sign a few post a U17 WC.  

They now have a competitor looking at that talent. Noting those U17 WCs are now going to be annual, so a new crop of young players will be showcased every 12 mths 
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Oi Oi Edgecumbe
7 months ago
AucklandPhoenix
To add to the above. 

How much does it actually cost an academy member each year to attend?

And how many academy members are there?

Nix academy camps are $305 per player which are run during the school holidays, nothing about the full time playing group though
https://wellingtonphoenixacademy.com/phoenixacademycamp/


Queenslander 3x a year.

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AucklandPhoenix
To add to the above. 

How much does it actually cost an academy member each year to attend?

And how many academy members are there?
Can understand people wanting some information about the Academy's but not so sure this is the type of information we can expect them to reveal. They are competing in a competitive market and not sure releasing that information for competitors to see is in their best interests.
Reg22 have forwarded your questions  and will advise if i get an answer. 

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7 months ago
ballane
AucklandPhoenix
To add to the above. 

How much does it actually cost an academy member each year to attend?

And how many academy members are there?
Can understand people wanting some information about the Academy's but not so sure this is the type of information we can expect them to reveal. They are competing in a competitive market and not sure releasing that information for competitors to see is in their best interests.
Reg22 have forwarded your questions  and will advise if i get an answer. 


wow, really? that's really cool of you ballane! thank you

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7 months ago
Well I would say if they have true competitors, then they would surely be all over this information already.

Don’t see why it would be a secret unless they are charging some players more than others.

Which surely they would not be doing.
ballane
AucklandPhoenix
To add to the above. 

How much does it actually cost an academy member each year to attend?

And how many academy members are there?
Can understand people wanting some information about the Academy's but not so sure this is the type of information we can expect them to reveal. They are competing in a competitive market and not sure releasing that information for competitors to see is in their best interests.
Reg22 have forwarded your questions  and will advise if i get an answer. 

Auckland will rise once more

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7 months ago
AucklandPhoenix
Well I would say if they have true competitors, then they would surely be all over this information already.

Don’t see why it would be a secret unless they are charging some players more than others.

Which surely they would not be doing.
ballane
AucklandPhoenix
To add to the above. 

How much does it actually cost an academy member each year to attend?

And how many academy members are there?
Can understand people wanting some information about the Academy's but not so sure this is the type of information we can expect them to reveal. They are competing in a competitive market and not sure releasing that information for competitors to see is in their best interests.
Reg22 have forwarded your questions  and will advise if i get an answer. 

Have it from a reliable source that it is north of $5k per year plus tournament fees....so around $7k before tax. If a kid gets to play for the Reserves (maybe 50% of those that start) then they no longer have to pay. Issue if course is that the majority are the supporting cast for the few that may kick on. The recent strategy of giving kids contracts who have not been at the academy for long and who were not remotely ready for A League Football does beg the question whether going through the entire pathway is worth it.....it seems if they rate you they will find you. Personally think this has been an own goal by management as the Wrexham game showed there is nothing (LBS being the possible exception) between the young pro's (05's and 06's) and the players in the Reserves and they would have been much better off waiting for all the players to finish the u20 cycle before awarding contracts...as they have generally done in the past!
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7 months ago · edited 7 months ago · History
Great info.

So roughly 7k. 

Does anyone know how many members would be paying that per season?

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AI tells me
the Wellington Phoenix Academy has a total of eight age-group teams: five men's teams (U-14, U-15, U-16, U-18, and U-20) and three women's teams (U-16, U-18, and U-20).

So maybe around 120-150 kids at the Academy all up?

Can completely understand the Phoenix not publishing what the annual fees are. 
A myriad of reasons why parents and the club may want to keep that in house.

But I imagine around age group football circles the approx annual fees, are an open secret, so parents can start to prepare themselves financially if they want to send little Johnny or Jane to Weenix.  

And yes you would expect there will be some families paying less. That's what scholarships are for.

The majority of kids ('supporting cast') yes won't progress to the first team, let alone a European club. But there are other pathways like a free US College education (sports scholarship), that are made easier to obtain as the Academy helps open doors. I guess families have to weigh all that up, with a long term lens. 

At the end of the day the Academy has been of huge benefit to the NZ football scene. How many of the current AWs squad have gone through Weenix? 
And a big debt is owed to Welnix for their sizeable investment in setting it up.
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7 months ago
AucklandPhoenix
Well I would say if they have true competitors, then they would surely be all over this information already.

Don’t see why it would be a secret unless they are charging some players more than others.

