Phoenix vs Heart Wed 24th 7:00pm

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Dear I say it, I think Ricki is loosing the plot.

Yes ultimately it is up to you, and with any luck you will be held accountable. When you signed up to two coaching jobs you said you wouldn't let one influence the other (prob not in those words), so what is with the blind loyalty to the NZ players. Yes they did well at the world cup, but they aren't at the world cup anymore. Time to become the Phoenix coach again.

And tell Tim Brown to stop running around with his head up his ass trying to score goals and just have a kick around with his mates (our team).

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

goldienz wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

interesting...
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/24/three-man-defence-in-football-soccer/

The images in there were quite interesting to me, especially when you see the back three vs a wide front three. Just reminded me of the all whites, solid, but little attacking ability

I've always found ti interesting how the three man defence immediately falls into 'wingback' mode.

I remmebr watching a clip on a well known coach (can't recall name and trying to find clip) saying that the dutch (from memory) used to employ a great implementation of the 3-4-3 where instad of using wingbacks, the wider centre backs also had played as right or left fullbacks in the past, so would push wide when the attack came down that flank.

To cover those players pushing wide, the defensive mid would step into the middle of the defence to cover, usually good when that player has played in defence as well.

Wish i could find it again...

that'd be quite interesting... hmmm.

And it sounds a lot like something we can do with manny as a DM.
Last season, when one of lochhead or hearfield bombed forward, manny would drop back in between the two CBs often.

ahhh i miss Lochhead...

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

HELP wrote:

Dear I say it, I think Ricki is loosing the plot.

And tell Tim Brown to stop running around with his head up his ass trying to score goals and just have a kick around with his mates (our team).

Anyone with 1 post to their name who plays for North Wellington is not to be listened to.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Smithy wrote:

One of those "others" he needs to listen to is not Billy Harris.

or Miles

Founder

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Having only signed up to this thingy yesterday i don't think 1 post should be held against me (Despite having season ticket from the beginning). Last time I checked I wasn't playing for North Welly (otherwise would have been a valid reason to ignore me).

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

goldienz wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

Yup, as much as im sure people were bagging him for being a donkey at times, i know i for one would happily have him back in tomorrow night, even on a set of crutches.

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

playwithFire wrote:

goldienz wrote:

playwithFire wrote:

This year I don't think our DMs have done that with as much authority as Manny did last season.

I think we've often seen the situation when one fullback goes wide and is beaten, the CBs are too far away to provide adequate support and the mids have not stepped in/tracked well and we are in trouble.

BUT what I think we saw vs Newcastle in the weekend was Dura moving wider to support the FB that had been pulled wide. He cut out a lot of potentially dangerous play by doing that.

If Dura and the other CB are moving wider in support of the FB and that is a deliberate adjustment then I think that'd be a good thing. That shoudl give the DM/mids a bit more time to step in and help.

Christ, I'd settle for anything that works at the moment tho'

Go Nix

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

PAX 6625 as of this morning if of interest to anyone so does not seem too bad

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

theprof wrote:

I dunno I agree that it's not fair to lable people as not real fans etc, except for whoooo cos he deserves it, but really....a fan is someone who will live and die for their team, be there for every moment of their team's trials and celebrations....leaving early seems to me, to go against that understanding.

The reality is the Phoenix operate in a competitive entertainment market, yes the Phoenix is entertainment and the whole fan thing/soap opera angst is part of that, and apart from a few thousand die hards they have to produce a product that people will be willing to part with their money to watch. Then hopefully they develop an attachment to the club that goes beyond casual supporter to a die hard, but you need to win them over first.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Bullion wrote:

theprof wrote:

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

tonya wrote:

Bullion wrote:

theprof wrote:

Agree. It's not like an English club. Money is still really tight for many, and Phoenix games are just part of entertainment options. However RH, along with Terry S, Tony P and the other execs hasve created a real strong brand. The hard work's been done, which is why fans are fraustrated. RH will have every "expert" under the sun getting in his ear with advice. Just hope he has one mentor he does respect and listens to, because right now without a break for nearly 2 years, he can't see thru the mist of it all.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

tonya wrote:

RH will have every "expert" under the sun getting in his ear with advice. Just hope he has one mentor he does respect and listens to, because right now without a break for nearly 2 years, he can't see thru the mist of it all.ï¿½

Raul Blanco?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

U037 wrote:

tonya wrote:

Raul Blanco?

Avram Grant? (He did offer Ricky a job after the WC, so Grant must rate him as a coach.)

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

scribbler wrote:

U037 wrote:

tonya wrote:

Raul Blanco?

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Avram Grant? (He did offer Ricky a job after the WC, so Grant must rate him as a coach.)

Isn't he the West Ham coach... and isn't West Ham bottom of the table...

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

HELP wrote:

You are entitled to your opinion for sure.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

No Aloisi, Worm, Colosimo, Heffernan or Babalj in Heart squad.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

liverpoolfan1 wrote:

No Aloisi, Worm, Colosimo, Heffernan or Babalj in Heart squad.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

liverpoolfan1 wrote:

No Aloisi, Worm, Colosimo, Heffernan or Babalj in Heart squad.