Which surely they would not be doing.
ballane
AucklandPhoenix
To add to the above. 

How much does it actually cost an academy member each year to attend?

And how many academy members are there?
Can understand people wanting some information about the Academy's but not so sure this is the type of information we can expect them to reveal. They are competing in a competitive market and not sure releasing that information for competitors to see is in their best interests.
Reg22 have forwarded your questions  and will advise if i get an answer. 
Agree it can be found out not sure there would be many businesses out there who would just openly divulge  the information  you are wanting to a public forum about their income stream and numbers attending.
I have no idea but wouldnt surprise me if there were different levels of fees depending on certain situations.

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7 months ago
Here you go reg22 hope that answers some questions this is what i got back.

"When do players stop paying?
Traditionally, Phoenix Academy players stop paying once they progress into one of our reserve sides, typically this means they have progressed into either one of the Men’s or Women’s Central League sides.

Scholarships for promising players:
Yes, we do provide scholarships, particularly for highly promising players who may be scouted from out of town. These are generally assessed on a family’s financial need.

No barriers to entry policy:
Similar to Olé, we have a strong commitment to ensuring that financial circumstances never prevent a talented player from attending our programme. We operate a “no barriers to entry” policy and will always find a way to support the right players. To help with this, we’ve established an Academy Development Fund, which is dedicated exclusively to creating opportunities for young people. Contributions can come from within the club and from the wider public."

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7 months ago
coochiee
AI tells me
the Wellington Phoenix Academy has a total of eight age-group teams: five men's teams (U-14, U-15, U-16, U-18, and U-20) and three women's teams (U-16, U-18, and U-20).

So maybe around 120-150 kids at the Academy all up?

Can completely understand the Phoenix not publishing what the annual fees are. 
A myriad of reasons why parents and the club may want to keep that in house.

But I imagine around age group football circles the approx annual fees, are an open secret, so parents can start to prepare themselves financially if they want to send little Johnny or Jane to Weenix.  

And yes you would expect there will be some families paying less. That's what scholarships are for.

The majority of kids ('supporting cast') yes won't progress to the first team, let alone a European club. But there are other pathways like a free US College education (sports scholarship), that are made easier to obtain as the Academy helps open doors. I guess families have to weigh all that up. 

At the end of the day the Academy has been of huge benefit to the NZ football scene. How many of the current AWs squad have gone through Weenix? 
And a big debt is owed to Welnix for their sizeable investment in setting it up.

Agree with a lot of this. Can guarantee however that the mere fact that you have been at the Academy will not get you a decent scholarship (big money and/or D1 College) to the US unless you have made a national age grade team. Very few full rides for men available but more for the women. Not surprising considering a full ride can be upwards of NZ$120,000 per year to some colleges. So not much change out of $400,000 for a 3-year deal. Potentially life changing if you can get them!
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7 months ago
Wow that is crazy money for a US College degree. You would hope the education and sports facilities are something special for that sort of dosh.

Ex Weenix & NZU20 midfielder Dan McKay sounds like, he will have some top class coaching at his US College.


Congratulations to 🇳🇿 U20 international @dan. mckay on completing his move and signing his scholarship at Utah Valley University. Dan will play under former US national team and MLS legend Kyle Beckerman as the college announced major upgrades to the team's stadium and facility. 17 Dec 2024
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Im hopeless at some of this tech stuff just tried to post a link about a story detailing a partneship the Nix have formed to help get players to the States on Scholarships. Im sure someone better than me can do it

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7 months ago
ballane
Here you go reg22 hope that answers some questions this is what i got back.

"When do players stop paying?
Traditionally, Phoenix Academy players stop paying once they progress into one of our reserve sides, typically this means they have progressed into either one of the Men’s or Women’s Central League sides.

Scholarships for promising players:
Yes, we do provide scholarships, particularly for highly promising players who may be scouted from out of town. These are generally assessed on a family’s financial need.

No barriers to entry policy:
Similar to Olé, we have a strong commitment to ensuring that financial circumstances never prevent a talented player from attending our programme. We operate a “no barriers to entry” policy and will always find a way to support the right players. To help with this, we’ve established an Academy Development Fund, which is dedicated exclusively to creating opportunities for young people. Contributions can come from within the club and from the wider public."

That's awesome Ballane, thank you. And great info, really good to hear.

360footballnews.com

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4 months ago
This was posted on the Nix reddit page. 
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BullionSimon B
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Top worth Niche Cache.
5 prospects each male and female.

I think Mrs Mils has had wraps on Jack Perniskie. Sounds an exciting prospect.
It's overdue that the Academy prodced a top young striker talent.

https://theniche-cache.com/football/2026/3/6/top-ten-prospects-in-the-wellington-phoenix-academy-for-2026

Jack Perniskie
Striker – Born 7 January 2008
Okay, here’s the guy you really need to know about. He did make three starts and a substitute appearance during the National League last year and scored a couple goals during Central League so he’s not a complete bolter. However, it’s his mahi at the U17 World Cup and in the younger academy teams where the scale of his potential becomes clear.

Whereas previous centre-forwards like Flowerdew and Supyk (even Ben Waine) had styles build around their speed and movement,
Perniskie’s power is his fundamental attribute. Really solid build, strong and assertive... but here’s the thing: his touch is also golden. That means he’s got an excellent hold-up game already and if he can get the goals flowing as he steps into the U20s more regularly then the Nix will have a very serious player on their hands. You can see a bit more of his overall game in this video (from their end of year U17s tour to Melbourne a few months ago) where he’s wearing the #65 jersey. Expect to see a whole lot more of Jack Perniskie for the Reserves this year.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1247027219653740/
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about 1 month ago
This Forbidden thing is a bit annoying. Trying to Edit above post.

The other 9 academy prospects listed by Niche Cache. None have yet debuted for the ALM or ALW teams.


Welly Nix Men’s Academy
Luke Flowerdew
Mac Munro
Dylan Gardiner
Hayden Thomas

Welly Nix Women’s Academy
Katie Pugh
Holly Robins
Maisy McDonald
Freya Des Fountain
Sienna Candy
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coochiee
Top worth Niche Cache.
5 prospects each male and female.

I think Mrs Mils has had wraps on Jack Perniskie. Sounds an exciting prospect.
It's overdue that the Academy prodced a top young striker talent.

https://theniche-cache.com/football/2026/3/6/top-ten-prospects-in-the-wellington-phoenix-academy-for-2026

Jack Perniskie
Striker – Born 7 January 2008
Okay, here’s the guy you really need to know about. He did make three starts and a substitute appearance during the National League last year and scored a couple goals during Central League so he’s not a complete bolter. However, it’s his mahi at the U17 World Cup and in the younger academy teams where the scale of his potential becomes clear.

Whereas previous centre-forwards like Flowerdew and Supyk (even Ben Waine) had styles build around their speed and movement,
Perniskie’s power is his fundamental attribute. Really solid build, strong and assertive... but here’s the thing: his touch is also golden. That means he’s got an excellent hold-up game already and if he can get the goals flowing as he steps into the U20s more regularly then the Nix will have a very serious player on their hands. You can see a bit more of his overall game in this video (from their end of year U17s tour to Melbourne a few months ago) where he’s wearing the #65 jersey. Expect to see a whole lot more of Jack Perniskie for the Reserves this year.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1247027219653740/

Probably won't see him turn out for us either, he's over in the UK at the moment. Haven't been able to track down where to exactly, but I'm working on it.

Also, Luke Flowerdew has left the WeeNix setup and signed for Auckland United. 

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YoungHeartHM
coochiee
Top worth Niche Cache.
5 prospects each male and female.

I think Mrs Mils has had wraps on Jack Perniskie. Sounds an exciting prospect.
It's overdue that the Academy prodced a top young striker talent.

https://theniche-cache.com/football/2026/3/6/top-ten-prospects-in-the-wellington-phoenix-academy-for-2026

Jack Perniskie
Striker – Born 7 January 2008
Okay, here’s the guy you really need to know about. He did make three starts and a substitute appearance during the National League last year and scored a couple goals during Central League so he’s not a complete bolter. However, it’s his mahi at the U17 World Cup and in the younger academy teams where the scale of his potential becomes clear.

Whereas previous centre-forwards like Flowerdew and Supyk (even Ben Waine) had styles build around their speed and movement,
Perniskie’s power is his fundamental attribute. Really solid build, strong and assertive... but here’s the thing: his touch is also golden. That means he’s got an excellent hold-up game already and if he can get the goals flowing as he steps into the U20s more regularly then the Nix will have a very serious player on their hands. You can see a bit more of his overall game in this video (from their end of year U17s tour to Melbourne a few months ago) where he’s wearing the #65 jersey. Expect to see a whole lot more of Jack Perniskie for the Reserves this year.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1247027219653740/

Probably won't see him turn out for us either, he's over in the UK at the moment. Haven't been able to track down where to exactly, but I'm working on it.

Also, Luke Flowerdew has left the WeeNix setup and signed for Auckland United. 