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Well this is good for us, but Colosimo hasn't been playing recently anyway, and not sure Aloisi is much of a loss :P

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

liverpoolfan1 wrote:

No Aloisi, Worm, Colosimo, Heffernan or Babalj in Heart squad.

ï¿½

What is our squad?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wellington Phoenix squad: 1. Mark PASTON (gk), 2. Manny MUSCAT, 4. Nick WARD, 6. Tim BROWN, 7. Leo BERTOS, 8. Paul IFILL, 9. Chris GREENACRE, 11. DANIEL, 13. Troy HEARFIELD, 14. Mirjan PAVLOVIC, 15. Jade NORTH, 17. Vince LIA, 18. Ben SIGMUND, 19. Danny VUKOVIC (gk), 21. Marco ROJAS, 22. Andrew DURANTE (c), 23. Dylan MACALLISTER, 26. Simon ELLIOTT

*three to be omitted*

In: Tim BROWN (return from suspension), Marco ROJAS (promoted), Jade NORTH (return from international duty)

Out: Nil

Unavailable: Tony LOCHHEAD (groin ï¿½ 3 weeks), Oscar ROBERT CORNEJO (knee ï¿½ 3 weeks)

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

hmmm interesting.. I don't think Hearfield should start though.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Got a text from the stadium for work, and it was like if you haven't received a text back you won't be needed to work because of low numbers hahaha lets get a big crowd and screw over the food places :D

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liverpoolfan1 wrote:

*three to be omitted*

In: Tim BROWN (return from suspension), Marco ROJAS (promoted), Jade NORTH (return from international duty)

Out: Nil

Unavailable: Tony LOCHHEAD (groin ï¿½ 3 weeks), Oscar ROBERT CORNEJO (knee ï¿½ 3 weeks)

this squad should be able to turn things around...

....and where is Diego....has to be better than Lia ChopperHarris2010-11-23 22:22:40

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Paston

Hearfield Sigmund Durante North

Lia Muscat

Elliott

Greenacre

Pavlovic Ifill (Daniel or Bertos in that order)

Hearfiled to run at defenders down right

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

From Dompost - quote from Ricki

Asked whether his tactics needed reviewing, he said: "We're not a long-ball team. It may have looked that way but we certainly haven't been that for the last three years."

Has he told the players this!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

midweek situation tonite Ricki, so take that as a good excuse to rest some of the guys wihout any backlash.

Lets see some daniel, or 2 up front? Or even more time for ward?

Just lets see something dangerous!!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

ROJAS IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR STREET!

"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Today

Max 18ï¿½C
MIN 11ï¿½C

Fine. Northerly developing.

Get along to the game, support the boys, Terry and the Wellington Economy!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

can you confirm that kick off is 7pm?
I thought they changed the kick off time. but perhaps it was 730 and moved back to 7pm now?
cheers.

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

newzealandpower wrote:

can you confirm that kick off is 7pm?
I thought they changed the kick off time. but perhaps it was 730 and moved back to 7pm now?
cheers.

Definitely 7pm

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Can anyone tell me what traffic will be like at about 5pm, coming from the airport?

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

fire up!!!

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

NHpeter wrote:

Can anyone tell me what traffic will be like at about 5pm, coming from the airport?

Not too bad at 5. Might be a bit worse when you get into town, but nothing on Auckland.

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Yeah, and you're going against the traffic. Only ugly bits will be getting around the Basin and depending where you are going if you get caught up in traffic going north.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Cheers, Am heading to Ryos and then straight too downtown backpackers

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

You'll be right. Go to newRYOS and see Granville and the Hobbit.

I see tonights ref is the ref from TeeDubs game on Sunday.

Need Brownie to pull out the Fifii flop.

How's my driving? - Whine here

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

I predict that this will be the rebirth of the Nix's home form at the Fortress of Fire.

This time without the stain caused by the Ring of Dirt.

C'mon!

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

Wongky wrote:

Have no other choice when our midfield 3 are so ineffective. Elliott has to step up and show the form he did for the All Whites.

Too bad Lochy isn't bad for another 3 weeks..Manny in midfield instead of Lia would help, I think.

liverpoolfan1 wrote:

[QUOTE=newzealandpower]can you confirm that kick off is 7pm?
I thought they changed the kick off time. but perhaps it was 730 and moved back to 7pm now?
cheers.

Definitely 7pm

Godamn, horrible for us kiwis in Melbourne >< - forgot to tape it too because for some reason I still thought it was 5:30

Will prob miss a half

valeo2010-11-24 10:19:23

a.haak

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

double post

valeo2010-11-24 10:19:35

a.haak

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over 15 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

valeo wrote:

Wongky wrote:

Have no other choice when our midfield 3 are so ineffective. Elliott has to step up and show the form he did for the All Whites.

Realistically, if Nelsen, Reid and Smith were playing for the Nix I'm sure Elliot would be receiving a lot more ball out of the back line instead of having to watch it fly over his head. But I think you're right, he and the other mids need to be providing more options.

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