JP @ MK Dons apparently
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20 days ago
For those quick to criticise the Nix charter school, I thought this was an insightful read.
It might be in the lowly paid female game sphere where the charter school concept has the most merit.

https://www.friendsoffootballnz.com/2026/03/18/the-difficult-career-choices-confronting-young-women-footballers/

The difficult career choices confronting young women footballers................

A typical women’s A-League contract can be about $25,000 for a season lasting about six months.

That is less than the average annual wage. Most players need part-time work to fit around daily training and travel commitments, and suitable employment is not always easy to find.

A recent report into the women’s professional game was sharply critical of pay and conditions in the Ninja A-League.

It noted that players in sports such as Australian rules and cricket can earn about three times as much for a comparable workload.

Through my daughter, Natalie Olson, I have followed closely the transition many talented girls make from secondary school into professional football. Writing and commentating on women’s football and futsal has also kept me connected to that pathway.

To be on track for national selection or a professional contract, these players must be both talented and dedicated. Many are also high academic achievers. That combination can create a set of difficult decisions for them to make about their future.

Should a young player commit to university study in demanding fields such as law or medicine, which require years of full-time work and intense dedication?...................................

...............Another talented football and futsal player, Maxine Cooper, also faced a similar choice.

Cooper, who represented the Futsal Ferns, ultimately prioritised her studies. Now Dr Maxine Cooper, she is working towards a career as a cardiothoracic surgeon.

The Wellington Phoenix have attempted to address part of this challenge. Using the New Zealand Institute of Sport facilities in Lower Hutt, the club have developed a charter school programme for academy players.

The initiative mainly targets Year 11–13 students, with programmes designed to better accommodate the demands of elite sport.

Sola Freeman, one of the driving forces behind the project, says demand has been strong. The programme’s quota of about 100 students, across several sporting disciplines, is already close to full.

Freeman believes mainstream schools often struggle to accommodate young athletes who train early in the morning before attending classes.

While initiatives such as this provide valuable support at school level, they do not solve the dilemma facing many players once they leave school.

Several members of New Zealand’s current U-17 women’s team, who are preparing for a trip to Morocco, will soon face those decisions themselves. Professional opportunities may follow, but so will questions about education and career security.

It is a difficult choice for many young players: pursue the dream of professional football, or prioritise long-term stability.

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See that the highly promising Jack Perniskie is back in NZ. His UK youth trials come to nought?
Chance of a Nix scholarship contract now that Greenie looks like being the coach next season?

https://theniche-cache.com/football/2026/4/6/aotearoa-domestic-football-roundup-april-6


The Wellington Phoenix Reserves were postponed last week so their match against Petone on the Fraser Park turf was our first glimpse of them for the new year. Always plenty of evolution from one year to the next with the academy sides... for starters, Chris Greenacre’s busy coaching the A-League team so Joshua Neff was listed as being in charge here. And it was a strong team, mate. Nathan Walker’s inclusion was awesome after an injury-plagued twelve months and he wasn’t the only one with ALM experience: Eamonn McCarron, Xuan Loke, Gabriel Sloane-Rodrigues, Ryan Lee, and Anaru Cassidy were all in the eleven. Dan Nelson was the most prominent fella promoted since the National League – he went to the U17 World Cup last year and was picked on the left-wing for this match. Joe McIntyre also got a go off the bench here from that U17s group.

It took two minutes before Nathan Walker used his famed pace to dash straight through between the Petone CBs and finish past the keeper 1v1. Last time he scored a goal it was at the U20 World Cup in September. He’s played a couple of reserves games since then but not much, having a torrid time with injuries. Didn’t take long to remind everyone what he can do. This game took a huge lurch after twenty minutes when the Nix were denied what they felt were two clear fouls in quick succession so Cassidy committed one of his own and was booked... having already seen a prior yellow waved in his direction. Red card after only twenty mins. But then came another swing when Nelson got free on the overlap and was brought down in the box by the goalie as he tried to get round him. Walker took the spot kick. Walker missed the spot kick. Went for the panenka and chipped it over the crossbar. He scored a penalty at the U20 World Cup but he sure didn’t hit it like that.

Walker was subbed at HT having presumably reached his minutes limit – Jack Perniskie came on for him. The WeeNix had begun with a back three and some hybrid set-ups but were forced to get more orthodox after being reduced to ten, then eventually reverted in the second half to a flat 4-4-1 shape. They defended pretty well despite the disadvantage... but Petone got more threatening as the game went on and ultimately got outta there with a 1-1 draw after Harry Lamont equalised on 83’. Deservedly so, though the Nix will feel they had that one with even numbers and may have still had it if they’d converted that penalty. Nevertheless.
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Had Cassidy received a yellow earlier in the match, or was it a yellow for the tackle and a straight red for the words after? Tribe seems to say double yellow at 20' but the ref only showed the yellow once in that moment.

The two fouls in the leadup were objectively terrible tackles by Petone and the ref fucked it big time.

I liked the bits I saw from Perniskie. Played as a solo striker for 10 men and did a good job with his back to goal, playing a lot of one touch football. Promising signs in a tough circumstance for him, I'll definitely be keeping an eye on him.

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3 days ago
Sure looked like Cassidy got the red because of his verbals.
Both sides the beneficiaries of some shocking refereeing on some equally bad challenges by both teams.
Was an entertaining game and good to see Walker back.

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3 days ago
Just random thought and also because I'm not sure. Does a player who plays for reserves who also will occasionally play for the first team. If they get a red card in a reverse game does that stop them being able to then participate the next week in a A League game? 
Sorry get it is a strange thing to ask. Just curious to understand what happens
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brookem wrote:
Just random thought and also because I'm not sure. Does a player who plays for reserves who also will occasionally play for the first team. If they get a red card in a reverse game does that stop them being able to then participate the next week in a A League game? 
Sorry get it is a strange thing to ask. Just curious to understand what happens
No a ban in Central League won't affect the ability to be selected in the A-League (and vice versa), probably because theyre administered by different bodies in different confederations (unless the ban is imposed by the club like Conchie's was a while back).

Otherwise Cassidy getting sent for the reserves on Saturday would serve his ban for the ALM game on the Sunday. Instead he wont be able to play CL this weekend (and maybe longer depending on the reason for the red and what exactly was said), but Greenie mentioned him being available for the A-League in the MV postmatch.

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Nelfoos wrote:
 brookem wrote:
Just random thought and also because I'm not sure. Does a player who plays for reserves who also will occasionally play for the first team. If they get a red card in a reverse game does that stop them being able to then participate the next week in a A League game? 
Sorry get it is a strange thing to ask. Just curious to understand what happens
No a ban in Central League won't affect the ability to be selected in the A-League (and vice versa), probably because theyre administered by different bodies in different confederations (unless the ban is imposed by the club like Conchie's was a while back).

Otherwise Cassidy getting sent for the reserves on Saturday would serve his ban for the ALM game on the Sunday. Instead he wont be able to play CL this weekend (and maybe longer depending on the reason for the red and what exactly was said), but Greenie mentioned him being available for the A-League in the MV postmatch.
Ah okay thank you. Sorry I know a bit about football but not huge amount was sure it wouldn't mean anything due to as you say different bodies and different confederations. Just wanted to check. Sorry 
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brookem wrote:
 Nelfoos wrote:
 brookem wrote:
Just random thought and also because I'm not sure. Does a player who plays for reserves who also will occasionally play for the first team. If they get a red card in a reverse game does that stop them being able to then participate the next week in a A League game? 
Sorry get it is a strange thing to ask. Just curious to understand what happens
No a ban in Central League won't affect the ability to be selected in the A-League (and vice versa), probably because theyre administered by different bodies in different confederations (unless the ban is imposed by the club like Conchie's was a while back).

Otherwise Cassidy getting sent for the reserves on Saturday would serve his ban for the ALM game on the Sunday. Instead he wont be able to play CL this weekend (and maybe longer depending on the reason for the red and what exactly was said), but Greenie mentioned him being available for the A-League in the MV postmatch.
Ah okay thank you. Sorry I know a bit about football but not huge amount was sure it wouldn't mean anything due to as you say different bodies and different confederations. Just wanted to check. Sorry 
No need to apologise - better to ask than not know.

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3 days ago
Will Singh turn our for the reserve team to get some fitness minutes? 
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Procrastinixing wrote:
Will Singh turn our for the reserve team to get some fitness minutes? 
As a fully contracted (as opposed to scholarship contracted) pro over the age of 21, Singh is ineligible to play Central League.
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andrewvoerman wrote:
 Procrastinixing wrote:
Will Singh turn our for the reserve team to get some fitness minutes? 
As a fully contracted (as opposed to scholarship contracted) pro over the age of 21, Singh is ineligible to play Central League.
Is it only the national league? Or is that still the case since I'm sure it was in the nzfc?
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about 2 hours ago
Didn't David Ball play for the reserve team (and score a goal) last year or the year before? 
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